Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[Private Lugnutz]

Yeah thats why i was originally thinking black oxide because they looked similar and where i got a bit too agressive on the bottom with the abrasive it starts getting shiny just like my black oxide coated impact sockets.

So what do they look like now?! Did you pull them out of the Evaporust yet?!

 

[outofbounds]

Can anybody comment on this Model 3041 Proto Los Angeles Oddball O/E Wrench? 7/8" x 1-1/16" seems strange. Coupled with nice Chrysler script engraving leads me to beleive it is a special designed assembly line wrench. Welcoming any expertise on the thought.

 

[jgromada]

They are out of the evaporust now, that picture is from yesterday evening.

So i know you are thinking the evaporust didn't work, but when they started the sockets were just pure rust color. I think the evaporust may have reached the saturation point. It is almost completely black with a ton of particulate rust particles in it. May actually try and filter it to see. This is the first time I've used evaporust. Overall i am shocked at the amount of work it has done so far.

 

[drivesitfar]

Moreag: nice looking bucket of old Plvmb. i'm looking forward to seeing pics of those cleaned up when you have the time. were you having a bit of fun with your friend and trying not to grin too much while picking these up or did you wait until the drive home to show some emotion?

ALL: I picked up an old Proto 3/4 inch ratchet, but not made in Los Angeles so are we posting them here or is there an old Proto thread? I don't know how to age Proto other than I know the ones made in LA are the oldest ones. i'll take pics and post if anybody wants to see it and i probably didn't need another 3/4 inch ratchet, but really what has NEED got to do with it?

cheers

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Can anybody comment on this Model 3041 Proto Los Angeles Oddball O/E Wrench? 7/8" x 1-1/16" seems strange. Coupled with nice Chrysler script engraving leads me to beleive it is a special designed assembly line wrench. Welcoming any expertise on the thought.

Definitely NOT a catalog size. It goes from 3040 to 3045. That is a very cool engraving, but is it stamped/re-composeable? Or you're suggesting it was done by hand on a few wrenches, onesie twosie at a time, at the plant, by someone with a nice steady hand?

By the way, you see that pair of burn marks on the shank and the one on the flip side in between those two? That is classic. We find a lot of wrenches with those marks. It's where the holders on the electroplating rack, which double as electrodes (drawing the reaction from the solution onto the wrench...), were touching the wrench. Helpful for dating the wrench to no earlier than January 1948. The rack was patented in December 1947.

EDIT: Further reading in a thread on that subject here.

I think the evaporust may have reached the saturation point. It is almost completely black with a ton of particulate rust particles in it. May actually try and filter it to see. This is the first time I've used evaporust.

I always filter used solution into a second separate empty container and use that again, sometimes twice, before moving to a fresh amount of solution from the original container. When you use it more you will know immediately when it is no longer working. But yes, it sounds like yours is saturated. If you soak those in fresh Evaporust, it will strip the rust clean, trust me. But it may also start to fade that finish. So check it every 15 minutes or so. I am serious. If that's black oxide, it will eventually strip it too.

 

[outofbounds]

Thanks, Private! I appreciate that insight. I think your comments about the elctroplating rack lend itself to my hypothesis that these are Chrysler factory wrenches (I'll assume someone at the factory engraved them for security purposes) My other thought was that they were perhaps specified for mechanics employed at the Chrysler dealerships for certain anticipated maintenance. FYI - This wrench could be YOURS! LOL Listed on Ebay presently. Make an offer. Thanks again, Tom

 

[jgromada]

Thanks Private, i may just try and free the swivel using some torch, oil and some light force. Thanks for the advice on the evaporust. I will try filtering it.

 

[r_olson_06]

Thanks, Private! I appreciate that insight. I think your comments about the elctroplating rack lend itself to my hypothesis that these are Chrysler factory wrenches (I'll assume someone at the factory engraved them for security purposes) My other thought was that they were perhaps specified for mechanics employed at the Chrysler dealerships for certain anticipated maintenance. FYI - This wrench could be YOURS! LOL Listed on Ebay presently. Make an offer. Thanks again, Tom

Hey Tom,
That is actually a common size that would have been a carry over from the Plomb generation. I am not sure if it is odd when it comes to Proto generation stuff. I bet it was one of earlier Proto productions which would put it at early 50s.

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[outofbounds]

Curious why there would be "skip sizing on this"..... I would have assumed that a 7/8" would be paired with either a 15/16" or 1" , rather than 1-1/16" if in fact it was part of a set that they offered.

 

[r_olson_06]

Curious why there would be "skip sizing on this"..... I would have assumed that a 7/8" would be paired with either a 15/16" or 1" , rather than 1-1/16" if in fact it was part of a set that they offered.

It is very odd but they did it with a multitude of sizes. Here is a Plomb Size offering in standard DOEs. As you can see there is several points where the sizes are not considered standard pairings.


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[outofbounds]

You nailed it, R Olson. Crushed my dream of a unicorn in the process! On an unrelated note, I picked up a KipperTools rolling toolbox at a yard sale the other day for $50. Apparently these were issued in the military motor pools for Desert Storm et al, and they are chock full of SK. Complete set of SAE & Metric combination wrenches, 4 pcs line wrench set, and complete 3/8" drive socket array. All high polish. A nice find IMHO. If you see what looks like an army green rolling ice chest, it might be worth you taking a closer look! Regards, Tom

 

[r_olson_06]

You nailed it, R Olson. Crushed my dream of a unicorn in the process! On an unrelated note, I picked up a KipperTools rolling toolbox at a yard sale the other day for $50. Apparently these were issued in the military motor pools for Desert Storm et al, and they are chock full of SK. Complete set of SAE & Metric combination wrenches, 4 pcs line wrench set, and complete 3/8" drive socket array. All high polish. A nice find IMHO. If you see what looks like an army green rolling ice chest, it might be worth you taking a closer look! Regards, Tom

Hey sorry to be a dream come true but always post up your Plomb finds here. You never know what you may run across.

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[r_olson_06]

Some Plomb Uticas including 3 variants.

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[tym]

Not back oxide but I got some new old stock plomb with cosmoline on them

Nice! If you're planning to part with any of them, I do have some toolbox space...

 

[honza.vosalik]

I recently picked up a plomb 1150 and 1155 wrench.

 

[r_olson_06]

I recently picked up a plomb 1150 and 1155 wrench.

LAs or pebbles?

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[honza.vosalik]

LAs or pebbles?

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What's the difference?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

la stuff is earlier

 

[honza.vosalik]

la stuff is earlier

It's the earlier kind

 

[Oldtuleguy]

well dont tease us, how about some pics!

 

[r_olson_06]

What's the difference?

Los Angeles would be stamped on the wrench LA for short. LAs are 30s era.

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[Mooreag47]

Swap meet pick ups

 

[r_olson_06]

Nice swap pics. We are expecting our second snowfall of the season and swaps and auctions will be dormant until about April. Heading into the dark season. Have to sell off some picks fro. This year to raise the tool fund for next year.

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[Mooreag47]

Almost forgot about this one. Picked it up this morning as well

 

[DD T/A]

Anybody have any info or comments?\
Gotta be Plomb...

 

[bmwrd0]

Well, it's not Plomb, it's Paschall!

But they made some hammers for Plomb.

 

[r_olson_06]

Anybody have any info or comments?\
Gotta be Plomb...

Also a very sought after hammer series. Nice find. Appears to be orginal handle.

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[honza.vosalik]

Here you go

 

[DD T/A]

Thank you guys, appreciate the info.

I have another question:
Anyone know about these "P-49" drivers? Again.... gotta be Plomb.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well, it's not Plomb, it's Paschall!

But they made some hammers for Plomb.

Paschal was plombs hammer branding. Part of the original law suit was plomb agreeing not to make hammers with the plomb name on them as plumb was making ball peins then. I can’t remember why they made body hammers marked plomb but I think that may have fed into the next go around in the 40’s. At any rate, fantastic find! I have yet to find one in the wild


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[r_olson_06]

Thank you guys, appreciate the info.

I have another question:
Anyone know about these "P-49" drivers? Again.... gotta be Plomb.

I have one as well. I think these are Penens or Fleet as they follow the same part number scheme. It could also be a contact production. I have several 1/2" drive tools that start with an R-**.

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[Oldtuleguy]

Thank you guys, appreciate the info.

I have another question:
Anyone know about these "P-49" drivers? Again.... gotta be Plomb.

Penens corporation

 

[d42jeep]

Paschal was plombs hammer branding. Part of the original law suit was plomb agreeing not to make hammers with the plomb name on them as plumb was making ball peins then. I can’t remember why they made body hammers marked plomb but I think that may have fed into the next go around in the 40’s. At any rate, fantastic find! I have yet to find one in the wild


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I think the agreement was that they wouldn’t make hammers in direct competition with Plumb, which were ball peins and claw hammers. I don’t think that Plumb was making body work hammers. I imagine that Paschal branded hammers would be the same style as the Plumb offerings. I’d like to find one too!
-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

This one is in a fleet set

 

[DD T/A]

A lot of questions answered tonight, fellas, thanks for the support.

 

[Smokeshow69]

A lot of questions answered tonight, fellas, thanks for the support.

Some call it support, others call it being an enabler [emoji38]


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[Smokeshow69]

Penens corporation

Any other pictures of this set? I think it is top notch, especially since you don’t see many!


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[Oldtuleguy]

Few more shots. Sockets follow same numbering scheme.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Some call it support, others call it being an enabler [emoji38]


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Yup

 

[Smokeshow69]

Few more shots. Sockets follow same numbering scheme.

What is that set sitting on sir? It looks like a very nice refinished tool mobile?


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