Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

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That’s some of the best intermission music I’ve never seen!

 

[Smokeshow69]

.......anyway, while waiting for someone else to post here's some intermission music....

Love that 1st tray pictured! Either style is hard to come by!


Looking to buy a craftsman heritage era 10 drawer top chest

 

[MR.X]

That’s some of the best intermission music I’ve never seen!

Love that 1st tray pictured! Either style is hard to come by!

Thanks! For that 1st one I was just the middle man and shuffled that off to a Diesel mechanic friend near Sacramento who has an incredible collection. The other one is mine and I have a more recent style somewhere as well.

 

[r_olson_06]

Thanks! For that 1st one I was just the middle man and shuffled that off to a Diesel mechanic friend near Sacramento who has an incredible collection. The other one is mine and I have a more recent style somewhere as well.

Very nice caddies.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[Provincial]

Hi Jock, You're the aircraft guy and we've talked a little bit about the Ranger tools before, from what I think I understand, the Fairchild PT 19/26 trainer was second only to the Boeing Stearman PT 13/17/18 as far as WW2 primary trainers built and that one of the Fairchild's main features was that being a monoplane it gave cadets a closer approximation of combat aircraft as opposed to the biplane trainers. I read that the Tuskegee Airman for example trained on both.

The PT 19/26 was a distant second to the Stearman in numbers, as the Stearman production approached 11,000. The most popular engine for the Stearman was the Continental R-670, which was also used (with modifications) in light tanks and amphibious tracked vehicles (LVT). Instead of several thousand Ranger L-440's, there were tens of thousands of R-670's built. One would expect that the number of dedicated tools would be proportional.

While the PT 19 looked pretty sleek, it wasn't much faster than the Stearman and fairly sluggish on the controls. It did have better visibility. Primary trainers were supposed to be somewhat slow and docile compared to more advanced models. The idea was that the students progressed to faster and more agile airplanes as they graduated to the next step. The exception to this was the PT-22, which was developed from the pre-war Ryan Sport Trainer, which was used extensively for aerobatic training and exhibitions. It was a very agile aircraft, and anything but docile! My father spent the war as a flight instructor, mostly in PT-22's. It was a pleasure to fly, but killed a much higher percentage of students!

PT- primary trainers. Single engine, low performance, fixed landing gear, fixed-pitch propeller. 160-225 hp.

BT- basic trainers. Single engine, larger/heavier, fixed landing gear, controllable propeller, Instrument flight training. 440-450 hp.

AT- advanced trainers. Two branches, one for fighter pilots using single engined aircraft, and another for bomber/transport pilots with twin engined aircraft. Retractable landing gear, constant-speed controllable propellers. Single engine 600 hp. Twin engine 240-450 hp. each engine.

Further training was mostly in the type of aircraft for wartime assignment.

 

[MR.X]

No question that the Continental R-670 was a MUCH more produced engine ( it was even used to power Fairchild's PT-23 when Ranger couldn't keep up with demand). And no question that one would expect the number of tools to be proportional. I have no dog in the fight, and everywhere I look I get different numbers, but as far as primary MILITARY trainers go, the numbers of Continental powered PT-17's (and Navy N2S-3's) vs. the Ranger 440 powered trainers looks to be much closer...like 8428 vs 7000 ish. So again, not questioning your point about proportional numbers of tools and resulting scarcity of Ranger tools or disparity of total engines built just making the subtle distinction between those things and the apparently much smaller gap in WW2 era primary trainers. Interesting in terms of tool scarcity discussions is that Packard apparently built 55,523 V-1650 Merlin's. Anyway, do you run into many MARKED Continental engine tools like that Blue Point from the thread we were both on last week?

 

[MR.X]

For your "shelter in place" viewing......The 41-W isn't Plomb, I just got it the same day as the other stuff so it made it into the photo.

 

[RubiconJK]

On this topic of Ranger A.T. and other A.T. tools here are a few other postings from a separate threads as additional reference.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6720185&postcount=1
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6720766&postcount=3
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7301323&postcount=1025
While we do have the list of known Plomb made Ranger A.T. marked tools shown on post #6315, I've not seen a complete inventory of all Ranger A.T. tools from all/any manufacturers.

 

[r_olson_06]

For your "shelter in place" viewing......The 41-W isn't Plomb, I just got it the same day as the other stuff so it made it into the photo.

Nice Kinner hiding in the background. What is that 25/32" that seems to have the old style part number but a newer date code?

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[MR.X]

On this topic of Ranger A.T. and other A.T. tools here are a few other postings from a separate threads as additional reference.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6720185&postcount=1
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6720766&postcount=3
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7301323&postcount=1025
While we do have the list of known Plomb made Ranger A.T. marked tools shown on post #6315, I've not seen a complete inventory of all Ranger A.T. tools from all/any manufacturers.

Hi. Lots has been written about those Merlin kits not just on the GJ but the Warbird Exchange and the G503 sites for example. What I found interesting from having examples of the tools pass thru my hands is how some of the manufacturer's offerings evolved from their initial contract fills to their later probably more use specific offerings.

 

[MR.X]

Nice Kinner hiding in the background. What is that 25/32" that seems to have the old style part number but a newer date code?

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

Hi. Thanks. That 25/32 says "GRAYSON" on it. Here's a pic of the working end. A friend of mine made the observation that the opening looked like it was for those rectangular gas shut off valves ( though they'd have to be 3/4" ones for this tool to make sense). Grayson Controls was in Long Beach and pretty big during this time frame so.....best I got.

 

[r_olson_06]

Hi. Thanks. That 25/32 says "GRAYSON" on it. Here's a pic of the working end. A friend of mine made the observation that the opening looked like it was for those rectangular gas shut off valves ( though they'd have to be 3/4" ones for this tool to make sense). Grayson Controls was in Long Beach and pretty big during this time frame so.....best I got.

Certainly a unique piece. Thanks for sharing.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[MR.X]

1 post thread hijack...ref. my comment on Merlin contract AT tool evolution, here's the only pics i can find on my computer. Same maker, (Blue Point supplied 8011's too but these are both Bonney) same Whitworth size, same AT#....The thicker one is earlier.

 

[MR.X]

Certainly a unique piece. Thanks for sharing.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[c1504]

Some sockets I just picked up including a 5438 LA and a wf-53.



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[Oldtuleguy]

Nice complete set

 

[r_olson_06]

Some sockets I just picked up including a 5438 LA and a wf-53.



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Thanks for sharing.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[MR.X]

I know I've shown just the odd ( Williams made?) P&C wrenches from this score before but this is a kind of interesting group shot from an estate sale where the disinterested dude manning the garage was like....."Bro, just about everything in those drawers is a dollar each".

 

[Skooch]

"Bro, just about everything in those drawers is a dollar each".

That's my kind of estate sale!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Some cool stuff in there

 

[Skooch]

Found a couple Plomb whitworth wrenches, and one unmarked with all the signs of Plomb.

 

[MR.X]

That's my kind of estate sale!

Some cool stuff in there

 

[outofbounds]

Hi Roy, we better hope their aren't too many fans.....their definitely aren't many to go around.... unless there are some boxed up in a warehouse somewhere.

I suppose you have to ask yourself, do you, or do you not, want that warehouse to be found??

 

[MR.X]

I suppose you have to ask yourself, do you, or do you not, want that warehouse to be found??

To steal a line from Mitch in Dazed and Confused...."How do you know I haven't already?"

 

[Catfishdan]

I know I've shown just the odd ( Williams made?) P&C wrenches from this score before but this is a kind of interesting group shot from an estate sale where the disinterested dude manning the garage was like....."Bro, just about everything in those drawers is a dollar each".

Dang. With those pliers, the stubby spinner and the name plate I’d say you scored big time! Nicely done.

 

[Catfishdan]

Here’s a few things I picked up online recently. I overpaid for the 1242, but I “needed” it pretty bad. The speeder is 1/4” drive.

 

[Catfishdan]

And then there was one! Only missing the 1244 now. Once I find it I’ll make a proper board for them. I even have the decal already.

 

[MR.X]

Dang. With those pliers, the stubby spinner and the name plate I’d say you scored big time! Nicely done.

Hi. Thanks. That Plomb name plate thing was literally lying in the top drawer of a Plomb tool mobile along with some of this other stuff....That's the one thing I figured home boy would catch and say "nahhh that goes with box" but nope, $1.00. The toolmobile was one of like 3 things that had a price tag....a really big price tag.

 

[MR.X]

Here’s a few things I picked up online recently. I overpaid for the 1242, but I “needed” it pretty bad. The speeder is 1/4” drive.

Good work!

"Overpaid"...that cracks me up...I've got this bad habit of every time I get a real good deal I use it to rationalize overpaying for something else.

 

[r_olson_06]

Added 3 to the wall and 1 dupe. A Plomb Linesman that an eBay seller pulled out of a lot and sold individually. I was excited for that one to be added to the pliers board
Also added 2 low bands 3/4" drive sockets.

I also took advantage on the nice weather (as we had ice/snow last week) to organize some of my Plomb dupes combination wrenches, 1/2" deeps, and 3/4" drives.

And then there was one! Only missing the 1244 now. Once I find it I’ll make a proper board for them. I even have the decal already.

Looking good! Closing in on the finish line. My last wrench was the 1246 to finish the set and now I found out that there is a 1248 in existence (not pebble). Hope you finish it soon.

Hi. Thanks. That Plomb name plate thing was literally lying in the top drawer of a Plomb tool mobile along with some of this other stuff....That's the one thing I figured home boy would catch and say "nahhh that goes with box" but nope, $1.00. The toolmobile was one of like 3 things that had a price tag....a really big price tag.

That is a super flat. I would have gotten cold sweats just looking at it.

Found a couple Plomb whitworth wrenches, and one unmarked with all the signs of Plomb.

Very nice Whits. Pretty hard to find state side.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[d42jeep]

I have a tool collecting counterpart in Wales in the U.K. We collect so many of the same tools that it’s unreal. Here are a couple of his Ranger marked Plomb wrenches and his Whitworth wrenches.
-Don

 

[r_olson_06]

I have a tool collecting counterpart in Wales in the U.K. We collect so many of the same tools that it’s unreal. Here are a couple of his Ranger marked Plomb wrenches and his Whitworth wrenches.
-Don

Very nice. That top one I didn't have on my list. Let me know if he has a running list of Rangers as I would love to add it to my known list.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[shanny19]

Local auto parts store gave Proto a go, as part of a good/better/best strategy. Lasted maybe a year, nobody wanted to pay for the best.
Now I have to find some wall space.

 

[MR.X]

...when the oldtimer who owns the hardware store lets you check out the back room.

 

[r_olson_06]

...when the oldtimer who owns the hardware store lets you check out the back room.

Please tell me you have those Z series now or one of your buddies does.

Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[tin medic]

I'm ready for a road trip, just tell me where I need to go.

 

[Provincial]

Mr. X, did your heart rate go up when you looked in there?

 

[MR.X]

Please tell me you have those Z series now or one of your buddies does.
Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

Yep. pretty sure I grabbed all the serviceable ones.

I'm ready for a road trip, just tell me where I need to go.

So this was Workingman's Headquarters on Mission St. in SF. OLD school. Shuttered now. RIP Joe Anmuth.

Mr. X, did your heart rate go up when you looked in there?

It's that feeling like... I need to appreciate this cause there may not be a next time. I literally looked in every box.

 

[r_olson_06]

Yep. pretty sure I grabbed all the serviceable ones.

So this was Workingman's Headquarters on Mission St. in SF. OLD school. Shuttered now. RIP Joe Anmuth.

It's that feeling like... I need to appreciate this cause there may not be a next time. I literally looked in every box.

Well done sir. I have never seen any Z series in person before. I think I have only seen a single socket on eBay on the last 3 years. I have a few Y series and those are rare as well but no where near like the Z series.


Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

 

[MR.X]

Well done sir. I have never seen any Z series in person before. I think I have only seen a single socket on eBay on the last 3 years. I have a few Y series and those are rare as well but no where near like the Z series.


Looking for a Plomb 3061 Pebble Open End.

Hi. Thanks. It was an excellent score, (when I laid out my haul in my cousin's driveway about 5 blocks away I could barely fit everything into the picture) but I'm not sure those sockets pictured are Z's....those Z shanks are huge.