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I will get some pictures up later, but I just inventoried everything, and all of the sockets are either Plomb - 7/8" to 2-1/2" (most of them), Proto La, one P&C, and one regular Proto. There are two breaker bars, one pebble and one LA, an eight-inch extension, and one 1" drive socket (2-3/8"), which is not the biggest socket! What is interesting is it's a mostly matching black oxide set. Never seen that before. Now I need a black oxide ratchet...

Oh, and it is around one hundred pounds of tools. I had to partially unload it to get it in and out of my truck.

OK, here is the moment you all have been waiting for! Drive tools:

You can really see the black oxide on the one breaker bar and T-handle.

Sockets:

Plomb, mostly black oxide.


Proto LA, one of which has a bolthead stuck on one end and a T-handle head on the other.


Misc. extra Plomb, Proto, and P&C (the one with a stepped base) and the 1" Plomb is on the right.

The box seems to be an old military box of some sort, not sure what the markings denote, but there are some very faded extra markings below and to the right of the lock, which I need to cut off.


Obviously, I still need to clean everything, but that is half the fun. So, I now have extra 5-line sockets and will be putting them up for sale, here first to let the Plomb fanatics have first shot at them. It might be a few days to figure out which ones though.
 
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Need some help with what I believe to be a Plomb 1/2" drive ratchet. Found thsi guy at a yard sale a couple summers ago. Only markings that remain on it are the "Made in U.S.A." on the back side of the handle. The other side of the handle is blank but the area in the center is smoothed slightly (almost like the raised Plomb name and plumb bobs were ground off).

I found a very similar rachet on eBay with the handle markings intact and an "N-38" marking stamped into one of the face plates.

Does anybody here know the history on these ratchets? I haven't been able to find them in any of the Plomb catalogs, but that doesn't mean much. Were they wartime production? They look very similar to the 9/32" drive WF-8 ratchets, the 3/8" WF-21 rachets, or the 1/2" drive WF-38 ratchets.

Any help on this guy would be greatly appreciated!
 

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I will get some pictures up later, but I just inventoried everything, and all of the sockets are either Plomb - 7/8" to 2-1/2" (most of them), Proto La, one P&C, and one regular Proto. There are two breaker bars, one pebble and one LA, an eight-inch extension, and one 1" drive socket (2-3/8"), which is not the biggest socket! What is interesting is it's a mostly matching black oxide set. Never seen that before. Now I need a black oxide ratchet...



Oh, and it is around one hundred pounds of tools. I had to partially unload it to get it in and out of my truck.



OK, here is the moment you all have been waiting for! Drive tools:



You can really see the black oxide on the one breaker bar and T-handle.



Sockets:



Plomb, mostly black oxide.





Proto LA, one of which has a bolthead stuck on one end and a T-handle head on the other.





Misc. extra Plomb, Proto, and P&C (the one with a stepped base) and the 1" Plomb is on the right.



The box seems to be an old military box of some sort, not sure what the markings denote, but there are some very faded extra markings below and to the right of the lock, which I need to cut off.





Obviously, I still need to clean everything, but that is half the fun. So, I now have extra 5-line sockets and will be putting them up for sale, here first to let the Plomb fanatics have first shot at them. It might be a few days to figure out which ones though.



What a great haul! Plus you posted it in front of that nice Proto la 9990 that I regret passing on! Nicely done!


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The box seems to be an old military box of some sort, not sure what the markings denote, but there are some very faded extra markings below and to the right of the lock, which I need to cut off.
Can you transcribe the markings to the left? Hard to read. And does that say "ARMATURE" on the right?

Need some help with what I believe to be a Plomb 1/2" drive ratchet. Found thsi guy at a yard sale a couple summers ago. Only markings that remain on it are the "Made in U.S.A." on the back side of the handle. The other side of the handle is blank but the area in the center is smoothed slightly (almost like the raised Plomb name and plumb bobs were ground off).

I found a very similar rachet on eBay with the handle markings intact and an "N-38" marking stamped into one of the face plates.

Does anybody here know the history on these ratchets?
The consensus on the blanks seems to be third party contracts, industrial, etc, during and after the war.

As for the N-38, I would like to see some photos of that. P&C produced a whole line of N- series tools that was obviously modeled on the WF- line. Many of the N- series are the same as the WF- series, with the only difference being the prefix. But there were more end wrenches, and fewer drive tools. I have theorized Navy, since the Navy had contracts assigned specifically to P&C as the OEM, as opposed to the contracts they had assigned to Plomb. Your ratchet could be part of that line.
 

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Lugz:

That N-38 is the last three images attached to my post and that same exact piece is currently running on EBay (not my listing). Search “Plomb N-38”.

The ratchet that I found lacks the N-38 marking on the face plate. Mine ratchet is the first four images attached to my post.
 

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Lugz; N16-A-5615
QTY - 1 - EA. And to the right, it does say ARMATURE

Here is a pic of the inside of the box, dunno if that helps.
Well, 16-A-5615 looks suspiciously like a Federal Stock Number. As you may have picked up around here, wartime FSN's were phonetic. You've probably seen a bunch of references to FSN's that looked like 41-W-xxxx here. Class 41 was for all Hand Tools. Wrenches would be under W. And then an item's unique suffix would follow. 41-B-1840 is a box. 41-H-1505 was a ratchet, because ratchets are handles. Class 16 was for "Radio and Sound Signal Apparatus and accessories, outfits, and parts", and it included armatures, specifically or Radios, Dynamotors. (The 17 and 86 you see in the thumbnail refer to two different classes, for Electrical apparatus and Aircraft Engine Accessories, respectively, which also had armatures.) That N before the 16 looks suspiciously like a Navy FSN, because they liked to distinguish their stuff with prefixes. My only caution is that it's an awfully big box for one (1) armature. Could be a whole outfit for repairing armatures. Unless it was a bigass armature .
 

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Junk store find from today: Plomb LA 1455 body and fender dolly
 

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I prefer a fine grain soft foam sanding block for something like that, SD. It conforms to the surface, scrapes the rust, and blends with the patina. Followed by more WD40 and a rag. But everyone has different approaches.

Nice find!
 
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I prefer a fine grain soft foam sanding block for something like that, SD. It conforms to the surface, scrapes the rust, and blends with the patina. Followed by more WD40 and a rag. But everyone has different approaches.

Nice find!

Hit it with a brass brush and some wd40 and that will even it out by alot


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Thank you for the advice.

With the "LA" on there, don't you think this thing is probably mid 1930s or so?
 

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I prefer a fine grain soft foam sanding block for something like that, SD. It conforms to the surface, scrapes the rust, and blends with the patina. Followed by more WD40 and a rag. But everyone has different approaches.

Nice find!



Lugz are you talking drywall sanding blocks? This idea intrigues me


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I'm ashamed to admit I don't know what their intended purpose is. They are very common. Usually in the paint section with all the steel brushes and green scratch pads and steel wool etc. Maroon colored. It is literally a soft block of foam the size of an extra fat deck of cards with some kind of mild abrasive applied to it. I've been using them for a few years now. They even make one with a sharp angle edge, so you can jab it into the corners of toolboxes and such. I still use a stiff steel or brass brush to loosen up stubborn spots. But the bristles are dozens of points, not a flat surface. I like the large flat foam surface for wrench shanks and anything with a lot of surface space. And the way it conforms itself to everything simultaeously with pressure.
 

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I'm ashamed to admit I don't know what their intended purpose is. They are very common. Usually in the paint section with all the steel brushes and green scratch pads and steel wool etc. Maroon colored. It is literally a soft block of foam the size of an extra fat deck of cards with some kind of mild abrasive applied to it. I've been using them for a few years now. They even make one with a sharp angle edge, so you can jab it into the corners of toolboxes and such. I still use a stiff steel or brass brush to loosen up stubborn spots. But the bristles are dozens of points, not a flat surface. I like the large flat foam surface for wrench shanks and anything with a lot of surface space. And the way it conforms itself to everything simultaeously with pressure.



Yup, drywall sanding blocks. Good call on those. I will have to pick some up


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I owe a thank you to outofbounds for posting the Walla Walla Plomb sale link, and for Smokeshow69 for emphasizing it.

This is off Plomb subject, but came from it.

I clicked on the link. Walla Walla: within driving distance, but not worth it for a Plomb box with a bit of misc. But, while I'm on craigslist, check there to see if anything else in Walla Walla to sweeten the deal. I click on tools, and first up, just posted is an ad for 2 lathes, 2 mills and tooling for $1500. Telephone #, so I call immediately. Talk for a bit, this is the real deal, retired machinist, needs shop cleaned out NOW for immediate house sale offer. Will give me $300 off if I can come get it immediately. So, I hook up car hauler and 8 hour drive today, plus 2 hours loading and rigging. Nice Logan lathe with quick change gearbox, decent taiwan mill with new set of R8's, screw cutting small craftsman lathe with gears and tooling, and a bridgeport for parts (part of it). Here's the trigger photo from the Plomb ad, and a picture of the tooling that came with the lot. No pictures of the machines, still on trailer in the dark.

It was too late coming home to swing through Walla Walla and pick up the Plomb, so it's still at large.

Still off topic, but posted up thread so thought I would post the rest of the story.

I sold the small Craftsman lathe for $650. Sold the Bridgeport head today for $400, so I'm into the Logan 10" lathe with QC and the Taiwan Mill plus all the tooling for both a total of $150. Still have some extra tooling to sell, and an 11" Logan turret tailstock and turret lathe double cross slide to sell. I'd expect I'll be about $250 ahead when it's all said and done, and keep a free mill, lathe, and tooling. Thanks again to the linking of a Plomb toolbox near me in this thread!
 

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As some of you probably know, my attention (I won't say "focus") the last few years has been on making the Lugzsonian more, er, presentable. The problem is that my collection is all over the place and mainly out of sight. Under the workbenches, in a 41-C-15 WWII cabinet, in a small steel cabinet, or in a freestanding taller metal cabinet. Sets, orphans, and everything else. It's hard to remember what I have, or where it is, let alone just sit and admire it from time to time, which is important. I don't know about you guys, but you collect, collect, collect, clean, clean, clean, catalog, catalog, catalog, take a few photos for GJ, and put it away somewhere, sometimes the money gets tight, and you start to wonder what you're doing it for if you can't sit back, relax, and smell the Fluid Film on it every once in awhile.

As you guys know, I've been buying some furniture to help with that. Some barristers, that old barbershop display case, and a wooden tools chest out of Wright Field. I am still arranging those, and I have one corner to take care of (badly in need of a bigger set of barristers or something like that), but in keeping with my theme of thinking of my space as a combination curator's office, shop, and museum crammed into one, I've also put up some steel library shelves in the middle, arranged in an L.

I have more plans for those, but if only as a test pilot, and to make myself feel like I am making a little progress, here is a sneak peek at the Plomb Family Corner, outside (Pics 1 & 2) and in (Pic 3).
 

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As some of you probably know, my attention (I won't say "focus") the last few years has been on making the Lugzsonian more, er, presentable. The problem is that my collection is all over the place and mainly out of sight. Under the workbenches, in a 41-C-15 WWII cabinet, in a small steel cabinet, or in a freestanding taller metal cabinet. Sets, orphans, and everything else. It's hard to remember what I have, or where it is, let alone just sit and admire it from time to time, which is important. I don't know about you guys, but you collect, collect, collect, clean, clean, clean, catalog, catalog, catalog, take a few photos for GJ, and put it away somewhere, sometimes the money gets tight, and you start to wonder what you're doing it for if you can't sit back, relax, and smell the Fluid Film on it every once in awhile.

As you guys know, I've been buying some furniture to help with that. Some barristers, that old barbershop display case, and a wooden tools chest out of Wright Field. I am still arranging those, and I have one corner to take care of (badly in need of a bigger set of barristers or something like that), but in keeping with my theme of thinking of my space as a combination curator's office, shop, and museum crammed into one, I've also put up some steel library shelves in the middle, arranged in an L.

I have more plans for those, but if only as a test pilot, and to make myself feel like I am making a little progress, here is a sneak peek at the Plomb Family Corner, outside (Pics 1 & 2) and in (Pic 3).



I like that fleet display! I was working on my tool boards the other day for the adjustable wrench board so I can appreciate your collection so far! I have the same sizes you do but I think you are mainly focusing on war time so you won’t have the big sizes? In the transitional catalog they go all the way up to 20” so I had to make room for that big honker. Now I need to find the wrenches that are bigger than 12”[emoji15]


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All - I am back after brief health scare non COVID related. I ended up picking up a Plomb Pebble Picklefork!
As some of you probably know, my attention (I won't say "focus") the last few years has been on making the Lugzsonian more, er, presentable. The problem is that my collection is all over the place and mainly out of sight. Under the workbenches, in a 41-C-15 WWII cabinet, in a small steel cabinet, or in a freestanding taller metal cabinet. Sets, orphans, and everything else. It's hard to remember what I have, or where it is, let alone just sit and admire it from time to time, which is important. I don't know about you guys, but you collect, collect, collect, clean, clean, clean, catalog, catalog, catalog, take a few photos for GJ, and put it away somewhere, sometimes the money gets tight, and you start to wonder what you're doing it for if you can't sit back, relax, and smell the Fluid Film on it every once in awhile.

As you guys know, I've been buying some furniture to help with that. Some barristers, that old barbershop display case, and a wooden tools chest out of Wright Field. I am still arranging those, and I have one corner to take care of (badly in need of a bigger set of barristers or something like that), but in keeping with my theme of thinking of my space as a combination curator's office, shop, and museum crammed into one, I've also put up some steel library shelves in the middle, arranged in an L.

I have more plans for those, but if only as a test pilot, and to make myself feel like I am making a little progress, here is a sneak peek at the Plomb Family Corner, outside (Pics 1 & 2) and in (Pic 3).
Can't wait to see the finished product. Looking good.
Junk store find from today: Plomb LA 1455 body and fender dolly
Nice. Those dollies are hard to find.
This 4711L came in the mail today. 3 down and 3 to go.
Nice! I seen that tucked in that small lot. Glad to see you got it. Good luck on the remaining 3!
I will get some pictures up later, but I just inventoried everything, and all of the sockets are either Plomb - 7/8" to 2-1/2" (most of them), Proto La, one P&C, and one regular Proto. There are two breaker bars, one pebble and one LA, an eight-inch extension, and one 1" drive socket (2-3/8"), which is not the biggest socket! What is interesting is it's a mostly matching black oxide set. Never seen that before. Now I need a black oxide ratchet...

Oh, and it is around one hundred pounds of tools. I had to partially unload it to get it in and out of my truck.

OK, here is the moment you all have been waiting for! Drive tools:

You can really see the black oxide on the one breaker bar and T-handle.

Sockets:

Plomb, mostly black oxide.


Proto LA, one of which has a bolthead stuck on one end and a T-handle head on the other.


Misc. extra Plomb, Proto, and P&C (the one with a stepped base) and the 1" Plomb is on the right.

The box seems to be an old military box of some sort, not sure what the markings denote, but there are some very faded extra markings below and to the right of the lock, which I need to cut off.


Obviously, I still need to clean everything, but that is half the fun. So, I now have extra 5-line sockets and will be putting them up for sale, here first to let the Plomb fanatics have first shot at them. It might be a few days to figure out which ones though.
Very nice set and pick up.
Looks good! I recognize one of those big pebble does [emoji23]


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[emoji106]. Thanks again.IMG_20201031_123503041.jpegIMG_20201031_123516713.jpg

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I like that fleet display! I was working on my tool boards the other day for the adjustable wrench board so I can appreciate your collection so far! I have the same sizes you do but I think you are mainly focusing on war time so you won’t have the big sizes? In the transitional catalog they go all the way up to 20” so I had to make room for that big honker. Now I need to find the wrenches that are bigger than 12”[emoji15]


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I found out recently that they did make a 20" before the transition era. Now I have to shuffle my board around again.

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I found out recently that they did make a 20" before the transition era. Now I have to shuffle my board around again.

Looking for a Round Beam Plomb 1068 Double Box End Wrench



Interesting.... Once I saw the size I made sure to allow space in the board but I haven’t researched it much beyond that. I made sure to create extra space on these to allow for future hopeful growth!


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All - I am back after brief health scare non COVID related. I ended up picking up a Plomb Pebble Picklefork!Can't wait to see the finished product. Looking good.Nice. Those dollies are hard to find.Nice! I seen that tucked in that small lot. Glad to see you got it. Good luck on the remaining 3!Very nice set and pick up.[emoji106]. Thanks again.IMG_20201031_123503041.jpegIMG_20201031_123516713.jpg

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I am glad you are back! Hopefully you didn’t poke yourself with the pickle fork[emoji15]


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Welcome back Roy!

Well I’m a long ways from the awesome plomb weekend I had last week, but I did find a pair of 3/8” deeps today. Better than a poke in the eye with a pickle fork.
 

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Lugz, I feel for ya, and like the direction you are going. I've been trying to just organize better, much less display stuff, but dedicated period boxes for the old Long C, Plvmb , SK and SO tools is helping as I get them organized.

I also have my inventory (you mentioned a catalog) and I've included in the Boxes tab in the spreadsheet, what the boxes purpose is. A code of some sort and I could spell out which box the stuff is in (and I actually do that for wrenches... not for much else though...)
 

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Nice. Looks like you are ready for toolrists!
I see what you did there. Not quite yet. I can't even get around down there without tripping over something. But I did make space for a mini-fridge my daughter no longer needed, so me and my touring guests won't even have to traipse up the steps for a...!
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I have the same sizes you do but I think you are mainly focusing on war time so you won’t have the big sizes?
No focus whatsoever. Those are all the J.P. Danielson made adjustables I have found, and they are either JPD, Plomb, PENENS, or Proto. I lucked into the Fleet pegboard holder by accident, and it just happens to have the sizes I have collected! :D

Can't wait to see the finished product. Looking good.
Thanks, Roy. I have a Lyon tote filed with orphans, including that 3/4-inch Ell handle I am holding for you, tucked away in a tall cabinet with doors. But the tools on the shelves (Plomb spark plug sockets in red box, 1/2-drive and 3/8-drive WF- in OD boxes, tappet wrenches - no pouch, PENENS Master Wrenches in box, Firestone 3/8 and 1/4-drive in boxes, Firestone hammer, and Circle-U 1/2-drive - no box) are the complete, display-worthy sets.

Lugz, I feel for ya, and like the direction you are going.
Thanks. I don't have that much space (~25' x 25'), so I have to make the most of it. The steel erector-set type shelves are helping me use the empty space in the middle, and I am going to use the pegboards on the back side, too.
 

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I got my adjustable/ pipe wrench board done! It is 2’ x4’ so you can see how big it is with the modern impact driver sitting on the ground! The adjustable portion runs from 6” to 20” and the pipe wrenches run from 6” to 24”. That is the big pipe wrench pictured! It is dual marked as well. I had to cut an outlet port in this so as to not block the outlet but the others will be fine with no hole needed! Some of the holes in the small wrenches had such small holes I had to use nails for hangers . I need a 4 6,8 ,16,20 adjustable wrenches and need a 6, 10,14 ,18 pipe wrenches if someone has some?

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^^^ Lookin good!

I only found one piece today. Not the most exciting dual marked tool, but dual marked none the less.
 

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Thanks. I don't have that much space (~25' x 25'), so I have to make the most of it. The steel erector-set type shelves are helping me use the empty space in the middle, and I am going to use the pegboards on the back side, too.

Whoa, look at the fancy man, with his space approx. four times as big as mine!

But seriously, I would kill for that much space, as between the shop (11x13) and the annex (tiny) I am always out of room.
 
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