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plumbing supply lines
- Thread starter Ralf11
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Whatever you decide avoid any .. Especially the toilet supply line if it has plastic vs metal fittings
and if your angle stops are plastic or inoperable it is a good time for some 1/4 turn units
the only time i ever had a supply line fail and it was in my own home and a not to old toilet supply ,, the plastic fitting cracked ,, thank god we were home
and if your angle stops are plastic or inoperable it is a good time for some 1/4 turn units
the only time i ever had a supply line fail and it was in my own home and a not to old toilet supply ,, the plastic fitting cracked ,, thank god we were home
the old copper lines were a lifetime item basically. the new stainless braided are prone to failure . seen it many times . I would probably put them on a 5 yr replace cycle to be sure .
My house is all 3/8 copper supply lines , except for the kitchen sink taps which are Moen with braided flex lines .
My house is all 3/8 copper supply lines , except for the kitchen sink taps which are Moen with braided flex lines .
theoldwizard1
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and if your angle stops are plastic or inoperable it is a good time for some 1/4 turn units.
All 3 in my half bath are either frozen or will not completely stop the flow of water. On top of that, these are the 3 lowest stops in the house so even when I turn off the main (thankfully THAT works well) and drain through all of the available points, there is usually a gallon or more that comes out !
These stops are less than 30 years old. If I ever replace them I will use 1/4 turn valves that have compression fitting on the inlet.
theoldwizard1
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I just replaced a faucet (or I should say my son did it for me) because the old one (a Delta) was so corroded we could not get the bonnet/cap nut off to replace the $5 seats !
Of course the wife picked one by a company I have never heard of (Kraus - NOT German). No one sells the replacement cartridge ! I am seriously thinking buying a replacement cartridge from the company (whooping 1 year warranty) and dis-assembling it in order to put never-seize on the threads.
Of course the wife picked one by a company I have never heard of (Kraus - NOT German). No one sells the replacement cartridge ! I am seriously thinking buying a replacement cartridge from the company (whooping 1 year warranty) and dis-assembling it in order to put never-seize on the threads.
nadogail
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I have quit buying anything but quarter turn angle stops and flexible braided hoses. I prefer Fluid Master brand hoses.
AP514
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Whatever you decide avoid any .. Especially the toilet supply line if it has plastic vs metal fittings
and if your angle stops are plastic or inoperable it is a good time for some 1/4 turn units
the only time i ever had a supply line fail and it was in my own home and a not to old toilet supply ,, the plastic fitting cracked ,, thank god we were home
I had the same thing happen. We heard a Snap sound and then running water....Lucky we were home... about 5 gallons had run out in a very short time.
NEVER USE PLASTIC fittings......
spudley
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Yep. A few months back, I arrived at my "up north" place and turned on the water in the house before I headed out to the garage/shop. While heading to the door, I thought I heard water running, which is weird as nothing was on. So I went looking and sure enough an upstairs sink supply (plastic, and I sure don't know what idiot put that in...me) had cracked and a pretty good stream was pouring out. I shut off the angle stop which worked (amazingly after twenty years) and cleaned up the mess then changed the line to a metal one I had.Whatever you decide avoid any .. Especially the toilet supply line if it has plastic vs metal fittings
and if your angle stops are plastic or inoperable it is a good time for some 1/4 turn units
the only time i ever had a supply line fail and it was in my own home and a not to old toilet supply ,, the plastic fitting cracked ,, thank god we were home
Thankfully this old man still has good hearing.
I'm usually out in the garage for many hours at a time. Oh what a mess I could've had.
Anyway, I changed all the plastic **** over to new metal jacketed, metal fittings. Truthfully I'm not so sure if these are any good, as I'm sure they're made in the land of almost right.
Whatever you decide avoid any .. Especially the toilet supply line if it has plastic vs metal fittings
and if your angle stops are plastic or inoperable it is a good time for some 1/4 turn units
the only time i ever had a supply line fail and it was in my own home and a not to old toilet supply ,, the plastic fitting cracked ,, thank god we were home
I had the same thing happen. We heard a Snap sound and then running water....Lucky we were home... about 5 gallons had run out in a very short time.
NEVER USE PLASTIC fittings......
I have quit buying anything but quarter turn angle stops and flexible braided hoses. I prefer Fluid Master brand hoses.
I bought fluid master for 2 new toilets. Plastic hand tight fittings that click like a gas tank and keep spinning once they are tight enough. I felt very secure. I probably used to overtighten everything that I didn't use a torque-wrench on : )
By 'quoting' Nadogail last (after the 'multi-quotes'), his quote was last (even though it wasn't last in the thread)!
MushCreek
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It's funny; I hear about supply hoses for washing machines all of the time, yet no one says much about the lines on all of the other plumbing in the house. Most of mine are braided plastic; I should probably go around and replace them, as they've been in place 7 years now. In our powder room, I tried to use chrome solid lines because there are vintage fixtures, and they are visible, but I absolutely could not get them to seal. I tried over and over, chucking fitting after fitting. I even used a crow foot on a torque wrench, as it was suggested I over-tightened them. I finally bought lines and fittings from a pro supply house- no better. I gave up and put braided hoses on. I hate plumbing.
ford33
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I just replaced my dishwasher supply line. I buy the braided lines but don't believe they are any better or last longer than other lines. I try not to buy hoses with plastic fittings.
I write the date to replace the hose on the large tag that seems to come attached to these braided lines. "Replace 2030".
I write the date to replace the hose on the large tag that seems to come attached to these braided lines. "Replace 2030".
59 wagon man
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THE BRAIDED HOSES ARE A sales gimmick. they seem to always disintegrate internally and plug up the item they serve before the braid even looks bad best is copper next is pex
SALIV8
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Typically, the washing machine hoses fail more often ime. I like to swap those out every 5 yrs or so.
mobiledynamics
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Scrolling this but unless I am mistaken.
Aren't all -flex- lines plastic. I mean the braided ones - which I've never done a cutaway, but aren't they all plastic and difference was literally there was a SS braid on it.
Aren't all -flex- lines plastic. I mean the braided ones - which I've never done a cutaway, but aren't they all plastic and difference was literally there was a SS braid on it.
MushCreek
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I think the washing machine hoses suffer from vibration and shock. When the valves shut off, they really jump. There are a variety of solutions, such as simply turning them off when not in use (they make automatic ones, too) and sensing valves that can tell when the water is coming out too fast for too long. We used to turn ours off, but got out of the habit. When we leave on vacation, all of the water in the house is shut off.
johnnyradiant
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Are there any standards for these things? Like a testing lab that certifies them (similar to UL).
Water damage is a biggie for Ins. Co.s so you'd think they would set something up...
There are very high standards - they sell them you buy them.
From the 80's through the 90's there were Butyl supply lines. (iIm not talking about the butyl piping used in the Southeast, the material is the same, the problem is the same, but the supply lines were around much longer.) These were gray, somewhat flexible but not braided, and came in the same form factor as the chromed copper lines with the built-in cone end. It sounds like this is what the OP is referring too. These were used everywhere and were prone to failure. I agree copper is the best for a lifetime product. But you are still dealing with a rubber cone washer at the faucet end, which is not a lifetime product. I doc love the look of a chrome copper riser, but other than a toilet you never seen them inside a cabinet. For as often as faucets get changed, I like the braided stainless. Change them when you have to change a faucet or a shut off.
not any that I've seen. they are all balled end copper. the toilet supplies use a nylon washer ....... I agree copper is the best for a lifetime product. But you are still dealing with a rubber cone washer at the faucet end, which is not a lifetime product. .......