Pneumatic spindexer and Collet ID
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In case anyone else is wondering WTF OP is doing this time,
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Pneumatic spindexer?
Looking for one? Found this, not a precise application, so this might be acceptable. Anyone know of any similar units that might be a little more quality?
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Cruzan80
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So why did you buy something that you didn't know what it takes? Looking around, nobody seems to sell collets. I did find this picture, but it shows very different dimensions than what you wrote above.
Also, the fact that none of these sellers seem to also sell collets should have been a major red-flag...
Also, the fact that none of these sellers seem to also sell collets should have been a major red-flag...
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Ya, was not expecting a lot! Was betting on it being a 5c. I’ve gotten a few cheap spindexers all have been 5c.
Ya, thought that may have been the cylinder for e or size.
alfadan
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Cruzan80
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I saw several with a drop-down of 15, 20 and 25, but no mention of what they were supposed to fit besides the one pic I posted (which shows a 21' angle, not 14...)
Cruzan80
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Looks like they may be a W25 type collet (Schaublin)?
Thats what i thought too! Seemed a little off though. Might try one, haven’t found a good source yet.
Ya I picked the 25. Bigger is better right?Even better, the title says type15, but the picture says type25!
Oh, those guys!
RoninB4
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-I have a suggestion to help clarify but you didn't ask and don't wish to further offend.
-A somewhat meaningless reply from the seller. A "type 25" collet could mean an ER25 collet but that's not even a "pull type" of collet.
-This happened because....
-I have a suggestion to help clarify but you didn't ask and don't wish to further offend.
-Could be but several of the dimensions don't match what was posted. Schaublin made an almost bewildering array of collets, including a re-design of the machinery (lathes) years ago that dictated new specs. This can depend on whether there was an "N" designation (N=new) or not. If seeking a greater understanding of what one manufacturer does in the evolution of design a quick perusal of the Schaublin catalog is great bedtime reading. This thread should also lead to the conclusion that the Chinese can/do duplicate good tooling but are often vague about providing those nagging details (We just sell things). Matching/mating components, especially collets, isn't a casual affair and presuming (5C) can/will bite you in the ****. Schaublin link below.
Cruzan80
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Agreed. As I said before, the one pic of a closer like this I could find with a collet had numbers that didn't match the drawing in this first thread.
The reason I was suggesting W25 was because that was literally the only thing I could find that showed a 15, 20 and 25 Type, and found an sideways reference to them in a related listing. The other half was that the only way I could seem to find any were they AliBaba or other related Asian commerce sites.
NO GUARANTEE they would work!
I am also "not saying anything" related to buying a piece of machinery that you don't know the specs, and just "hoping" that it is the size you want. Without a way to hold the work, we don't know how concentric it is, if the pneumatics work, or anything else...
The seller is no help because it is an eBay drop shipper, who is simply a front for a warehouse. It is like asking computer specs from the Walmart Employee.
RoninB4
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-We're all very uncertain about this yet have spent a lot more time investigating/researching attempting to help. Presumably far more than....
-It was a valid guess but at this point I wouldn't place very much faith in what the seller says. "I just sell things".
-There do appear to be several sites that sell these collets but throwing a dart at the Schaublin catalog (Schaublin design hasn't even been identified) isn't a prudent decision either. There are other collets besides Schaublin too.
Well, there is a way but that hasn't happened yet.
-Most collets should do ok for what the OP wants to use it for IMO, provide the collet matches the holder and drawbar.
-Would be a heck of a thing to finally get the right collet and the pneumatics didn't meet expectations.
-I'm certainly not the last word on the matter either but there's a few "experts" here I wouldn't take machinery/tooling advice from.
rlitman
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Yeah, that's a sensible choice. You had one weird collet there.
Could have been, but it was getting pretty long
Looks like someone merged the threads...
All 3 threads on the same issue have been merged.
Thanks for the murge. Wasn’t really sure