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Pointers on my radiant slab

35fordjh

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Hello everyone, this is my first post although I have lurked for awhile.

I recently poured a slab in part of my pole building and I included 3 loops of 1/2" pex, 265-285 ft per loop. My slab is 24x36 so the loops were spaced 12".
Hydronic systems are fairly rare here so I had very little guidance and not really anyone to consult. I thought I had done quite a bit of research but after reading the 40 page post here about it, I wish I had found it before I bought and put together all the components I have now.
I used a calculator at supplyhouse.com and got about 30k btu. But then I see people say 2 btu/sq ft per degree of difference. With the temp being 8* outside, my slab is about 28*. To get 55*, that figures up to 46,656 btu.

I bought a 30 gallon electric HWH and set it up to run simultaneous, making 30k btu. I now realize that this was not the way to go. With that being said and my budget being spent for now, is there anything you see that I can change or setup differently for now to improve my current situation?
I plan on changing to something like a Tagaki or Noritz by next winter, but I'm stuck with what I have for now. I should also note that I don't use the shop all the time so I wanted to be able to shut everything down for possibly a couple weeks at a time. I did use glycol for this reason.
 

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How long has the water heater been running? I would think it will probably have to run the better part of a week to stabilize the slab temperature.

I get a lot of flak whenever I say it, but in floor radiant isn’t the best choice for intermittent heating of a part time home shop. (And my shop is set up with a radiant system)
 

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I should also note that I don't use the shop all the time so I wanted to be able to shut everything down for possibly a couple weeks at a time. I did use glycol for this reason.

What type of glycol did you use? What is the % concentration in the loop? Did you look at the pump curve for the circ pump for a water/glycol mix?
 
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35fordjh

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What type of glycol did you use? What is the % concentration in the loop? Did you look at the pump curve for the circ pump for a water/glycol mix?

I used ethylene, 50%. Knowing now what the slab temp is, I could thin it out and be more efficient and still not worry about freezing.
I did figure the pump curve since it has 3 speeds. Speed 3 fits the 3.024 gpm and 14-15 ft of head that I came up with.
 
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35fordjh

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How long has the water heater been running? I would think it will probably have to run the better part of a week to stabilize the slab temperature.

I get a lot of flak whenever I say it, but in floor radiant isn’t the best choice for intermittent heating of a part time home shop. (And my shop is set up with a radiant system)

I ran it for just over 12 hours and shut it down when we got hit with the sub zero temps last week. It got up to about 50* floor temp but started loosing heat after the sun went down and temps started to dive.
 

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If you got the slab to 50 degrees in 8 degree weather in only 12 hours, I’m not sure you have an issue.

The radiant floor will never be a modulating system

I think my floor, at 54 degrees, keeps the shop at 47 degrees, and I use a hanging heater to bump it to 60 or so when I’m working.

The boiler alone will keep the room at any temp I choose, but it’s oversized for the area compared to your water heater.
 
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