pole barn lifting

[ezover]

thinking of having my pole barn lifted 1 to 3 feet or having it moved 100 feet.

looking for advice.

i will hire some one to do the work.

it's a 32 x 48 pole barn, concrete floor, 10 foot ceiling, 24 inch on center trusses, osb roof.

when the previous owner had the barn built, the floor was poured 1/2 inch above grade in the absolute lowest spot in the neighborhood next to a drainage ditch.

during the last 10 years we have had 3, 100 year rain falls, which has resulted in the drainage ditch over flowing and getting as high as 4 inches above the floor.

yard is clay so when it rains it stays soggy for extended periods of time. last year i ran drain tile all the way around the barn to the drainage ditch, that helped a lot.

the last few years i have noticed the floor of the barn sweating crazy amounts of water in the spring.

i have some one coming out tomorrow to give me a estimate on raising the barn and/ or moving it, i,ll post the prices when i get them.

any thoughts or questions i should be asking or other things i should have done during the lifting or move.

my other thought, would there be a way to landscape a brim around the barn a foot high that would keep the water out when it floods and also not trap water against the barn?

if i can find my camera i will post some pictures of a few problems i am having because of the water issues.

 

[what have i done]

no suggestions, but sounds like a fun project to WATCH. not moving far so it should definately be do-able and not terribly expensive....interested to hear what you find out

 

[gsport]

good luck, sounds like a major undertaking....

 

[stafford]

Consider raising the floor a foot?

 

[ezover]

Consider raising the floor a foot?

i want to maintain a 10 ceiling and if i go the lift route i,ll just go 3 feet to get a 12' ceiling.

 

[LIVELY]

i have raised a 30 by 30 before--just takes alot of jacks/ time/ and common sence.

you will need to break out at least part of the old concrete for drainage and posts removal.

let us here the bids

 

[ezover]

for those who are waiting for the bids, here they are.

bid 1, left message, no call back

bid 2, left message, no call back

bid 3, showed up on time did walk around, showed me his picture book of other jobs he did, we discussed what i wanted done, he said he would call me back
with some prices. that was 2 weeks ago.

i guess with the economy booming like it is, no one has time for a small job like this.

 

[Crazy Car Guy]

the liabilitys are huge on that job i wouldn't touch it and ive lifted and moved a few houses and stick framed garages. why not cut off 1 ft and fill and deal with a 9' wall or tear down salvage and rebuild. ive moved 2 pole barns and both were torn down and re built were they were needed. had to move one 5 ft to the left over a property line dispute and it involved tearing down a 2 month old building and demoing a 5' x 40' 6" piece off the slab.

 

[justanengineer]

Either that, or maybe he thought you wouldnt want to invest the money? My brother got estimates for having a house moved about 100' two years ago. $15000 was the "dads known this guy 20 years" rate from the lowest bidder. Call me crazy, but I suspect your pole barn would be more to move. From what they said, the major expense isnt the weight, its the labor tieing everything together in order to move, which your pole barn would almost certainly require more of.

I recommend either doing it yourself (not too tough just slow), tearing it down and rebuilding elsewhere (slower), or simply having concrete added to the floor (expensive). I suspect if landscaping was an easy alternative for you, you would have done it already.

 

[theoldwizard1]

If your thinking about doing it yourself, you'll need to get friendly with your local building inspector and find out what he is likely to approve !

There are 2 way tackle this job, neither are very pretty.

First step is raise the roof. Nail a new "plate" about 1-2' in from the current truss plate. You probably should put put reinforcement 2x4 between the bottom truss 2x4 and the top 2x4 immediately above the new plate. This new plate probably should be a double 2x6 and will be your load point for your jacks. You going to need a bunch of long 4x6 to stand on top of the jacks and under the new plate. You are also going to need a lot of "cribbing" to put under your temporary posts as you lift. You are also going to need a bunch of "come-a-longs" and miles of cable to cross brace that roof until you get it put back together.

Second step is where you have an option or where the inspector will decide for you. Once the roof is raised, you can either build a 3' "wall' using conventional studs with a top and bottom plate that sits between the top of the posts and the roof. Or you can insert short posts on top of the existing posts reinforced by some serious angle iron (3x5x1/4) probably 4-6' long, spanning the gap. Might require "bolt though" instead of "lag in".

Third, once the roof is re-attached, break out the floor. Remove about 6-8' up of the siding and start hauling in sand. It will take over 200 cu. yds !!!

Lots of work. Will be tricky. Get a price on building a new one where you want it.

I would love to watch !

 

[theroyz71]

There's a thread on here where someone moved a pole barn. Seems like he did it himself although he had access to the equipment.

 

[Rockerbox1]

you'd be cheaper to build a whole new polebarn, then maybe find someone who wants your old one, they can buy it from you, tear it down and rebuild on their property.
then worse case, you can put a basketball goal on the old slab