jives
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What innovations have come to pole barns or post frame buildings?
i've got two pole barns on my property. The first is 22 x 22, 1.5 story mini-barn that I built myself. The next is a 32 x 42 x 14 structure housing my garage and shop, built by the Amish. Both are built relatively the same, except that the large building uses perma columns and trusses and bookcase girts, the small building had posts directly in the ground and uses rafters and tradition girts.
Pole barns (which may or may not be the same as a post-frame building), have graduated from crudely built ag building to sophisticated homes and commercial spaces. Without any discussion of post frame vs. pole barn, what are some of the innovations that any future builder should be looking at, particularly in building ease, building longevity, ability to finish with high grade materials. Here are some examples. . .
1. Most pole barns use a pressure treated skirt board, which may rot over time. There seems to exist galvanized steel skirts, composite board skirts, and concrete skirts, but they are not common. There are also sleeves for posts and skirt boards.
2. What about brick ledges?
3. Permacolumns and poured piers with brackets have made a huge inroad in any building designed for a long life. Squaring and leveling piers/brackets is always a pain. Anything better out there?
4. Interior finishing, e.g., bookcase girts vs. traditional vertical stick framed interior walls in-between the posts, can be problematic. Bookcase girts form a hanging wall that if tied to the concrete floor can be susceptible to heaving. Vertical stick framing is depending on the stability of a poured slab that is not tied to a stem wall.
5. Top girder and truss attachment. Some trusses are simply spaced 3-4' or so, with purlins generally nailed flat. Some trusses are doubled up and only placed on the posts. Purlins are then placed on hangers in-between the trusses. Any advantage to either? is there a better way?
6. What about the use of SIPs with pole barns? (structural insulated panels).
Thoughts, with links?
i've got two pole barns on my property. The first is 22 x 22, 1.5 story mini-barn that I built myself. The next is a 32 x 42 x 14 structure housing my garage and shop, built by the Amish. Both are built relatively the same, except that the large building uses perma columns and trusses and bookcase girts, the small building had posts directly in the ground and uses rafters and tradition girts.
Pole barns (which may or may not be the same as a post-frame building), have graduated from crudely built ag building to sophisticated homes and commercial spaces. Without any discussion of post frame vs. pole barn, what are some of the innovations that any future builder should be looking at, particularly in building ease, building longevity, ability to finish with high grade materials. Here are some examples. . .
1. Most pole barns use a pressure treated skirt board, which may rot over time. There seems to exist galvanized steel skirts, composite board skirts, and concrete skirts, but they are not common. There are also sleeves for posts and skirt boards.
2. What about brick ledges?
3. Permacolumns and poured piers with brackets have made a huge inroad in any building designed for a long life. Squaring and leveling piers/brackets is always a pain. Anything better out there?
4. Interior finishing, e.g., bookcase girts vs. traditional vertical stick framed interior walls in-between the posts, can be problematic. Bookcase girts form a hanging wall that if tied to the concrete floor can be susceptible to heaving. Vertical stick framing is depending on the stability of a poured slab that is not tied to a stem wall.
5. Top girder and truss attachment. Some trusses are simply spaced 3-4' or so, with purlins generally nailed flat. Some trusses are doubled up and only placed on the posts. Purlins are then placed on hangers in-between the trusses. Any advantage to either? is there a better way?
6. What about the use of SIPs with pole barns? (structural insulated panels).
Thoughts, with links?