Pole Barn Post Repair System Video

[DaveMcLain]

Somehow this video popped into my YouTube feed and it shows a really interesting repair system that these guys have developed to repair rotted wooden posts in an existing pole barn. I wonder what it costs per post?

 

[zkdiesel]

$250 a post and will ususally hurt your outside tin
I’ve had it done

 

[kbs2244]

a properly built pole barn will not need it
the pole holes would be drained

 

[zkdiesel]

a properly built pole barn will not need it
the pole holes would be drained

Talk to me after 50 years

 

[red61cj5]

You can dig down and cut off the rotten part and install a flanged perma-column. A lot more work, though.

 

[zkdiesel]

You can dig down and cut off the rotten part and install a flanged perma-column. A lot more work, though.

I repaired 80 posts this fall. Those are now locked into concrete! Most pieces of steel you see are 7’ long and some permacollumn style ones also

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

I'm sure the life of in-ground posts is greatly effected by local factors. Free draining soil and being properly bedded in open gravel helps. Your posts look really close together for a pole barn ZK and if it looks like that's the first concrete floor to be poured there. I think an interior slab generally helps. It's definitely better for the poles than a dirt floored livestock barn. My pole barn / shop is about 30 years old now and so far so good on poles. Not an easy proposition fixing post on the inside due to insulation, walls, etc.

I expect my West facing poles will be the first to need replacing as they face the storms and are further from drainage relief. So far even the half exposed grade board on that side is still holding up. I plan to remove a sheet of exterior tin when the time comes and build some support just outside the poles. Maybe I wont care by the time they need it though as I may be to old to notice or give a damn anymore.

 

[zkdiesel]

I'm sure the life of in-ground posts is greatly effected by local factors. Free draining soil and being properly bedded in open gravel helps. Your posts look really close together for a pole barn ZK and if it looks like that's the first concrete floor to be poured there. I think an interior slab generally helps. It's definitely better for the poles than a dirt floored livestock barn. My pole barn / shop is about 30 years old now and so far so good on poles. Not an easy proposition fixing post on the inside due to insulation, walls, etc.

I expect my West facing poles will be the first to need replacing as they face the storms and are further from drainage relief. So far even the half exposed grade board on that side is still holding up. I plan to remove a sheet of exterior tin when the time comes and build some support just outside the poles. Maybe I wont care by the time they need it though as I may be to old to notice or give a damn anymore.

Grain package building so posts every 4’. ***** but atleast as building ages there more to hold it up

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

That explains the 4' spaced posts ZK. Definitely a lot sturdier building that way. Not a disadvatage having more posts in side walls at all except for when the $250 each reinforcing bill comes due. Easy enough to frame around them if you ever wanted to put a door there too. I wouldn't mind having poles on 6' centers splitting the 12' my barn was built with.

 

[billconner]

Improper pressure treatment - Use Classification - is likely a cause of many failures. UC-4B or UC-4C will last a long time even if it is constantly wet.

Pressure Treated Post Frame Building Poles Rot - Hansen Buildings

Mike the Pole Barn Guru cites article "Long-Term Durability of Pressure Treated Wood in a Severe Test Site" as proof wood columns won't rot off long past a person's lifespan.

www.hansenpolebuildings.com

 

[zkdiesel]

That explains the 4' spaced posts ZK. Definitely a lot sturdier building that way. Not a disadvatage having more posts in side walls at all except for when the $250 each reinforcing bill comes due. Easy enough to frame around them if you ever wanted to put a door there too. I wouldn't mind having poles on 6' centers splitting the 12' my barn was built with.

Buildings had a hard life. Put up in 76. 100x60x15
82 got concrete in half.
Late 70’s through 93 had grain in back half all winter at 13’ Mark high
93 got taken down, including removing all posts from concrete. Got moved 15 miles south with every piece of tin, board, pole in same location. AND building was nailed
Now in 22 all posts are about shot so did this to save building. Has crazy concrete floor now with cranes, water, sunken steel

23 outside is getting all new tin, waynescoat, spray foamed and inside tin
24 will complete it’s transformation to my new shop

 

[kbs2244]

there are 2 wood post barns on my grandfathers farm in De Kalb county IL that are over 100 years old
both with dirt floors
the one has over 2 tons of lumber in the loft
the other was the "horse barn"

the holes are in 3 feet of black dirt and then clay
I do not know how they were dug or set up for drainage
but it can be done

 

[Youngandfree]

Does anyone use those post saver sleeves when building? I don't see them mentioned anywhere.

 

[DaveMcLain]

Does anyone use those post saver sleeves when building? I don't see them mentioned anywhere.

I've wondered about the effectiveness of those too. How does it help? Does it keep the post dry? Clean? Or away from oxygen?

 

[haveissues]

That video made me glad I paid extra for perma columns a couple of years ago.

 

[olytdi]

Posts don't rot because they come in contact with water as evidenced by logs successfully stored under water for centuries. They rot at the ground/air interface where microbial activity occurs. Above is aerobic and below is anearobic. The interface is rot heaven. Look at your outdoor fence posts -- they rot first and most extensively at the ground line.