Pole Barn Question

[diver165]

I've been toying with the idea of building a garage. But because of the way my lot slopes and it's orientation to the neighbors, I've got concerns. The lot slopes approx 18-24in in the total run of the building. The property is bordered by fences. I've seen where a few people have actually built a pole barn and used double 2x12 skirts on the low side. Then filled the inside of the barn (garage) with say completable fill. Then poured their floor. The problem is, where I want the building to sit is approx 6ft from the neighbors fence. So I will not have a lot of room to taper the fill. Hence the need for a taller skirt. I browsed a bit and came across this pic. That is my situation but think of a fence running down the side and across the back (6ft away)

I've thought about a traditional stick frame building with excavation, stem wall etc. But where I live, finding someone that can do the work within 6-8 months is next to impossible. And then they want 5-7K just for the foundation (no pad). That is IF you can actually get them to show up for an estimate. One guy quoted me 5000.00 for the foundation only and I provide the materials. F#*K! I'm in the wrong line of work!!!

I would like to add that the plan for the building is to be a shop/garage/man cave. Finished inside eventually (electric and heat only).

 

[jkwilson]

My barn has 6 skirt boards on one end. Filled with 53s and poured concrete on top. Tapered 53s to raise the grade outside the doors. Just make sure they put the skirt boards down to slightly below the original grade so the fill can't work its way out. Sand and fill stone can wash out. 53s set up like concrete after a while.

 

[diver165]

That's what I wanted to hear. I kinda figured I could do it. The load of the building is in the poles and footings. So the pad is just kind of floating up and down between the poles.

I built an extension of my drive way years ago to accommodate a really large boat. I used 6x6 treated timbers to make a 3 sided wedge to level up to extend the drive way. I filled it with crusher run and topped it off with 57 limestone. That was over 20yrs ago. The new home owners have since poured concrete over it and it's still there.

 

[buddyboy]

if you have any concerns about those lower skirt boards blowing out down the road, you could always use some threaded rod and tie them back under the building like deadmen

i don't think you'll have that much weight on the slab, and the ground under the building should stay dry... but if you do have any concerns it would be easy to buy some insurance with a couple well placed deadmen now

 

[diver165]

That's true. I didn't think of that.


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[Voi]

I feel like there is a build thread on this site where somebody transitioned from a slab floor to a wood floor with crawlspace and had one end of their pole barn elevated. Not sure how to go about looking for that thread. I tried to find it before with no luck.

During that search I did find the attached pic below. This is not the barn I'm thinking of but gives you an idea of what I mean.

Wouldn't be my first choice but thought of it when I saw your thread.