Pole barn setup on block foundation?

[Daddydavesr86]

Due to some tight easements and elevation issues.
Im researching this type of build.

Block foundation and set poles on top of block build pole barn rest of the way the same?
Is there any cost difference pole barn like this compare to stick built?
Ive read if not building atleast certain size pole barn is not cost saving.
Is there a way to determine how many 2x4s one needs to build stick built vs lumber needed for pole barn?
Build 16" on center on walls just caculate wall demensions.
But not sure about truss cost. 4/12 pitch
I guess truss cost be the same pole barn vs stick built.
I guess just need to call truss building company get a quote. Not sure if they are 2' on center.

 

[joe_padavano]

The whole point of a pole building is that the poles are sunk into the ground to carry the moment loads. Without that, you need some other method to prevent racking. Either internal diagonal braces or moment-carrying post bases that are anchored to the foundation.

 

[ace10]

You want to do a CMU foundation and then put poles on top of that?

Why?

 

[Daddydavesr86]

Gradeing and elevation.
Front to back grade slopes 3' span 30'.
Location of building 2' from side of property and 5' from the back.
According to escavation contractors not enough room to properly grade without having possible issues with settling. Trying to have grade pad to get everything level prior to pole barn install.
Most of time pole barn installed with little bit land around so you can grade and feather out unlevel land.
Im in a subdivision.
Recommend block wall foundation like a house.
Im curious if it saves me any money after i do block foundation if i go stick built vs pole barn.
I have seen wet set or dry set brackets for poles but only seen them in like pillar concrete poor foundation type. Not seen them on top of block.

 

[firebirdparts]

I think it will, yes. We actually built one a long time ago. Diagonal bracing is going to be needed if you go that way, but anybody with an ounce of sense would see that coming.

 

[duneslider]

IF you are wanting a block foundation then just do conventional stick framing. No point doing post and beam in that case.

RRbuildings on youtube shows his method of not sinking posts in the ground, using a spot footing and special bracket at each post.

Many people not accustomed to post and beam building struggle to see cost savings due to trying to build it somewhat hybrid. Right now, post and beam could save a lot of money due to the high lumber prices I suspect.

 

[56Mark]

With the cost of lumber, if I was going to lay 3' tall block walls to start, I would consider going all the way up with block, especially if you are considering brick or some siding you can put on block easily. The masons will be there and set up anyway. Depending on how big it is, that could go up quick.

 

[Dragfluid]

I have a question. What's going to keep it from blowing into the next county when a high wind comes up?