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socapots

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Well just got a quote for a 36X48X14.
and it is wayyyyyy more than i expected.
26 grand for materals for the shell of the building.
35 grand for the shell it be built for me.
47 grand if i want to have them finish the interior.
There is no concrete, electrical, or plumbing include in that.
Have the quote i can scan and post when i get a chance.

I guess I'm back to wishing.
Our maybe figure out something in a stick frame variety.

Anyone care to share what things cost them.

And if anyone is curious I'm in Winnipeg Manitoba.

Edit: i also stopped in at a local place that would build a 30x40 for right around 30grand. And that includes concrete.
 
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I put up an olimpia steel building 40x60 12' sidewalls for around 38000 total, I did most of the work.

Building was 15000
insulation r38 walls, ceiling 6000

Concrete 6" slab with 4" gravel around 6500 I put in pex for hydronic heat and foam that is not in the pricing of the slab add another 1500 for that at least for hydronic heat

And all the other stuff that eats money I think I did well but it took about a year and a half to finish, working by myself once the foundation and main frame was up.

I have a 150 amp service with everything in conduit for electric.
 

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seems way to high to me. I will have 25sq ft in mine which includes concrete, heating and air conditioning, bathroom, 7:12 pitch roof, 1' soffit overhangs insulated coil up door and enough lights inside you will need sunscreen. Its a 40x50 with gameroom upstairs.
 

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My 30x40x10 Wick pole barn with two windows, one entry door, one 18'x8' service door in the front and one 8'x8' service door in the rear wall was $20,000, that was their crew building it. I have $3000 in excavation, and $7600 in concrete. So total so far I have $30,600 total in the building alone, this does not include electricity, insulation, or inside finished walls yet.
 

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Well just got a quote for a 36X48X14.
and it is wayyyyyy more than i expected.
26 grand for materals for the shell of the building.
35 grand for the shell it be built for me.
47 grand if i want to have them finish the interior.
There is no concrete, electrical, or plumbing include in that.
Have the quote i can scan and post when i get a chance.

I guess I'm back to wishing.
Our maybe figure out something in a stick frame variety.

Anyone care to share what things cost them.

And if anyone is curious I'm in Winnipeg Manitoba.

Edit: i also stopped in at a local place that would build a 30x40 for right around 30grand. And that includes concrete.

Thats about right for our area.

Aside from broom pushers and apprentices few people make less than $30 an hour working in construction around here.

Your not going to find anyone to build what you want for the prices you see people talking about on this website
 
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Thats about right for our area.

Aside from broom pushers and apprentices few people make less than $30 an hour working in construction around here.

Your not going to find anyone to build what you want for the prices you see people talking about on this website

Not concerned with how much money people in "our area" (i am assuming you are in winnipeg as well), someone is profiting good chunk and is not the workers.
But that's business i guess. Pretty sure most of that companies work is commercial. My little shop dreams would be a waste of time. Lol.
 

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My 28x28 cost me $24K in '05. Included 70 tons of base and excavation, concrete, four windows, one man door, a 10x14 slider, a 8x8 slider, and vinyl backed insulation throughout. Also an attached 12x28 covered carport with concrete. It had to be engineered due to local code.

Having gas run underground and stubbed in and electrical run from underground into a 200A panel cost me another $1500 or so.

I did all the wiring, lights, etc.

I remember getting the sense that they had under bid the job.
 

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Doors, overhang, finished eaves, insulation etc. can significantly change the price.

My 32'X64'X14' building + 12' lean-to, with gutters but no overhangs, two 10' overhead doors, a 16' slider, a 12'slider, two man doors, foil backed foam insulation and concrete in the bigger section cost me about 26K 15 years ago. I did the wiring.

That is in a mild snow-load region, so I have 8' truss spacing.

Insulation is expensive, and steel prices have gone up since I built mine.
 

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I built a 36x48 pole barn my self a year ago. 6x6 poles, trussed from Home Depot, metal siding. All my own labor. I have not poured a slab in it yet, just laid down gravel for now. The materials for the shell cost me well under $10K, and that includes all the sliding door hardware.
 

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I just completed a similar size building, in Southern NJ

40 x 60 x12H. (3), 10 x 10 overhead doors, 2 windows and a main door 6" 4500 PSI slab.
With foam insulation in the roof, but no other options 35, 500 which was the best of 4 quotes. This was on my prepared, flat and clear pad. I paid the excavator separately to clear and prep the site.

150AMP Electrical, with 400' underground feeder in conduit, was another 6000.

Someone mentioned location which is a big factor. The other factor is options.
How many doors and windows? Insulation? Special paint or wainscoting?
Cupolas, Weathervanes, all of those things add up too.
 

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These types of threads pop up all the time, and there's always tons of people out there that got dream garages for the price of a loaf of bread etc. etc.

Bottom line is that getting a few quotes in your area, aiming to get apples to apples comparisons from each, is your only true way to know what your building will cost on your lot.

(PS - the "apples to apples" part is important)

(PS - Also, site prep is a commonly overlooked aspect of quoting... and it can cost a lot)
 

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Do you happen to know off hand what this would have cost you separately in your area?

I never would've guessed one could get so much of a pole barn build done for under $15 per square foot in New Jersey.

They did detail that. I don't have it handy, but my memory is that the floor was about 6500 of the total cost. That was using the builders sub. I did quote the concrete separately and was not able to beat their price.
 
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I am just finishing my 32x48x14 pole barn. I built the entire building myself. The only thing hired out was the garage doors and concrete floor.

Shingle roof, vinyl siding, 100amp electrical, water, 11 x 20 loft with insulated room below, 1-16x12 insulated overhead door w/opener, 1-12x12 insulated overhead door, 5 windows, 1 man door.

I have about $28,000 into it was of today for everything. This includes site prep as I hauled in about $1,500 of sand.

D.
 

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That's ridiculous. I paid $4100 for materials and labor for guy to put up a 36'X32'X10' pole barn. That was the 6X6's, the strusses, and the metal roof.
 

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That's ridiculous. I paid $4100 for materials and labor for guy to put up a 36'X32'X10' pole barn. That was the 6X6's, the strusses, and the metal roof.

That's ridiculously cheap. Sure it wasn't bamboo walls and a thatch roof? j/k
 

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Got a quote for two 40x60x14s with two 14x16 doors, service door, steel lined ceiling, overhangs on all 4 sides. $35k pole barn with no concrete, $45k stick built with concrete. No excavation included for either.

That quote sounds REALLY high. We have a guy here who builds 30x40s and sells them on a lot for about $40-45k I think.
 

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I bought the 'kit' for my building for ~14.500. That included everything but concrete, and the second floor materials. It was another ~6000 for them to erect it. To date I'm just over 32k into it. See the build below. Also note this was a few years back.
 

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Not concerned with how much money people in "our area" (i am assuming you are in winnipeg as well), someone is profiting good chunk and is not the workers.
But that's business i guess. Pretty sure most of that companies work is commercial. My little shop dreams would be a waste of time. Lol.

It has everything to do with the topic at hand. You should be 'concerned' with it because if you want to sit back and pay someone to build your shop your going to be paying those wages. Labor is expensive here. So are materials

For example I see people talking on this site about getting slabs placed- the whole job, for less than the mud costs up here. Wpg- over $200/ yard, yet I see talk of less than $100 a yard on this site

That's ridiculous. I paid $4100 for materials and labor for guy to put up a 36'X32'X10' pole barn. That was the 6X6's, the strusses, and the metal roof.

And then you see posts like this. I bet you can't even buy tin & trim to cover a 36x32 for $4100 in Wpg


I assure you there is no 'good chunk of profit' in a job like that. Less than 5% once the dust settles and everyones paid, I guarantee it
 

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That's ridiculous. I paid $4100 for materials and labor for guy to put up a 36'X32'X10' pole barn. That was the 6X6's, the strusses, and the metal roof.

I'd REALLY like to know where this happened and more details.
 

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i would get a quote from star or even olympia
i had a buddy get a quote for a 24x28 stick framed garage from menards and it was 5500 and he got a quote from star and it was 5200 delivered for the same thing
 

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The quotes from posters that don't divulge their location are about as useful as second hand Charmin.

A pole building built last summer to Texas specs would have collapsed already under snow loads here, for example.
 

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That's ridiculous. I paid $4100 for materials and labor for guy to put up a 36'X32'X10' pole barn. That was the 6X6's, the strusses, and the metal roof.

I'll hire him to build full time and pay him twice that for every building. I'll be rich in no time. You can't buy the materials for that building for $4100.
 

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I paid 29/sq that included and extra 432 sq of exterior concrete as well as a 6x24 porch. no elec.
 

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I paid $22,000 in 2010 to have it built. It was 30 X40 X10 with steel truses. It included a 8 x 14 back room, a 6 x 10 front porch, 5" concrete, R-19 white vinyl insulation and concrete perma columns.
 
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It has everything to do with the topic at hand. You should be 'concerned' with it because if you want to sit back and pay someone to build your shop your going to be paying those wages. Labor is expensive here. So are materials

For example I see people talking on this site about getting slabs placed- the whole job, for less than the mud costs up here. Wpg- over $200/ yard, yet I see talk of less than $100 a yard on this site



And then you see posts like this. I bet you can't even buy tin & trim to cover a 36x32 for $4100 in Wpg


I assure you there is no 'good chunk of profit' in a job like that. Less than 5% once the dust settles and everyones paid, I guarantee it

So you are pretty knowledgeable in this. How much you figure a carpenter is making an hour? 50 bucks? Little more? Little less?

That's the next thing i have to find out. I'm not a carpenter. I can swing a hammer. But I'm not boring any walls on my own.
I'm pretty sure that I'll just get a shell built for me and go from there.

Your an electrical guy right? What kind of wages to they make? (Not you specifically, just in general) Probably end up getting help from friends for that one, but never know what i might need.

5% profit doesn't seem like much of a buisness.
But hey, what do i know. I'm not in the industry.

Edit: not sure if you are taking about tin and trim on an entire building, or just the roof of a 36x32.
but one of the material quotes i bit back is about 1.06 sq ft.
not sure the quality of it though.

Been thinking it may be advantageous to get some of the materials south of the border.
 
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For example I see people talking on this site about getting slabs placed- the whole job, for less than the mud costs up here. Wpg- over $200/ yard, yet I see talk of less than $100 a yard on this site

Concrete priced out at 259 per cubic meter today. Includes delivery and taxes.
I think that works out to less than 200 per yard. Not much. But still less.

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i think i will also post the quotes i have received on the building shops as well.
Let other people see what this are choosing at the moment in this area.

Looking online shopping at Menards will save me enough for a lift when is all done. Will wroth the extra effort to me
 
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In the process of building a 24x48x12 and completely finished with concrete will be less than 20k. I am doing it all myself with the exception of the flooring. A lot of price shopping, and Home Depot does price matching plus 10%.
 

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Well, the material price seems alright.

The labour seems a little high, however, it if I built a shop that would be pretty close. For example, my pad prep would be $5000 as I have 18" of topsoil to deal with. It would have to be stripped and a borrow pit dug to get clay material. water table is high and we would have to put concrete cookies in the post holes. Some of the American buildings look rickety to me given my experience with local conditions. They are perfectly fine for where they are being built.
 

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I always find it funny that people throw a fit about $30,000 for a permanent building that you'll have forever and adds considerably to your property value now and in the future, yet the same people have no problem with spending $40-50,000 on an SUV or truck that will lose 25-50% of it's value in the first 2 years, and will be virtually worthless in 15years.
 

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After overhead and expenses, contractor profits run between 5-12% depending on the size of the firm and profitability of the job.

Loaded labor rates have a multiplier of 2.6 to 3.0 typically. Large and small.
 
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