poly pulling line

[PoorOwner]

has anyone used this kind of plastic lines?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-500-ft-Pulling-Line-56108/100660158

Trying to pull 3 THWN in 1/2 EMT about 35 feet, few turns.

I was thinking I could use a vacuum **** the line so it pass through, then use that to pull the wires.

 

[AndyCBR]

Should work great just make sure to trim the head of the wire where you attach the line. IE make it as small as possible. A trick is to strip the wire back and cut about half of it off when you fold over the wire for the attachment.

Also, pulling lubricant is an important, often forgotten, step in a successful pull.

 

[PoorOwner]

I have the synthetic lube. Do I pull all 3 wires at the same time? they are 12 AWG

 

[walrus]

I have the synthetic lube. Do I pull all 3 wires at the same time? they are 12 AWG

Yes at same time, You shouldn't need lube for that pull. I buy that string in buckets, it works great. What you are doing is or should be an extremely easy pull

 

[DC73]

I was thinking I could use a vacuum **** the line so it pass through, then use that to pull the wires.

If you have a good compressed air source, you can sometimes blow a pulling line through easier than vacuuming because you can feed it with one hand while holding the air gun with the other.

I have the synthetic lube. Do I pull all 3 wires at the same time? they are 12 AWG

I would try all 3 first. Shouldn't be a problem. If you're not sure about the strength of the pulling line, you could use it to pull in a stronger rope and then use the rope to pull the 3 wires.

DC

 

[kd3pc]

I have the synthetic lube. Do I pull all 3 wires at the same time? they are 12 AWG

I was taught to stagger each wire in attaching it to the pulling eye, this gets all 3 wires, but has the bulge a 1/2" away from each other. Tape it and leave an ear on the tape to remove it. This keeps the head small, just in case. Pulling goop and good to go.

bests.

 

[tarmy]

That will work fine...I buy the 4000' tubs of the stuff...

**** it threw your conduit with a vacuum...put a line foam plug on end...about a buck or two on Amazon......regular vac can **** em hundreds of feet

 

[sberry]

3 wires threw 1/2 shouldn't need lube.

 

[OH_Varmntr]

What are the angles of the "few turns"?


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[toplessHO]

altho it wont happen here at only 35 ft
longer runs and 90* bends are trouble for "jetline" pulling line.
It can burn thru due to friction
for these I use mule tape which is a flat braided line thats marked for measuring
edit thats intended for PVC

 

[06 DIESEL]

To help vac the pull line thru take a plastic shopping bag and tie it to the end of the pulling line, and feed it into the conduit on one end. Vac from the other end and it will pull the line through very easily.

As said above, pull all three at once and stagger the tie points so that you do not get a large bulge in one spot.

 

[ForceFed70]

Good advice here - 06 Diesel has obviously worked with the pro's as that's exactly how we did it on the big commercial jobs I worked. For what you want to do, that line will work fine. For the longer pulls and/or when pulling more wire we'd 1st vacuum through this type of line, then use the line to pull through some 1/8" poly rope (1/4" if really getting big).

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

What works great is use waxed string tie on a wadded up plastic bag. Use shop vac from other end if it won't **** cut some of the plastic back. Once you have the wax string tie on some mule tape. Once that is pulled in tie on your cable. It doesn't hurt to stagger your cable as kd3pc mentioned. Taper the wire when tying on to mule tape. If in doubt of a tough pull use lubricant, easier than pulling back and not as nearly messy as the old lanolin base Yellow 77.

 

[Gmonkee]

I have a stiff wire snake and the nylon monofiliment snake.

The wire has gotten through multiple turns and made 3 wire pulls a lot easier. The nylon one doesn't like to turn corners.

I never tried that plastic pulling line stuff. Is it reliable in pulls that may get a little tight?

 

[ddawg16]

3 12AWG wires in 1/2" conduit? 35'?

You could 'almost' push it through.

That will be an easy pull. You could get a couple more wires in there...as in 6 more.

 

[walrus]

Its 3 #12s in 35 ft of conduit. I wouldn't even tie the wires to the string, black tape, good enough. Pull em thru, done. No need to stagger, no need to cut half the strands off, line the ends up, tape the **** out of them and the string and stuff them in while someone is pulling.

 

[Marctrees]

If you don't have any sort of fishtape, for 1/2 and 3/4 conduit, a cotton ball with a mason line tied on, and **** through w a shop vac.

Bigger pipe, vacuum Walmart bag w mason line, then pull bigger rope through w line.

Polypropylene line is best, does not stretch like nylon.

Works awesome. Marc

 

[larry4406]

I used 2 full sheets of newspaper, wadded into a ball, tied kite string to it, and sucked it thru 150' of 2" conduit slicker than S#*t. YMMV.

 

[jeffmoss26]

I have used thousands of feet of pull string for voice/data cabling but never in small conduits like you are suggesting. It should work though.

 

[PoorOwner]

I am using a vacuum (a garage vac, not a shop vac) it's has some suction on the other end, but was not enough to pull the string for me, at all, I would tape the vac on one end and then I go to the other end to feed the string, it's too limp and there is no assistance at all. This klein string is not as light weight as I thought.

The vac got hot quickly. I think the CFM is too reduced on the small 1/2" EMT.

I know I should have some cotton of bag attached to the string, I just don't have a good feeling it will pull it and it would get stuck.

There is 2 90 degree turns and 2 45 degree turns and just about 30 feet of run. I tried some trimmer line and I can only get pass 1 turn.

So any ideas without taking things apart? Will this let me poke and turn in 1/2" EMT?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-100-ft-Non-Conductive-Fiberglass-Fish-Tape-56023/203789548

 

[PoorOwner]

I think I will have to buy this one... I very much need to buy a bigger fish tape anyway. Do you think it will work?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003K4QTBW/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Late to the game

If the wire being used is the newer simpull® type wire made by southwire then lube is not necessary.

http://www.southwire.com/commercial/nolube-simpull-thhn-cable-revolutionizes-installations.htm

Also, you should stagger the wires- the 2nd and subsequent wires should be 5-6" from the head to make it easier to pull through elbows and couplings...

 

[PoorOwner]

Late to the game

If the wire being used is the newer simpull® type wire made by southwire then lube is not necessary.

http://www.southwire.com/commercial/nolube-simpull-thhn-cable-revolutionizes-installations.htm

Also, you should stagger the wires- the 2nd and subsequent wires should be 5-6" from the head to make it easier to pull through elbows and couplings...

I am trying to get a string or tape through the conduit so I can get my THHN wire through. I didn't think my conduit is much complex sorry that was 3 90s and 2 45s.. but the first 90 is pretty close so it should poke through easily.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

I **** a poly line string through and use that unless its larger conductors then pull a mule tape through with the poly line...

 

[PoorOwner]

thanks everyone. I was able to push a single THHN by wrapping the tip so it is blunt. It was catching and getting stuck alot. But after trying from either side, I got lucky and pushed it through. I will use this to bring the poly line through to pull the 3 wires together.