Polyaspartic Top Coat Failed to Cure

[Century]

I had an installer put in an epoxy base/flake/poly aspartic top coat system approximately one week ago in my 380sqft two-car garage.

The epoxy base and flake went down on the first day. He came back the next day to put down the clear polyaspartic top coat. He mixed it in two batches - first covered half of the garage, and then he tied in with the second batch. The plan was to come back the next day for a second coat of poly.

The majority of the floor cured just fine, but the left side middle was still tacky (approx 9'x5' area). He called his supplier and they suggested to continue going over top with the second coat of poly, stating that it should catalyze the tacky coat below and cure together.

It seemed to have done that, except for where the second coat bubbled. The bubbles formed an air gap, which once popped, revealed the tacky first coat below. There are quite a few of these in that area that was previously tacky.

What are my options here?

 

[bluedog225]

Do over. Sorry.

 

[kmacht]

Tell your installer to grind it off and start over. Why is this your problem to deal with?

 

[Century]

The rest of the floor has cured, apart from where these bubbles formed during the application of the second coat. Can these be cleaned out and recoated?

 

[bluedog225]

I’ve got no confidence in your basecoat.

Something went wrong. Whether it was the installer or the manufacture, doesn’t matter. Preparation is key. Your first coat of stuff is suspect. Why take a chance?

The passage of time not going to make it more likely for him to come back and fix it. Just the opposite.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

The rest of the floor has cured, apart from where these bubbles formed during the application of the second coat. Can these be cleaned out and recoated?

Trying to scrape off the uncured material and then re-coat and then make it look like it never happened...tough to do.
Furthermore, if all the uncured material is not accounted for it will contaminate the new material.

Sounds like a mixing issue.

 

[Sumboodie]

How the heck do you get 2 cars in a 320 sq ft garage?

 

[Century]

They agreed to redo the floor. I guess we'll see...

How the heck do you get 2 cars in a 320 sq ft garage?

It's 380 sq ft. Pretty standard around here for a residential 2 car.

 

[Sumboodie]

They agreed to redo the floor. I guess we'll see...



It's 380 sq ft. Pretty standard around here for a residential 2 car.

Sorry, was thinking of my shed which is 320. Barely could fit 1 car in there if I wanted.

 

[P0234]

Sorry, was thinking of my shed which is 320. Barely could fit 1 car in there if I wanted.

You are lucky if you find a new build in my area bigger than 20*20. I parked three cars, six bikes, yard tools, trash and recycling container, two kayaks, a big canoe and a bunch of other **** in a garage the size of OPs.

 

[Sumboodie]

You are lucky if you find a new build in my area bigger than 20*20. I parked three cars, six bikes, yard tools, trash and recycling container, two kayaks, a big canoe and a bunch of other **** in a garage the size of OPs.

BMW Isettas don't count!

 

[P0234]

BMW Isettas don't count!

An ML350, an E350 and a C6 Vette. Some folks are spoiled with big garages, but you can make a smaller garage work as well.

 

[dcg9381]

"Garages don't sell houses"

Well, except on GJ.

 

[P0234]

"Garages don't sell houses"

Well, except on GJ.

So true, one of the main reasons I moved was for more garage. An annoying neighbor was the catalyst that helped sway the wife (and me) to start packing.

 

[Garcky]

What will fit in any garage depends in large part what kind of vehicles you're parking in it. I have a 21' x21' garage. It has plastic storage shelf units along the side walls, and a work table and shelf units along the back wall. We park two cars in there with room to walk on both sides of the cars and between them. We can walk around them at front and rear with the garage door down, too. However, I sold a 1993 Ranger XLT extended-cab pickup, because it would not fit into the garage. Too long. The other car was a 2020 KIA Soul, which fits just fine on one side. I replace the Ranger with a Chevy Trax, which is not much bigger than the Soul, if any. So, we have plenty of room. If there was nothing on the back wall, the Ranger would have fit in there, but there is stuff back there.

If you have a big-*** SUV and a big-*** pickup, a 20x20 garage isn't going to let you put them both in there. That's simply the case. So, if you are stuck with a smaller garage and can't add to it, buy smaller vehicles. Problem solved.

When you go house hunting, keep in mind what needs to go into the garage. If you choose the wrong house, you might end up having to get different vehicles or parking outdoors. That's just the reality of it.

 

[Sumboodie]

An ML350, an E350 and a C6 Vette. Some folks are spoiled with big garages, but you can make a smaller garage work as well.

I just have a big yard... haven't been able to park in the garage since about 2011. Haha

 

[Andy Smith Jr.]

That is bad advice from manufacturer. Curious to which manufacture recommended that so I can stay away lol.

 

[bluedog225]

They agreed to redo the floor. I guess we'll see...

Excellent. Good they are not walking away.

 

[DaleCarter]

"Garages don't sell houses"

Well, except on GJ.

I sold my Dad’s house last year after he downsized for retirement. He had an oversized 2-car on the main level, complete with baseboards, crown mounding and granite counters on the “work”benches, courtesy of the previous owner. On the basement level he had three 2-car garage doors and enough depths to park cars two-deep, so a 12 car garage, effectively. The realtor didn’t even list the downstairs garages. After a few weeks of NO interest, I had her change the listing to replace pics of three of the seven generic bedrooms with pics of the downstairs garage, additional workshop area and 30a/208v outlets. We had three offers within a week

 

[dcg9381]

I sold my Dad’s house last year after he downsized for retirement.

I'm not always on MLS shopping for houses, but when I do, I start with number of garage spaces and seek the keyword "shop"!

 

[ZRX61]

Holy ****, ya got enough flakes on that floor??

 

[P0234]

Holy ****, ya got enough flakes on that floor??

That's how they do it these days. The bumpy profile helps make the floor more grippy. My previous floor was like glass when dry and like ice when wet. New floor is pretty much all flakes with some clear on top, doesn't look as good but it works better.

 

[P0234]

Holy threadjack....

 

[Armorpoxy]

Normally when curing issues occur it's a remove and replace situation. Adding more material never causes what's under it to cure.

 

[FlaGman]

How is an uncured coating removed? I would think if a grinding pad were used it would gum up immediately, is it scraped or chemically stripped?

 

[Armorpoxy]

Coatings are removed normally with a diamond grinder which can handle sticky coatings. Somtimes sand gets tossed on the floor to help things along. A screed or sanding pad won't work to remove any coating.

 

[CJDave]

"Garages don't sell houses"

Well, except on GJ.

Our first house, we are still there, has a 20' deep by 25' wide garage. We picked the biggest garage the builder offered attached to a house that we liked in the neighborhood we desired. Garages do sell houses. Sometimes. CJDave.