Poor Mans Storage Lift

[glmron]

Needed more storage space so I came up with this.

 

[mike93lx]

"poor man" and storing over 5000lbs at height are probably not a great combo.

If you are happy with it, great. I would not go under that

 

[Bigblockyeti]

That looks like a Darwin experiment.

 

[Innovate1]

Is the blue column a lift? I have been thinking about ways to get things to truck bed height for loading and unloading... Not at all familiar with lifts so this may be a dumb question.

 

[alfazer]

I would have thought it easier to put the lawn tractors above the pickup than below.

 

[protegeV]

um....

 

[CJseven]

Ever crushed a soda can, pretty strong till you put a tiny dent in the side.

 

[glmron]

Is the blue column a lift? I have been thinking about ways to get things to truck bed height for loading and unloading... Not at all familiar with lifts so this may be a dumb question.

Single post portable lift.

 

[GRivera]

I would have thought it easier to put the lawn tractors above the pickup than below.

Smart fella here!

 

[glmron]

I would have thought it easier to put the lawn tractors above the pickup than below.

It is not....

 

[mike93lx]

It is not....

Hell of a lot less dangerous though

 

[zkdiesel]

Hell of a lot less dangerous though

I’d do it with different items as stands other than those barrels.

 

[MrSurly]

I am gettin' the heebie-jeebies just looking at that.

My concern is the expected failure mode. It isn't likely that you'll have a drum slowly deflect and slowly crush; It is very likely that the failure will be a sudden crush of one front barrel followed immediately by the crush of the other front barrel. This will very likely result (because the barrels will 'cant' when they crush) in the whole truck lurching a couple of feet forward and sideways, off the rear barrels in the process. The *SUDDENESS* with which this could occur scares the **** outta me, to be honest.


PLEASE, please undo this

 

[CJseven]

i am gettin' the heebie-jeebies just looking at that.

My concern is the expected failure mode. It isn't likely that you'll have a drum slowly deflect and slowly crush; it is very likely that the failure will be a sudden crush of one front barrel followed immediately by the crush of the other front barrel. This will very likely result (because the barrels will 'cant' when they crush) in the whole truck lurching a couple of feet forward and sideways, off the rear barrels in the process. The *suddeness* with which this could occur scares the **** outta me, to be honest.


Please, please undo this

exactly!!

 

[Falcon67]

While I cringe at looking at the setup, the barrels that my VP fuel comes in are very substantial and 4 would easily support 5000lbs. They use very thick steel walls and are heavy even empty, unlike many other "regular" 55 gallon barrels.

Still, I can think of how scary it would be to either get something up there or worse IMHO, try to get it down.

 

[MrSurly]

While I cringe at looking at the setup, the barrels that my VP fuel comes in are very substantial and 4 would easily support 5000lbs. They use very thick walls and are heavy even empty, unlike many other "regular" 55 gallon barrels.

But what do you know about OP's barrels?

 

[glmron]

I am gettin' the heebie-jeebies just looking at that.

My concern is the expected failure mode. It isn't likely that you'll have a drum slowly deflect and slowly crush; It is very likely that the failure will be a sudden crush of one front barrel followed immediately by the crush of the other front barrel. This will very likely result (because the barrels will 'cant' when they crush) in the whole truck lurching a couple of feet forward and sideways, off the rear barrels in the process. The *SUDDENESS* with which this could occur scares the **** outta me, to be honest.


PLEASE, please undo this

Barrels have no problem handling the weight, you can grab the barrel under the front wheel and actually move it around.

 

[JRC3]

Think I'd trust cinder blocks more than drums.



And I actually do trust these even more. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunex-1410...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


Also, are you an organ donor?

 

[matt_i]

That's wild. Did you roll the truck over to that point with wheels slightly off the ground? Reason I ask is that the driver's door is quite close to the wall.

What is the make and model of that device?

 

[glmron]

That's wild. Did you roll the truck over to that point with wheels slightly off the ground? Reason I ask is that the driver's door is quite close to the wall.

What is the make and model of that device?

https://www.redlinestands.com/catal...-low-profile-single-column-6000-lb-lift-p-917

 

[Tracs]

Not my cup of tea.

 

[JRC3]

https://www.redlinestands.com/catal...-low-profile-single-column-6000-lb-lift-p-917

I would love one instead of a mid-lift, but way more expensive. A one post lift and a set of the stands I posted would be awesome.

 

[Ironcrow]

See any collapsing drums here?

 

[glmron]

I would love one instead of a mid-lift, but way more expensive. A one post lift and a set of the stands I posted would be awesome.

This is my set up for working on my cars. Extremely stable with the jack stands.

 

[MrSurly]

Barrels have no problem handling the weight, you can grab the barrel under the front wheel and actually move it around.

Well this has me curious. You can move one of the barrels around. or ALL of them? I'm pretty sure your '76 Chevy C10 weighs the same 4500 pounds mine did. I mean, if one of the barrels is NOT loaded then the other front barrel is loaded *more*

 

[Bigblockyeti]

See any collapsing drums here?

No, don't see any used ones either.

 

[MrSurly]

No, don't see any used ones either.

Or even *full* ones. A most pointless post.

 

[glmron]

Well this has me curious. You can move one of the barrels around. or ALL of them? I'm pretty sure your '76 Chevy C10 weighs the same 4500 pounds mine did. I mean, if one of the barrels is NOT loaded then the other front barrel is loaded *more*

The weight is spread pretty even, there is about 1200 lbs on each barrel.

The barrels don't even know there is a truck on them.

 

[bradpac]

https://www.iopp.org/files/public/Alert_15-03_Steel_Drum_Stacking_Considerations.pdf

With a little searching per the International Steel Drum Institute (no, I didn't make that up) 55 gallon drums are specced for 4 high stacking filled with a material up to 1.5x specific gravity (weight of water) and 3 high if over 1.5x

So, the weight of water 8.34lbs x 3 = 1376lbs x 1.5 = 2,064lbs.

Carry on sir.

 

[protegeV]

https://www.iopp.org/files/public/Alert_15-03_Steel_Drum_Stacking_Considerations.pdf

With a little searching per the International Steel Drum Institute (no, I didn't make that up) 55 gallon drums are specced for 4 high stacking filled with a material up to 1.5x specific gravity (weight of water) and 3 high if over 1.5x

So, the weight of water 8.34lbs x 3 = 1376lbs x 1.5 = 2,064lbs.

Carry on sir.

I think it actually looks sketchier than it is, but those numbers are for filled barrels. I'm assuming the OP's barrel are empty and thus easier to crush the sides in.

 

[MrSurly]

The weight is spread pretty even, there is about 1200 lbs on each barrel.

The barrels don't even know there is a truck on them.

Well, feel free to continue as you wish. Reading what you wrote reminds me (far too precisely) of the guy who places a heavy load in the back of a pickup and then (presumably based on the sheer weight of the item) proclaims loudly "that ain't goin' nowhere!" and then doesn't bother so much with straps and things due to this assessment.
Now, you are *probably* 100% correct that this drum idea will work... but your idea that the weight is "distributed evenly" and the drums "don't even know there's a truck" is some backwoods eyeball-engineering BS. Weight distribution on that truck is more like 60/40 I'd bet and the drums are certainly loaded....because physics doesn't kid around.
But that's OK, you do what you wish. I just don't think it's a great idea.

 

[RedVise]

Well, points for the barrels being painted the same, you know...

Brian

 

[MrSurly]

Side note: When I was a kid, there was a guy in our neighborhood who swapped the transmission in his Series 62 Caddy after supporting the massive car with four stacks of seven or eight *wooden* Coke flats. It worked. But that doesn't make it a good idea. (waiting for the Soda Flat Constructor's Guild to weigh in...)

 

[sweetk30]

all i can say is i want the rims off the truck for my 2wd c10 . love me some old school turbine rims .

 

[JRC3]

55 gallon drum crusher. Automatic controls, 53,000 lbs of force, 5" cylinder, 15hp motor.

So I wonder how much pressure it takes at the very top of the crush.




Short vids of drums getting crushed with loaders and forklifts and stuff.

This one made me laugh for some reason



Maybe they are stronger than they look.

 

[Lotek]

As someone who works under cars every day, and has worked in the past on some sketchy hoists...that makes me cringe.

 

[MrSurly]

A major concern when one thinks about how strong a drum might be is the assumption that a 'drum is a drum is a drum' and that's quite a bit wrong. From info someone provided above, some 55g drums are only 0.7 millimeters thick while some are as much as Three Times that thickness. Which drum do you have? Do you actually know?
0.027", about 23gauge. Think about that.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

I think it actually looks sketchier than it is, but those numbers are for filled barrels. I'm assuming the OP's barrel are empty and thus easier to crush the sides in.

Fill them with water

 

[b-boy]

To me, it's all about the weight distribution. If the forces are perfectly aligned, you're good. If not, you're not good. Without understanding all the forces, you're just guessing.

 

[motophile]

Just thinking out loud, would the doubters feel better if they were pressurized. A steel airbag if you will.