Pop Rivet threaded inset use ?

[Downwindtracker 2]

Any thing special I should be aware of ?

 

[FigN⋅m]

You mean like a RivNut?


Use in what way? Installation? Torque? Applied Use? All of the above?

 

[Downwindtracker 2]

Installation into sheet metal. I'm hanging a new control valve on the back of a fireplace/heater. The old Belgium made one packed it in. Since there are no parts available , I'm using a NA made Robert Shaw. That's how they hung the original, of course the holes don't line up. chuckle.

 

[GeoBruin]

What kind of tool are you using to install them? You can use anything from a bolt, nut, and a spacer to hand tools to electric and pneumatic tools.

I guess my advise is only pull them as tight as is needed to clamp well and keep from spinning. Especially for smaller sizes, pulling them too hard can cause them to warp and your fastener won't go in properly.

 

[Downwindtracker 2]

Just a lever hand tool, like the common pop rivet tool. I had to buy one today. 5mm bolt size.

 

[djjsr]

Practice on a piece of scrap sheet metal first. You'll find the tool is pretty easy to use.

 

[Stubby1743]

Cheap insertion tools can have difficulty tightly squeezing stainless steel Rivnuts if that is what you are using.

 

[FigN⋅m]

Just a lever hand tool, like the common pop rivet tool. I had to buy one today. 5mm bolt size.

They typically work well, just take the extra time to set the mandrel depth and limit bolt (if applicable)

 

[Downwindtracker 2]

I got the couple planted. They were for an 5mm bolt. But my old hands didn't have the squeeze strength . I had to use a couple of cheater pipes. If I was to do more, I would get a HD double lever style like I have for large pop rivets .

 

[KnurledNut]

I know there are a lot of fast and fancy tools, but I like hand setting rivet nuts. I’m not using them in a production setting where speed and repetitive fatigue are considerations.
I have done a lot of commercial door hardware and sometimes these are a retrofitting solution. Most recently, I used them to repair aluminum running boards where the steel mounting fasteners had corroded and broke off the factory rivet nuts. That was a fun job.

 

[FigN⋅m]

Anyways, here’s a little kit I threw together last year:
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Nice kit!
I think (for me) that certain sizes/applications dictate tool type or use.
If I'm dropping 2 dozen lil' guys in a vehicle's roof - I want some mechanical help,
but the larger ones tend to like a little more finesse that I feel more comfortable
using wrenches to control the squeeze rate etc.

 

[no704]

I used to install lots of these. Astro tools drill adapter driver is hands down the best tool for them!

 

[WildBill]

I used to install lots of these. Astro tools drill adapter driver is hands down the best tool for them!

Oh good, another tool I now have to buy. I been getting hand cramps putting in stainless bastards forever. Thanks from me, no thanks from my poor wallet.

 

[no704]

Last I checked it’s only around $100 for the one that does up to 5/16 I think. Maybe it includes 3/8? Been a few years.

 

[no704]

 

[Rockable]

What kind of tool are you using to install them? You can use anything from a bolt, nut, and a spacer to hand tools to electric and pneumatic tools.

I guess my advise is only pull them as tight as is needed to clamp well and keep from spinning. Especially for smaller sizes, pulling them too hard can cause them to warp and your fastener won't go in properly.

And you could "pop" your mandrel.

 

[Downwindtracker 2]

It's pretty easy to strip aluminum.

 

[danielbuck]

I use them alot in various sizes. I use the serrated steel ones from mcmaster. really the main thing to look out for is get the correct grip size for the thickness of material you're working with. and practice on a few so you know how tight they need to be. Try to get your hole drilled to the correct size so that they just snugly slide in, and don't wobble about.

I install them either with a pneumatic gun, or with a drill attachment (both from Astro). I find them alot easier to use and more consistant then the manual installers.

to help from stripping, I've always put red locktite on the serrated grip just prior to installing, thought I'm not really sure if this helps much or not, it does give me a bit of piece of mind. I've never had one strip and spin though. and any bolt that gets threaded into them, use a small amount of anti-seize.

 

[tarbellb]

I have both a very nice hand op hydraulic version and the HF lopper style,
dont sleep on the HF lopper its a fine tool for the price

 

[cannuck]

For very infrequent use, pretty hard to beat a nut-and-bolt tool. A bit of care and hardened and lubricated washers and any nut and bolt can be called into service. The low buck, single lever hand squeezers tend to be good for only a small number of good pulls. Get up into the $100 compound lever range and you will have a small volume up to 3/8 and 10mm useful tool for life.

 

[no704]

Takes a little playing around, but once you have your drill clutch set properly it works great! One of the few times I’ve found a drill clutch to be useful!

 

[danielbuck]

Takes a little playing around, but once you have your drill clutch set properly it works great! One of the few times I’ve found a drill clutch to be useful!

for both the drill type, and the pneumatic type, it's well worth sacrificing a few rivet nuts to dial in the torque.

 

[ToolPolisher]

I've just become accustomed to using a 1/4" socket on a 1/4" ratchet on the end of the Astro tool. Gives you that tactile feedback but with the mechanical advantages.