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looking for any ideas on making a pop up camper from compact truck topper.
Thinking maybe gas struts or manual struts,some filler skirting panels made from marine grade vinyl like Naugahyde .
 
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If you take a look on Expo Portal there are a few people that have done this. A topper that can lift a couple feet off the bed. There is a company that does it as well. It seemed that the cost was close to a used pop-up camper type price.
 
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yea I looked at the one that used linear actuators
seemed like overkill for as light as this topper is,hence why I was thinking of gas struts
just have no idea what the longest and strongest ones are.
since the topper has no provisions for screens may use nylon screen for skirting and have the vinyl skirting for inclement weather
 

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I’ve actually thought on this.
I’d look into a full length piano hinge on the long side. Lift assist with gas struts.
A triangular solid filler agaist the cab with window to access the cab from inside.
Some type of campy canvas on the long lifted side that attaches under the topper and over the truck bed to shed water. Could use magnets along the bed to seal.
Then a filler on the gate side? Another funky triangle? Canvas? Some funky 3 piece hinged thing with door?
Do we need a sketch?
 

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Super accurate design sketch.
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Im not much of an artist but heres a quick sketch
on a quest now for some long gas struts.
looks like 7/8" unistrut will wok fine for the C channel
this version wouldnt hinge but would use 4 struts
 

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thinking more I may want to limit the lateral travel a little toward the end of stroke so that the struts arent completely perpendicular to the rail. This will add some stability so that it wont try and topple over forward or backward
 

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Going straight up definitely gives you the most head room, but with it comes the complication of raising and stability.
I’m all in for following this project!
 

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What’s the plan to close the top? Being vertical, there isn’t mechanical advantage like there is with say a hood. Linear actuators power in and out so they wouldn’t have the closing issue
SUSPA is a manufacturer of gas struts. Decent website and phone service


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for closing Im thinking one person on each side. Theres always going to be 2 when camping.
Was thinking at first to have struts heavy like 150#(600# total) but rethinking that for ease of closing and perhaps use 4 mechanical props to lock the struts while extended. so maybe more like 60# each which would ease lowering but still be enough to help raise it.
I went on one site and longest I could find was 34 inches total with about 15 inches of extension. would like a little more that that so I can use about a 45* angle.
 

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I think the gas struts will be problematic in the long run, cold camping, leakage with age, too strong or not strong enough...etc. I think for simplicity and dependability simple manual is the way to go. I think the relatively cheap arms below could be modified (shortened and modified for interior usage) to work for this project and get it going faster. Perhaps some struts could be added later just to assist and offset the top weight but not have any structural responsibility. Of course if the project itself is more entertainment for you than actually camping then disregard.

C&R lift kit
 
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really dont want to mount something externally on a S10 Xtreme,its still got some style to it.This is a dual purpose truck,weekend camping and weekday cruiser. Topper comes off in a couple minutes. Cold weather? whats that we live in central Florida. If its cool we head south to the Keys. I think the gas struts will be fine,most likely outgrow the camper before the struts wear out
 

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really dont want to mount something externally on a S10 Xtreme,its still got some style to it.This is a dual purpose truck,weekend camping and weekday cruiser. Topper comes off in a couple minutes. Cold weather? whats that we live in central Florida. If its cool we head south to the Keys. I think the gas struts will be fine,most likely outgrow the camper before the struts wear out

Well, just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting that you mount them outside (fugly for sure), just like you weren't planning on mounting the struts on the outside either. I was thinking that only the pivot points and the clasps (of the supports I was suggesting) would need to be permanently installed on the inside of the truck bed. If you have a hinge on one side and struts on the other, that should work as long as a strong wind doesn't come along and close you up while sleeping. If you plan on raising the whole top with just a gas strut in each corner for support....I see a shaky unstable top.
...or I just don't understand what your plan is. Probably the latter. Please post up some construction photos and camping pictures for us!:thumbup:
 

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I have seen a few pop up campers and they had rope? at the center of the top to all four corners pull the rope down and it lifts straight up.
I have a Hospital bed that is 2' long with a crank handle to raise and lower all four corners with a cable and tube in tube; may be the same principle? makes a nice adjustable table:thumbup:
Also interested in what you come up with, been collecting pieces for something similar.
 
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How about doing it like a VW bus camper?

look at pic and youll see theres hardly any room between cab and front of topper.no room to tilt. The side tilt is a good idea but I think going straight up
will be alot easier on fabrication of skirting/tent
my thought on stabilizing is to use tubing at all 4 corners in addition to the struts. These would slide thru a larger piece of tubing thats attached to the strut.
 

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look at pic and youll see theres hardly any room between cab and front of topper.no room to tilt. The side tilt is a good idea but I think going straight up
will be alot easier on fabrication of skirting/tent
my thought on stabilizing is to use tubing at all 4 corners in addition to the struts. These would slide thru a larger piece of tubing thats attached to the strut.
I didn't mean to tilt the whole topper, I meant to cut the roof.
 

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I would think a design with just simple fold out legs and a skirt around the edge would work. Make legs that fold down that have pivots, lift one side up and put it on the legs, then go lift the other side up and put it on the legs and maybe have another piece to triangulate it for stability. I think going straight up with gas struts will end up being more trouble than its worth, especially a couple of years down the road.
 
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you guys are real good at spending someone elses money :^))
If anyone knows of an application that uses struts about 30-40 inches extended
please post a link.
 

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Dreamer.....

Imo anything that uses fabric is no good...glorified tent. Rain, mildew, rot, flapping in high wind, not classified as 'hard side' when campgrounds are restricted due to bears, etc etc etc. May as well just keep the topper solid in case the weather hits the fan, and pack a nice roomy tent and use that weather permitting.
 

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Old thread, but I'll put in a coupla cents. I'd like to do something like this, only with hard sides. My old Apache pop-up had panels that dropped inward as you lowered the top. I've also thought about building an A-frame pop-up. There's a company that makes them, but way out of my budget. The center of the roof lifts up to form a letter 'A', and hard panels fold up and out to support the roof. Maybe build it on top of an old canvas pop-up. As I get older, and thinking about heavy weather or wild animals, the idea of canvas doesn't appeal to me as much.

That being said, I also had an idea for a teardrop camper. Classic canned ham shape, split along the beltline. Hinged in the front; the back raises up to give standing headroom. A canvas filler panel fills the gap. In really bad weather, you wouldn't have to pop it up.
 

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Old thread, but I'll put in a coupla cents. I'd like to do something like this, only with hard sides. My old Apache pop-up had panels that dropped inward as you lowered the top. I've also thought about building an A-frame pop-up. There's a company that makes them, but way out of my budget. The center of the roof lifts up to form a letter 'A', and hard panels fold up and out to support the roof. Maybe build it on top of an old canvas pop-up. As I get older, and thinking about heavy weather or wild animals, the idea of canvas doesn't appeal to me as much.

That being said, I also had an idea for a teardrop camper. Classic canned ham shape, split along the beltline. Hinged in the front; the back raises up to give standing headroom. A canvas filler panel fills the gap. In really bad weather, you wouldn't have to pop it up.
You could keep it down while you were sleeping too, because you wouldn’t be walking around in your sleep. That way you don’t have to worry about wild animals in the middle of the night. I like it.
 

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I think the best is the plain old 'muffin top' design like an Alaskan camper. Much easier to keep out moisture etc. Other 'expedition' style rigs use that design as well.

I am drawn to the hard side a frame style as well, but I know Aliner camper trailers (which use that design) are notorious for becoming moldy petri dishes. Too many exposed joints I guess. Some guys even take an Aliner and put it onto a big flatbed truck.
 
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Plan B was we bought neighbors full size GMC after he passed away and it has a nice topper with the rear portion 5 ft high.
Kids are happy with that,having built benches that convert to a bed in back etc.
 

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Plan B was we bought neighbors full size GMC after he passed away and it has a nice topper with the rear portion 5 ft high.
Kids are happy with that,having built benches that convert to a bed in back etc.

So I was right when I said you'd never get those struts to work. :evil::lol_hitti

Thanks for getting back to us. :thumbup:
 

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Those high rise toppers are the knees. We have one with a sleeping platform and two full length/width 10" deep drawers underneath. We've logged a lot of nights back there.
 
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