Ok so here is the deal in the summer around August I painted my 5 year old concrete floor with a oil based paint. Dumb I know. I did the cleaning acid etch and even scuffed it up with a floor sander, but in some spots I have quarter size pieces that peeled up. I have about 4000 sqft of tile (dad works construction and it was left over from a huge job) the tile is a heavy duty commercial grade porcelain. My question is with our weather how will the tile hold up and as for the existing paint what should I do with it scuff it up or do I have to remove it all. Thank in advance for the help
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Porcelain Tile In Chicago
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Bill Bowman
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I'm not a tile pro, however, the end result can only be as good as the surface it's bonded to. That said, if the coating on the floor isn't holding to the concrete, won't the tile pop up at some point in the very near future?
Let me rephrase that. It's not a matter of if the tile will pop up, but when the tile will pop up. I would think at minimum, bare concrete, possibly etched, would be a good surface for tile of any kind. Bill
Let me rephrase that. It's not a matter of if the tile will pop up, but when the tile will pop up. I would think at minimum, bare concrete, possibly etched, would be a good surface for tile of any kind. Bill
KPSquared
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Get rid of the paint. Like was said above. . .if it's coming up now, it will come up under the tile.
What do you mean "how will the tile hold up" ? Like will the tile it's self fail? My vote is no. You will be able to do anything and everything on that tile and as long as you install it properly, you will be a very happy person.
Heated garage I assume?
Good thing you came to Garage Journal first this time!
What do you mean "how will the tile hold up" ? Like will the tile it's self fail? My vote is no. You will be able to do anything and everything on that tile and as long as you install it properly, you will be a very happy person.
Heated garage I assume?
Good thing you came to Garage Journal first this time!
I plan on stripping and sanding the floor. My question I guess was more about will the cold hurt it. The garage is not heated it is attached to the house and is fully dry walled and insulated though. I live in a town house and can not install a gas heater due to the venting would alter the outside look so I am in the process of looking for some electric option
KPSquared
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You have to have tiles that are rated for cold. I believe there is thinset that is better suited for cold weather as well.
Do some reading on here. I know it has been touched on in several threads. I don't believe I've read anything about an un-heated garage with tile in a cold climate.
Time to do some more research before you pull the trigger. . .don't want to end up disappointed again!
Do some reading on here. I know it has been touched on in several threads. I don't believe I've read anything about an un-heated garage with tile in a cold climate.
Time to do some more research before you pull the trigger. . .don't want to end up disappointed again!
zxttfan
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I plan on stripping and sanding the floor. My question I guess was more about will the cold hurt it. The garage is not heated it is attached to the house and is fully dry walled and insulated though. I live in a town house and can not install a gas heater due to the venting would alter the outside look so I am in the process of looking for some electric option
Electric radiant floor heat under the tile might be an option then.
Don't worry about the cold, especially if your tile is commercial grade. If the paint is solid, I would leave that too. 30% of my garage still had paint on the floor. I scuffed it up a bit, and cleaned off the peeling pieces. All good. Tile usually does not want to jump off the floor. Unless your paint coat is very thick, i would not worry about it.
Laticrete / keralastic thinset additive is the ****. Use that when you set tile. It is like milk, and makes the bond like no other.
Laticrete / keralastic thinset additive is the ****. Use that when you set tile. It is like milk, and makes the bond like no other.
85camaro
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Do not set tile over paint, sheetrock, dust, sealants, epoxy, curing compounds or anything that could disrupt a strong bond.
Latex additives or latex modified thin sets are not a replacement for unsuitable substrates.
Paint can usually be scraped off sufficiently to install tile. Concrete with curing compounds, epoxy, sealants, etc., should be removed by scarifying the floor with a grinder.
Proper prep work of any cracks or control joints is extremely important for any tile installation. If the tile is going to be exposed to extreme variances in temperature, or will be installed outdoors, then the proper latex additive with the proper mortar is important.
Failure to use the proper latex additive with the correct mortar can still result in failure in the installation even if the floor and cracks are properly prepped.
Latex additives or latex modified thin sets are not a replacement for unsuitable substrates.
Paint can usually be scraped off sufficiently to install tile. Concrete with curing compounds, epoxy, sealants, etc., should be removed by scarifying the floor with a grinder.
Proper prep work of any cracks or control joints is extremely important for any tile installation. If the tile is going to be exposed to extreme variances in temperature, or will be installed outdoors, then the proper latex additive with the proper mortar is important.
Failure to use the proper latex additive with the correct mortar can still result in failure in the installation even if the floor and cracks are properly prepped.
jesse83
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Are you willing to sell/give away some of that extra tile???
yeah apparently all of it (give a way) since he lives in a townhouse... to whoever moves into that townhouse next... I would maintain it but wouldn't put the time or effort into going much beyond that in that sort of living arrangement unless the landlord/complex owner is offering reimbursement whether in cash or via rent reductions
mtwaterguy
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yeah apparently all of it (give a way) since he lives in a townhouse... to whoever moves into that townhouse next... I would maintain it but wouldn't put the time or effort into going much beyond that in that sort of living arrangement unless the landlord/complex owner is offering reimbursement whether in cash or via rent reductions
You can't purchase townhouses in Il?
KPSquared
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That's what I was thinking. . .you can sure own them here. Pretty standard starter homes.
I own the town home. I have no land lord its a 2400sq ft home. I'm 23 so buying a house didn't appeal to me i would rather not maintain a yard and such. As for the tile i have started this over the weekend and will post pictures soon. I will have alot of tile and grout left over so if anyone is looking to do a 2 car garage in porcelain tile let me know id sell it for cheap