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porch addition 2

billconner

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I think I know the answer but I guess hoping someone can convince me I'm wrong.

Wrap around porch about 6 1/2 ft deep. Ledger on top of foundation wall, and 6x6 pt posts along perimeter - about 6 1/2" o.c.

I want to put a 13 x 6 1/2 foot extension on middle of long - 26 ft - side, basically 2 bays by 1 bay deep.

So, do I dare support half of extension on existing 6x6 posts, not knowing how deep or what they sit on? I'd like to just stiffen edge beam and treat it like a ledger for extension, with three new posts (probably concrete in so you've above grade with post anchors) and a beam. What are odds existing piers will support another 2000 to 2500 pounds (center pier of 3 with max live load and snow load). I'd say it was medium to coarse sand with just a trace of salt - so probably good for 3000 to 4000 psf minimum.

I can put in two more piers a foot or so from existing porch and a beam so they are taking the floor load, but roof load would still be on existing posts atop existing piers.

Trying to figure out if I can/should just do 12" sonotube or put in a 18 to 24" footing and do 8" tube on it. And at our age - doubt we're in this house more 10 years - I could just do a footing - even gravel - and PT 6x6s in the ground. Excellent draining at top of a long sandy slope. Might wrap them with post saver, and/or order better posts - UC4B - with lots more chemical in it.

But primary question remains about adding load to existing.
 
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firebirdparts

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I can't imagine that there's not something in the ground there, but I guess you could try to get 10 big heavy people to group hug and jump on that center post and see if it moves. If you're at all in doubt.
 
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billconner

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I can't imagine that there's not something in the ground there, but I guess you could try to get 10 big heavy people to group hug and jump on that center post and see if it moves. If you're at all in doubt.
It's easy to be conservative and assume max snow load and live load but all that seems so improbable. And digging to find out what's under post seems tedious. I'd never worry about live load as long as we live here but if next owners through big dance parties - the kind where decks fail - should I worry about that.

Maybe submit plans for permit and see if it raises a flag.
 
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