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Portable Generator Transfer Switch

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Hey gents,

I live in south Louisiana and just went through hurricane Delta, I ended up buying a 7500 watt (9000 surge) portable generator and just used extension cords to power the essentials in the house until commercial power came back on. The generator has a 50 amp plug (14-50R style) and I would like to power the entire panel, I've researched this a little bit and see that the interlock option and backfeeding the panel via the interlocked breaker is the most cost effective method to power all circuits and not having to install one of those transfer switch panels with only 6 or 10 circuits. The major appliances in the house are gas except for the dryer but I think the generator can handle it if I'm careful about what else I have running. I don't plan on trying to run the central AC even though I probably have a 1 or 2 ton unit, will just use window units during emergencies.

I have heard about the main breaker failing and having the potential to backfeed the pole even thought the main is turned off, so without having to pull my panel cover off and checking for voltage on the main lugs after disconnecting the main breaker, can I install some other sort of "transfer switch" on the exterior of the house to manually switch between utility and generator power instead of going the interlock breaker method? If so, are these pretty pricey? I've looked into the generlink meter box transfer switch but those are pretty expensive VS going the interlock breaker route. Thanks!
 
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pattenp

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Go with the main breaker interlock. The odds of the main failing is slim to none. I've been using an interlock for 20+ years and never heard of the main breaker failing to cause back feeding.
 

JOE.G

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What happens if you don't unbond it? I did unbond mine and I have it hooked up with A Main interlock and this sends power to my whole box. I also have a 7500 Run and a 9,000 Surge.
 
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AP514

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going to have the Real Sparkies explain this one. I have the idea but I am sure they can tell it a lot better.
 

theoldwizard1

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... I've researched this a little bit and see that the interlock option and backfeeding the panel via the interlocked breaker is the most cost effective method to power all circuits ...
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I have heard about the main breaker failing and having the potential to backfeed the pole even thought the main is turned off, ...
Never heard of a main breaker failing ! If it jams, you won't be able to enable the external feed from the generator.

Any other solution would be more expensive.

Don't bet on that generator being able to run your whole house A/C, at least not without a "real" soft starter like a MicroAir EasyStart™ 368

Also, the term "backfeed" has bad connotations. It is usually associated with "suicide cords" ! :scared: :shocking:
 
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10-4 thanks guys, I'll probably just go with the interlock breaker route and also unbond the neutral in the generator, thanks for the tips! That soft starter is a small investment to be able to run the central AC, might have to splurge on something like that!
 

stickshift

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Looks like having multiple ground/neutral bonds in a power system can cause multiple current loops where current could be carried on a ground wire instead of the neutral, hence why you remove the bonding screw in a subpanel being fed by a bonded main panel.

This PDF explains it pretty well:
https://www.p3-inc.com/images/ground_loops.pdf
But in the case of a portable generator powering a main panel, the only ground current is on the ground between panel and generator. Aside from it being a code violation, what is the real world danger?
 

wyliesdiesels

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Having a bonded neutral in a generator means neutral current could and will flow on pathways that shouldnt have current on them- such as the ground wire. If the neutral wire should fail, then all the current will be flowing on the ground wire and/or other pathways that it shouldnt be flowing on. This creates a shock hazard potential.
 
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