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Innovate1

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Thinking of getting a small solar system - panels, battery and inverter. I keep getting ads on my phone for 4patriots unit but with just a small amount of googling it looks overpriced and the point zero titan looks like a better deal. Thinking a small system like this would be good for emergency power at home and could also be used in the RV. Although the RV may have similar parts except the solar panels. Anyone else have these type systems?
 
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been using a panel and charge controller/battery bank on my boat for quite some time. Easy to do now with all the components or an all in one, like those you describe. Just the matter of what your needs are and how your budget is.

Keep in mind the appliances/tools as home loads will likely be more than what these small units supply.
 

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there were few in the market, I remember I was looking at. Costco have one, somewhere in the sub $1000 range dependent on the wattage. I think this company goal zero was one of the first that have these units


You can find something cheaper at eBay as well without the solar panels but spec says capable of charging with solar. Those are range from $150 to $300
 

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As far as that 4patriots ones it have lots of marketing **** in their site. I would compare it carefully with others and I am generally shy away from strong marketing **** companies. Compare the specs carefully. Also none have mention if their inverter is modified sine wave or pure sine wave.
 

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Thinking of getting a small solar system - panels, battery and inverter. I keep getting ads on my phone for 4patriots unit but with just a small amount of googling it looks overpriced and the point zero titan looks like a better deal. Thinking a small system like this would be good for emergency power at home and could also be used in the RV. Although the RV may have similar parts except the solar panels. Anyone else have these type systems?

Solar works really well for RVs because their "secondary" power is 12V.. Essentially you already have the battery bank. 200 watts of solar pretty much covers our truck camper UNLESS it's cold out and we run the furnace (high 12v draw).

If you want to do this for a house, you're going to need to invert the power. I assume you're talking about a stand-alone setup where you use an extension and plug in the appliances / whatever you're going to power in the house, versus trying to integrate it as a backup (via a transfer switch).

Deal is that it takes a LOT of solar panels to make substantial power. And even then, you need to store that power somewhere (typically large battery banks). Solar, assuming it's a sunny day, maybe 8 hours of power and only a few of those hours are at peak capacity. So for me, I might have a full 6KW of power for 2-3 hour max. That systems is 20 panels. It's simply much cheaper and much more reliable to have a standby generator (even portable) and keep a fuel source around for it.. Like a 100lb propane tank. IMHO anyway.

It comes down to what use case you're trying to cover. Many natural disasters where power is out are associated with bad weather (IE no sun) - so that's another disadvantage of solar.
 

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EcoFlow, Jackery, and Bluetti are a few other brands that do "solar generators". You can probably piece together something cheaper or bigger or easier to replace parts, but the advantage of these solar generators is everything is all bundled in one nice neat package.
 

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Nothing portable is going to generate enough to run anything but a few small things like charging cell phones. A gas/propane generator sounds more like something you need. The generator will be around long after the batteries are dead and solar panels broken.

And lastly all these companies are pushing doom and gloom while the grid gets more reliable in most areas. In the last 20 years I think I've lost power for a total of 48 hours. Not quite four nines, but close enough for me.
 

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1 kw jackery owner here. It’s extremely handy when camping. Also have used it when power goes out. The panels easily charge the unit on a sunny day. Will it run the house hold? No, but the 6 kw unit probably would. With power tools and other devices heading to battery power. The ability to charge those batteries becomes important. Plus no gas involved.
Very pleased with jackery products I have.
 

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1 kw jackery owner here. It’s extremely handy when camping. Also have used it when power goes out. The panels easily charge the unit on a sunny day. Will it run the house hold? No, but the 6 kw unit probably would. With power tools and other devices heading to battery power. The ability to charge those batteries becomes important. Plus no gas involved.
Very pleased with jackery products I have.
So how much does a that setup cost?
 
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I have a renogy panel and controller (I think just a 100w panel) that I mostly use to top off my camping trailer battery during the day. It has no problem charging back up my two trailer batteries with what was depleted during the evening/night.

I do also use it 1-2 times a year to keep some batteries charged that I use for remote ham radio stuff.

I could get another panel and bump up to 200w if I wanted/needed. My charge controller will handle 20amps.
 

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We've got a 2000w "solar generator" that we use at our off grid cabin. Powers all my power tools and a few LEDs. I have it charging from a solar array I put together from an old project.

I could have put together a custom battery/inverter system for less, but I like the idea of it being portable. I can bring it home with me, and it would act as a backup in the event of an outage.
 

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A small engine and an alternator can make a lot of DC, I have a 5 Horse Honda that spins an alternator. The alternator was advertised as being capable of 100 Amps, I have measured 80 amps into a tester.

The Honda engine was a gift and the alternator was $100 from Amazon.
 

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Am I the only one whose first thought on seeing the thread title was the "galaxy on Orion's belt" from Men in Black?
 

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A small engine and an alternator can make a lot of DC, I have a 5 Horse Honda that spins an alternator. The alternator was advertised as being capable of 100 Amps, I have measured 80 amps into a tester.

The Honda engine was a gift and the alternator was $100 from Amazon.
It means I must be in a position to have gas present, another item on the list.
By Solar, I plug in my two solar panels into the jackery. Much simpler and quiet.
 

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12 volts and 100 Amps are 1200 watts. My out of pocket costs were about $150, by using found materials.

It would be hard to get 1.2 KW any cheaper.
 

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I've got an Ecoflow Delta Max 2000 that has been really good. The package deal included a 220w foldable panel, and I have used the Delta Max for every power need for building my 12x14 shed over the past months. It's about 50 pounds, easily portable, and powers every power tool I've plugged into it including 15 amp miter saws and circular saws. I bought it last year on sale for around $2100 total.
 

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I've got an Ecoflow Delta Max 2000 that has been really good. The package deal included a 220w foldable panel, and I have used the Delta Max for every power need for building my 12x14 shed over the past months. It's about 50 pounds, easily portable, and powers every power tool I've plugged into it including 15 amp miter saws and circular saws. I bought it last year on sale for around $2100 total.
That is impressive.
 

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12 volts and 100 Amps are 1200 watts. My out of pocket costs were about $150, by using found materials.

It would be hard to get 1.2 KW any cheaper.
I was testing at 120A (48V DC) yesterday. Even with 2/0 cable, those cables were "warm" to touch.. Just the cost of 2/0 copper makes this who deal expensive. I think single cable are $5+/foot each.

I love inverter / battery tech, but unless you can roll your own with spare parts, it's simply not cheaper than a generator.
 
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