Post frame buildings as a house

[Cheap5.0]

Or in my case, specifically as an addition top a stick built house.

Id like to hear from anyone here who is knowledgeable on this subject. If your a builder, owner, friends of someone who has done it...doesn't matter, just let me know what your impressions are and if they have any problems or had problems.

My CCA said so long as the poles are to depth and I have a crawl space with min. clearance its good. There are a few more points beyond that, but the fact is that its possible to do in my area and there is some significance cost savings compared to stick built w/concrete footer.

My concerns:

Longevity of the addition?

Will this add to the property's value, or possibly lower it?

Anything I have not thought of...?


Because i know some people will ask or are curious, ive been quoted about $32/ft for a roughed in addition. That includes sub floor and roofing/windows. No walls, no finished floor, electrical, pluming, hvac...

For the same size addition, for the same "roughed in" build i was quoted around $65/ft. Most of the added cost was in the concrete work.

 

[Eds Garage]

You should probably also get both types of construction quoted out finished for comparison. You will likely find the cost begin to equal out since post construction often requires more labor and material to finish out that stick built in my experience.

 

[ed_v]

Thanks for posting this. I'm planning on adding a barn, an office, and a guest quarters on our property. I just don't know if It'll be in one building or not. I'm interested in what others will say. Good luck.

Ed

 

[mtwaterguy]

You should probably also get both types of construction quoted out finished for comparison. You will likely find the cost begin to equal out since post construction often requires more labor and material to finish out that stick built in my experience.

Actually the labor costs to finish are less. Why would you think it would be more?

 

[Cheap5.0]

You should probably also get both types of construction quoted out finished for comparison. You will likely find the cost begin to equal out since post construction often requires more labor and material to finish out that stick built in my experience.

I am having quotes for roughed in for two reasons:

1)I dont want to borrow money for this addition (so i have to work within a tight budget now, and finish out as i get time/money)

2)No offense to the builders on here, every profession has its share of hacks.

BUT...i really dont want to leave the finishing touches up to someone i dont know. The house i bought was built in 1999 and just about every piece of trim in every room is "good enough" but not perfect. The dry wall work is less than perfect, the bathroom plumbing needed to be redone and the kitchen counter tops were put in poorly. This was all done by one of the most reputable builders in the area.

I am probably making it out to be much worse than it is, but after visiting a friends house where he spent the time and money to make sure every thing was done right and fitted right....it was night and day. It made my house look like a section 8 **** hole.

Thanks for posting this. I'm planning on adding a barn, an office, and a guest quarters on our property. I just don't know if It'll be in one building or not. I'm interested in what others will say. Good luck.

Ed

My parents did something similiar (30x40 pole barn). It has a 800 sq ft "loft/office" over head. It was insualted/drywalled/wired/hvac'd etc....the ENTIRE building cost about $20K w/cement 10 years ago.

Actually the labor costs to finish are less. Why would you think it would be more?

This ^^^ Especially when you consider I will be doing everything but the plumbing.

 

[Cheap5.0]

Bump for today

 

[rieferman]

As we discussed in the other thread, use concrete pier system on the poles (perma collumn). We do permanent post frame additions onto stick frame homes all the time. No need for crawls space if you do an insulated slab. With batts, you can get great r value in post frame due to less thermal bridging (posts less frequently than studs) so thats a nice bonus. Sorry for iphone typos, huge hands, small buttons

 

[Cheap5.0]

As we discussed in the other thread, use concrete pier system on the poles (perma collumn). We do permanent post frame additions onto stick frame homes all the time. No need for crawls space if you do an insulated slab. With batts, you can get great r value in post frame due to less thermal bridging (posts less frequently than studs) so thats a nice bonus. Sorry for iphone typos, huge hands, small buttons

Thanks! I couldn't remember the thread or the person i spoke with in it, this really helps me out.

The crawl space was a CCA thing, not my own. Ill be doing some reading on perma columns.

 

[Cheap5.0]

Finding info online about this kind of stuff is not easy, for anyone who is following along this thread is a tiny bit of help:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/199824-pole-barn-house-building-2.html

I am still waiting to get a hold of the chief guy at the CCA about all the details of the post frame (he is only available Tue & Thur 8 am - 9 am) addition....but im thinking I want to do this my self.

I am trying to find an architect that is willing to draw up plans for a post frame building (another challenge).

 

[bryanmhoff]

Will this add to the property's value, or possibly lower it?

I spent a while in the mortgage industry and the value of the home is directly dependent upon comparable homes in your area. The question is more of your exit strategy for the home. If your home is considered unique, you will not get the value you would think. So, if you plan on using it for a long time and the benefit of using it outweighs the cost, build it. If you are building it banking on return on investment, probably not your best bet. You'd be better changing bathrooms or your kitchen.

 

[Cheap5.0]

I spent a while in the mortgage industry and the value of the home is directly dependent upon comparable homes in your area. The question is more of your exit strategy for the home. If your home is considered unique, you will not get the value you would think. So, if you plan on using it for a long time and the benefit of using it outweighs the cost, build it. If you are building it banking on return on investment, probably not your best bet. You'd be better changing bathrooms or your kitchen.

Thanks man, i appreciate it! The plan is to stay here till its paid off, so ROI is not a concern right now.