Post Protectors for pole barns

[mag99]

http://www.postprotector.com/products.htm

For anyone concerened with post rot, I found these (plastic)? post protectors online. They claim you can concrete them in and not worry about rot, or bury with soil, as usual. Also, they have a U-shaped piece to cover the skirt board.

Has anyone here used them?

 

[v8garage]

I would do a lot of research before I used these. My experience with plastic is that it will actually promote rot if moisture gets inside the plastic. I am real skeptical about this. Creosote treated posts will probably last 50 years+ without these.
V/8

 

[JDMopar]

When I was planning on building my garage as a pole barn, I planned to get the bottom 4' of the 6X6 posts Rhinolined before setting them. I think that would have worked well to prevent rot.

 

[Torque1st]

The posts rot because the concrete holds the moisture in the post preventing the wood from drying out. Coating them with anything that moisture can not migrate thru is bad. If the post must be set in concrete due to code or something drill the post about 12-18" from the end and put a piece of rebar thru it. Set the bottom 6" of the post in a sand/gravel mixture (not concrete) so it will drain.

 

[pinebarkauto]

I wonder if some are overthinking this post rot issue. My pole barn was built by a company that has been doing it for a long time (Morton). I don't recall anything wrapped around the post and they did put gravel in the hole. They also use a laminated post with 3 2x6 boards instead of 1 6x6 post. They claim that it provides better absorbtion of the pressure treatment than a solid 6x6 post. It made sense to me. I also used expansion joint material between the post and the concrete poured later for the floor.

 

[Dave Carney]

I wonder if some are overthinking this post rot issue.

No question.

The post protectors are a losing deal because you will never keep all of them 100% sealed. Particularly once you drill them for any reason (no matter what they tell you is sealing the hole). Once the water gets in, and you know it will, it can't get out. When I was pole barn shopping the builders universally scoffed at these devices.

 

[JF1]

If you are really concerned with the post rot, look at permacolumn.

Or their column brackets. They mount into the concrete with 4' rebar and keep the lumber off of the ground.

 

[ironman2424]

if your that concerned with post rot use steel posts, otherwise put wood ones in the ground and forget about it. i know of p.t. wood posts that have been in the ground for over 50yrs and are still fine. i also have seen some posts rot off after 20yrs. some in concrete and some not in it. wood has to breath just like You and I or it's not gonna last as long. if you seal it tight your asking for problems. some of this stuff on the market is nothing but gimmicks and like they say: suckers are born every day. Your not gonna make it last forever and even if you could a tornado or hurricane is gonna level it one day anyway. i've only been a member of this site for a short time now and i've seen so much overkill it's getting to be silly. some of you waste so much money on BS thats not neccessary that you could take that extra waste and bail this country out of debt on your own. the 12 inch slabs and the post protectors and enough rebar to float a battleship is overkill unless your planning on keeping a sherman tank in your shop/garage. concrete is gonna crack even if its 60" thick and wood posts are still going to rot one day. just a little common sense can go further than you might think.

 

[krooser]

You'll be DEAD before the posts rot.... as I posted before, my posts have been in the ground for over 25 years without rot. I expect them to last another 20 then I'll be dead and it won't matter.

 

[Deltarat]

I asked the company that built my pole barn about them. They told me they offered them if someone asked, but they didn't put them on a pole unless someone just had to have them. They said they were just snake oil to get a little more money from the client. They said they would hold water next to the post worse than concrete alone. If it sweats and water gets inside, it has no way to get out.

 

[FXR]

Clearly someone needs to create a "Gore-Tex" liner for posts!

 

[H3T]

I used the Post Protector product on all my post frame buildings. One of the projects was an addition to my continuous foundation home. I did my research on the cause of post rot or decay. Bottom line is that moisture is NOT the "cause" of decay. Moisture is (1) of (3) conditions that need to be present. The others are oxygen & temperature range of 40-100 degrees. When these (3) conditions exist together, the living micro organisms, that are abundant in soil & atmosphere, can colonize the post to use the wood fiber as their food source. That's why a rotted post looks like something is eating it! The chemical in treated posts is a pesticide in an effort to ward off micro organism infestation. Post Protector adds another serious layer of protection. Ground contact is the enemy of post life and post protector simply allows you to put the post in the ground without ground contact. Also post protector makes certain the chemical treatment stays with the post rather than being absorbed into the soil over time.

 

[Wastedwagesracing]

Digging up an old thread. Any new input on these or the subject of preventing post rot?