post to beam connection need framers help

[XDC]

please move if not in correct area!

i am going to be building a covered patio off the back side of my house that faces my garage.

i have spent hours upon hours trying to find on the internet how to attach my beams to my posts. sound pretty simple right? well i cannot find any drawings or code info. i am assuming you notch them to fit and then bolt them?

i have also seen the roof with out the front large beam going across and it is all open on the inside. they used scissor trusses to build the roof. there isnt anything supporting the beams together from side to side. what keeps them from just pushing out?

i'll attach a pic of what im trying to do and then one of how i think it is set up. if some one could chime in with a drawing or a good explanation i would appreciate it

 

[kbs2244]

What you have PICs of is called a ridge beam roof.
(Not a ridge board roof.)
Note that the ends of the ridge beam are supported.
Those end trusses are called a “King Post” truss.
This keep any downward force off the rafters and changes them from being in compression to being in tension.
The rafters are keeping the wall tops in place, taking the place of the wall to wall plate level joists used in a ridge board style roof.

Do some research on post and beam construction.

 

[Daniel Dudley]

If you had a solid beam, you would be using a shouldered tennon joint to go into the post. In this case I think you would be notching the outside of the post to support the outside member of the built up beam, and also making a smaller shoulder to **** the rest of the beam to, say 1 inch. That gives you a pretty solid chunk of 6x6 to bolt to.

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

A Simpson LCE Connector-

http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/AC-ACE-LPCZ-LCE.asp

 

[XDC]

Do the scissor trusses used in the pics below allow you NOT to have a beam running what would be considered the "Front" of the structure?

The second pic is basically what i would like to build. A set of posts right at the house wall then another 12' out with 2 foot overhanging. total beam length 14'. Mi has snow loads and the weight of the roof. our post depth is 42" - I was going to use a treated 6x6 . 2-2x12 for the beams. Menard's sells 20' scissor trusses for like $90.00. total covered structure would be 14' x 20'. does this sound like it will work ?

 

[kbs2244]

Trusses are a way around either ridge beam without joists or a ridge board with joists.
You don’t need either since the bottom of the truss takes the horizontal stress.
So, with a scissors truss you don’t need either kind of ridge wood.
All you need is the roof sheathing to keep them from tipping.

As long as the cantilevered ends of your edge beams will take the stress your last idea will work fine.
It is a kind of hybrid design.
Post and beam to the top of the “wall” and truss above.

Morton makes them that way all the way to 140 foot span.