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The logo in post #1,030 by OilyRascal is the trademark of the DoAll company that made (makes?) industrial band saws and other machines.

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This early 33J (3/8" drive swivel) is marked only with TT in a circle, and 33J.
 

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1/2" drive 1" socket. Marked with TT in a circle logo and "1"
 

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The logo in post #1,030 by OilyRascal is the trademark of the DoAll company that made (makes?) industrial band saws and other machines.

Here is an image of the trademark, courtesy of trademarkia.com
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That's what I was thinking when, but was too busy with other problems to dig into it. Maybe a pouch for machine tools, or replacement bits for something
 

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It is obvious that the pouches fit the wrenches, and that it is marked as a set. I believe that Thorsen supplied it to DoAll, and DoAll marketed it as part of their product line. The question is, what was the time frame?
 

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This is a 3/8" socket in 3/8" drive (312x). Markings are the TT logo, 312x, and 3/8
 

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This is a Thorsen feeler gauge. It is marked with "Thorsen" over the TT logo, "NO-25F", and "Made in USA"
 

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This wrench pouch is marked with Thorsen, Dallas, and it's Ncifjonol Stock Number 5120-00-148-9489. Presumably produced for the military.
 

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WTF happened in this thread? This is like trying to catch up to my 5 kids in the family group text on my phone! Eat lunch, take the dog for a walk, come home and see 157 new messages? Was there an emergency? Nah, some musician I will never listen to "dropped" a new song. :lol:

...interesting that Thorsen wasn't big into producing their own open end wrenches back then...
But certainly not unprecedented. Blackhawk never had any interest, either, joining forces with Armstrong instead. In contrast, it took Vlchek forever to make a socket wrench.
More "early" Thorsen tappet wrenches.
Those look like they were sourced from Cornwell.
Here is a giller set I thought was cool looking
I just sold one like that.
Speed-Hed" was the subject of this 1951 article published in Popular Mechanics
Not to let my own cat out of its bag too soon, but I have done a fairly extensive study on ratcheting wrenches, from what I think is the very first, up through 1970, stopping there, at OEM, brand, and patent layers, with a chart showing the different geometries of the jaws, and another showing the design or business interconnections. I'm just waiting on a set of wrenches I am supposed to be getting in trade from another GJer to complete it. I could do it without them, but I'd like to have them on the bench and mic'd and inspected first. I think y'all'll find it interesting.
 

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This is your set on the left with the label, and "Dallas" production markings on the pouch and label..
That’s funny. They used the exact same label except mine says Oakland rather than Dallas. What year did they replace the flat shank wrenches with the Vee wrenches?
-Don


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The set on the upper right matches the contents and shape of your DoALL set except for the logo.
 
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Don, I have understood 1975 as a transitional year because both styles are represented in the catalog.

I am attaching photos of the tin metal banner that would sit on the advertisement racks (racks are in safe storage until...). You will see the progression of how they identified with location's.

1360 59th Street Emeryville,
just "Oakland Calif",
5321 Horton Street Emeryville
5325 Horton Street Emeryville
And 6210 Denton Drive Dallas

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There is also a matter of this 6" long metal box.

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Here are two Thorsen wrenches that were early production. I am not prepared to take a position on their exact production date. Note the difference in their fonts with "Thorsen".

The first is a 3/8" x 5/16" boxed end wrench. It is marked with "3/8 Thorsen" on one side, and "5/16" on the other. Note the absence of a part number, and the absence of the TT in a circle logo, and the absense of plating. Also note how crude the width of the shank is.

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The second is a 7/16" x 3/8" boxed end wrench. It is marked "7/16 Thorsen" on one side, and "3/8 1612" on the other. Note the model number present here.
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Nice selection of early Thorsen tools. I have a few TT marked tools.
I purchased the DOE set with the unusual Emeryville marked roll. It’s very likely that I have the missing wrench. The roll cleaned up pretty well and I was careful to just use plain water on the roll markings rather than take a chance on damaging it. The wrenches will be spending the night in the evaporust.
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Got this gunky socket box at an estate sale today. Took an hour to clean it up with Simple Green. The first before pic is actually after I cleaned some of the gunk off, so I could safely put it in my car.

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That "Emeryville" pouch looks better than it did in the ad photos - looks like it's still in decent shape.

I found some stuff earlier on Craigslist, of all places - I hardly ever bother to look there - I'll post something in the "Long C Craftsman" thread.
 

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Nice selection of early Thorsen tools. I have a few TT marked tools.
I purchased the DOE set with the unusual Emeryville marked roll. It’s very likely that I have the missing wrench. The roll cleaned up pretty well and I was careful to just use plain water on the roll markings rather than take a chance on damaging it. The wrenches will be spending the night in the evaporust.
-Don
Nice, Don. I was hopeful you got it. We should really stop bidding against each other. I will gladly pass if I know you're interested. 😁 Good to see it in the hands of someone that appreciates them.
 

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Actually, I usually find Thorsen in the wild or have it gifted to me and occasionally pick up onesies or twosies on EBay to complete sets. I’ll let you know if I see something fairly expensive that I have to bid on. I’m having a very difficult time figuring out what the missing wrench could be. It must be an oddball. The 3010 that is included I haven’t found in any catalog.
-Don
 

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Don, If it helps there were 12 3000 series wrenches noted in the 1955 material. 3008, 3012, 3014, 3016, 3018, 3019, 3020, 3024, 3025, 3030, 3034, and 3040
 

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Right. The set came with a 3008, 3010, 3012, 3014, 3016, 3018, 3019, 3020, 3024, 3025 and 3030. I don’t believe that the slots in the roll are large enough to accommodate the two wrenches larger than the 3030. Have you ever run across a 3010 before? I checked my pictures and the available catalogs/price sheets and I don’t see one.
-Don
 

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Right. The set came with a 3008, 3010, 3012, 3014, 3016, 3018, 3019, 3020, 3024, 3025 and 3030. I don’t believe that the slots in the roll are large enough to accommodate the two wrenches larger than the 3030. Have you ever run across a 3010 before? I checked my pictures and the available catalogs/price sheets and I don’t see one.
-Don
I have not seen a 3010. I have roughly 30 of the 3000 series, and of that they consist of what you have listed minus the 3010.

Interesting to note I also have a single 3022 which is 3/4 x 11/16 and also not noted in any catalog I have.
 

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Got this gunky socket box at an estate sale today. Took an hour to clean it up with Simple Green. The first before pic is actually after I cleaned some of the gunk off, so I could safely put it in my car.

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This constitutes about 12 years of being on the lookout for Thorsen nutdrivers. 706, 708, 711, 712, 714, and 716

I have a spare (or 2) 714 if anyone is on the hunt
Those are nice! Look how similar the handles look to these Penny’s and Powr-Kraft nutdrivers. Probably sourced from the same manufacturer. Likely Miller’s Falls or possibly Stanley.
-Don
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Interesting to note I also have a single 3022 which is 3/4 x 11/16 and also not noted in any catalog I have.
I don’t have nor have I seen a 3022. Another rare bird. I wonder if one of those might have come in this set?
FWIW, completely irrespective of your roll and Thorsen, I have found that particular size combination to be very iffy across the industry. Most mfgrs made it, and listed it in their total inventory, but many mfgrs did not include it in sets, with the 11/16" more often being paired with 5/8", and the 3/4" more often being paired with 7/8", and not wanting to repeat ends.

The most remarkable thing about that Emeryville K3000 roll from my perspective is the marketing slogan. "Manufacturers of SPEED-HED wrenches". It's not even a Speed-Hed set, obviously. One wonders how many other things they were emblazoning that slogan on. It's significant and should not at all be taken lightly that that is what they're choosing as their identity over anything else. It reminds me of the puff piece from a trade mag that MR. X posted from 1949 on the Emeryville facility, which was completely focused on the facility itself, the sizes, new machines, processes, etc, except for the three column inches they used to talk about their Speed-Hed production. They were obviously all-in and promoting the heck out of it at that time (1948-1951).
 

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Another surprising thing about the roll (and Oily’s box) is that Emeryville is mentioned rather than the myth of being made in Oakland or their sales office in San Francisco. All through Thorsen’s history of manufacturing in the East Bay, they intentionally excluded the fact that their tools were made in Emeryville in favor of having Oakland as part of their logo and listing Oakland as part of their Emeryville address. They even had Oakland marked right on the Speed-Hed wrenches. The mention of Emeryville was obviously brief, since the Oakland logo was used right up until it was replaced by Dallas.
-Don
 

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Right. The set came with a 3008, 3010, 3012, 3014, 3016, 3018, 3019, 3020, 3024, 3025 and 3030. I don’t believe that the slots in the roll are large enough to accommodate the two wrenches larger than the 3030. Have you ever run across a 3010 before? I checked my pictures and the available catalogs/price sheets and I don’t see one.
-Don
I have not seen a 3010. I have roughly 30 of the 3000 series, and of that they consist of what you have listed minus the 3010.

Interesting to note I also have a single 3022 which is 3/4 x 11/16 and also not noted in any catalog I have
 

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^ and that is one of the reasons they're so "oddball". if it's not on the board, the WD isn't going to order it - at least that 's how it worked when I was buying. so those weird part numbers that were not on the boards - e.g. Indestro 1720 5/16" x 11/32" DOE - are just virtually non-existent.

(* and I checked everything I have in the computer and I do not see 3010 anywhere. I have not picked through hard copies of stuff yet - maybe later today. BK)
 

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Today ended up being Thorsen day. The first order of business was to get the wrenches from the roll out of the evaporust. Most of them came out okay but Thorsen’s reputation for barely adequate chrome plating was well earned with these wrenches. I got some matching wrenches out of the Thorsen box so I could use the best available in the roll. The roll ended up with a couple of duplicates to fill the voids. I did a little more cleaning on the insides of the pockets.
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