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Pozidrive in the US

kythri

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A quick search of US and EU trademarks shows that Klein has no claim on Pozidriv.

I suspect that claim linked above is more the work of an overzealous ad copy writer than Klein trying to legitimately claim ownership of the trademark.
 
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KnurledNut

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I thought that Pozi was introduced by Phillips themselves, Klein is saying here it's their trademark. Was Klein involved in the introduction of Pozi, or since bought some rights or a company who had those rights?

Phillips Screw Co is the owner of the trademark.
However, trademarks can be liscensed to others, which would be the case here.
 

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Trademarks are commonly licensed for use, but said licensing doesn't allow claim of ownership of the trademark, as that would dilute said trademark.

Proper claim of a licensed trademark should say something like:

"Klein Tools is a registered trademarks of Klein Tools, Inc.
POZIDRIV is a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Company"
 

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I didn't read the original thread, just wanted to respond to your revival. Pozidriv are very common in cabinet hardware here in the US. Mostly from the European companies, but we run into it all the time. Things like euro hinges, drawer slides, confirmat screws (for particle board and mdf) any Ikea type furniture, etc.

I carry one in my bag for the times I have to adjust frameless cabinet doors.

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maico

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Pozidriv was invented by Phillips Screw Company in America. It was sort of their version of the JIS concept of a non-camming out cross drive system. However, as is so often the case, no man is a profit in his own land, and the idea died a quick death in America. The Europeans on the other hand knew a better mouse trap when they saw one. It's virtually universal in Europe as it well should be as it's a superior system just as JIS was (JIS has now been incorporated into the latest Phillips bit standards) so in fact it no longer exists as a separate entity. Of course the DIN standard is only followed in Europe and Asia so we in the USA are still stuck with inferior Phillips bits. The superior DIN bits work great in both Phillips and JIS screws. Pozidriv is too different from either of these to be able to make one type fits all so for Pozidriv you still need Pozidriv bits.

It's amazing the number of people who butcher JIS screw heads using Phillips screwdrivers then curse soft Japanese metal. If they used the correct JIS drivers it's immediately apparent in disassembly the superiority of a screw design that doesn't torque out.
 

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I learned quite a bit from this thread. I have been familiar with Pozidriv for a while and have numerous bits but no dedicated Pozidriv Screwdrivers. JIS i haven't really found but now i will be looking for them.
 

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Industrial Electrical equipment uses alot of pozidrive. Allen Bradley, ABB drives, etc. Very few veteran electricians know what pozidrive is. Most screws have a slot for a flatblade as well, so that what gets used.
 
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