Hello. Today I found these two tools. This thread is probably going to be pretty picture heavy.
There are two sets oh pictures, the one for the vise, and then another set of pictures for the bevel protractor, I will talk more about the protractor after the first set of vise pictures, so please dont skip over that, the text might be hidden within the pictures.
I saw this small vise, and I noticed it had the older stamp, just says L.S.Starrett. So i am assuming it is pre 1896. The condition is remarkable for that age, so i am a bit hesitant to assign that age for sure. I have looked around online for other examples, and I realize now that my vise is not complete. It is missing the smaller of the 2 moving jaws, as well as the steel rod that goes through the screw head. And apparently these use to come in sets of 2, so I'm also missing the other vise.
I have seen several other examples online, and most of them have the stamp on the side of the vise, not on the top like mine. Also the others i have seen do say "The L.S.Starrett Co." so i have to assume the one i have is in fact older, and maybe pre-1896. But this vise does not have a patent date stamped into it, and i find that almost all of the pre-1896 stuff I have seen does include a patent date typically. So does that mean this vise may be newer given that it has no patent date stamped on it?
I have been able to find it in one of the later catalogs, it is listed as No. 160. In the catalog, the stamp has the "THE" and has the stamp on the side of the vise.
Can anyone direct me to some scans of the older catalogs, i would like to find out if this vise was produced earlier than 1900.
The same goes with the protrator that comes later down the post, if you guys have access to any of the pre 1900 catalogs, i would love love love to see if these tools are listed in there.
Although the fact that the movable jaw is removable is well advertised, i have never seen any pictures of the retention mechanism. It turns out to just be a small split ring in a groove. Also, there is a tiny booboo from when someone drilled into the vise by accident. Probably happened over a hundred years ago.
NICE KNURLING FOR 1896...
Okay, and i also want to mention the Bevel Protractor I got today as well.
It has a stamp, also an early one it seems, without the "THE"
This one actually has an 1800s patent date, so this one is most certainly pre-1896, i think. Once again the only reason I am skeptical because it seems a little tooo minty. It isnt really perfect by any means, it does have some surface rust, but it has no dings or any real damage i can detect.
Any advice on getting this clean? I was just thinking of wiping it down with some isoproply alcohol or something similar, and to get any junk out from the slots.
Upon perusing the starrett catalog that I have full access to(No. 26) i see this came in a vernier version, this has no vernier.
Also, i see that this may be missing what the call the "Acute Angle Attachment."
Thank you for reading! I hope guys can shed some light for me!
The vernier version:
There are two sets oh pictures, the one for the vise, and then another set of pictures for the bevel protractor, I will talk more about the protractor after the first set of vise pictures, so please dont skip over that, the text might be hidden within the pictures.
I saw this small vise, and I noticed it had the older stamp, just says L.S.Starrett. So i am assuming it is pre 1896. The condition is remarkable for that age, so i am a bit hesitant to assign that age for sure. I have looked around online for other examples, and I realize now that my vise is not complete. It is missing the smaller of the 2 moving jaws, as well as the steel rod that goes through the screw head. And apparently these use to come in sets of 2, so I'm also missing the other vise.
I have seen several other examples online, and most of them have the stamp on the side of the vise, not on the top like mine. Also the others i have seen do say "The L.S.Starrett Co." so i have to assume the one i have is in fact older, and maybe pre-1896. But this vise does not have a patent date stamped into it, and i find that almost all of the pre-1896 stuff I have seen does include a patent date typically. So does that mean this vise may be newer given that it has no patent date stamped on it?
I have been able to find it in one of the later catalogs, it is listed as No. 160. In the catalog, the stamp has the "THE" and has the stamp on the side of the vise.
Can anyone direct me to some scans of the older catalogs, i would like to find out if this vise was produced earlier than 1900.
The same goes with the protrator that comes later down the post, if you guys have access to any of the pre 1900 catalogs, i would love love love to see if these tools are listed in there.
Although the fact that the movable jaw is removable is well advertised, i have never seen any pictures of the retention mechanism. It turns out to just be a small split ring in a groove. Also, there is a tiny booboo from when someone drilled into the vise by accident. Probably happened over a hundred years ago.
NICE KNURLING FOR 1896...
Okay, and i also want to mention the Bevel Protractor I got today as well.
It has a stamp, also an early one it seems, without the "THE"
This one actually has an 1800s patent date, so this one is most certainly pre-1896, i think. Once again the only reason I am skeptical because it seems a little tooo minty. It isnt really perfect by any means, it does have some surface rust, but it has no dings or any real damage i can detect.
Any advice on getting this clean? I was just thinking of wiping it down with some isoproply alcohol or something similar, and to get any junk out from the slots.
Upon perusing the starrett catalog that I have full access to(No. 26) i see this came in a vernier version, this has no vernier.
Also, i see that this may be missing what the call the "Acute Angle Attachment."
Thank you for reading! I hope guys can shed some light for me!
The vernier version: