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Alpine4x4

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Looking at getting an end all set of precision screwdrivers. I dont mind if I have to piece it together with a few sets or if its one big set. I currently have a couple of the HF micro bit sets that get the job done, but when it comes to Torx and Hex I find the fit to be sloppy and I have stripped some screws way too easily in my opinion. I also have a smaller Wiha driver set that I like, but its only Phillips and Slotted and it resides on my indoor work bench. I would like a set to cover my bases for whatever I will run into that is also comfortable to use. Main uses would be Key FOBs, PC's, Game Systems, Fishing Reels, AV receivers, etc. The Wera Kraftform Micro Big Pack has me very intrigued as I've heard nothing but good about Wera, I like the design, and the kit seems to have everything I would need. It also seems the most economical as piecing together this same set through Wiha would be twice as expensive. I have looked at the Snap-On options as well, but same deal, double the price of the Wiha and not as comprehensive as the Wera. I'm not opposed to a bit set either, so long as the driver is of decent quality. I will say I dont 100% like the Wiha grips which is also why I'm leaning Wera. Is there another option I'm missing?

My current Wiha set

Wera Kraftform Micro Big Pack
 
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IMHO Wera handles are the best out there but Wiha tends to have a broader lineup of sizes/styles.

Wera seems to have put a lot of thought into the design of their handles. The fat part gives maximum torque and the slender part gives you maximum speed simple by moving your thumb and forefinger. The hexagon shape gives you excellent grip. The fat swivel tip feels nearly frictionless and rests comfortable in the palm of your hand. It's nice to have a bit set but you still need individual drivers for recessed areas.

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Wiha offers the master technicians set but the handles aren't as nice as Wera. Augment this set with their bit driver kit and you'll be covered for just about any situation:
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My advice it to avoid cheap no name sets. Buggering up a small precision screw head can ruin your entire day.

If you need Jeweler style screwdrivers then Bergeon is a good choice.

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IMHO Wera handles are the best out there but Wiha tends to have a broader lineup of sizes/styles.

Wera seems to have put a lot of thought into the design of their handles. The fat part gives maximum torque and the slender part gives you maximum speed simple by moving your thumb and forefinger. The hexagon shape gives you excellent grip. The fat swivel tip feels nearly frictionless and rests comfortable in the palm of your hand. It's nice to have a bit set but you still need individual drivers for recessed areas.



Wiha offers the master technicians set but the handles aren't as nice as Wera. Augment this set with their bit driver kit and you'll be covered for just about any situation:



My advice it to avoid cheap no name sets. Buggering up a small precision screw head can ruin your entire day.

If you need Jeweler style screwdrivers then Bergeon is a good choice.
I think that Wiha bit set 75965 you posted along with the Wera Micro Big Pack would cover all my bases 100% and keep me around $200.
 

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Facom make nice precision screwdrivers as well.

But they don't do as much as a range as the others or a big set, they do Phillips, straight, hex and torx as far as I am aware.
 

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IMHO Wera handles are the best out there but Wiha tends to have a broader lineup of sizes/styles.

Wera seems to have put a lot of thought into the design of their handles. The fat part gives maximum torque and the slender part gives you maximum speed simple by moving your thumb and forefinger. The hexagon shape gives you excellent grip. The fat swivel tip feels nearly frictionless and rests comfortable in the palm of your hand. It's nice to have a bit set but you still need individual drivers for recessed areas.

61Dma8bxdYL._AC_SL1247_.jpg

Wiha offers the master technicians set but the handles aren't as nice as Wera. Augment this set with their bit driver kit and you'll be covered for just about any situation:
92190_1.jpg
81QG6wseADL._SL1500_.jpg

My advice it to avoid cheap no name sets. Buggering up a small precision screw head can ruin your entire day.

If you need Jeweler style screwdrivers then Bergeon is a good choice.

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EXCELLENT CHOICE'S! (y)
 

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Micro Mark currently has the Wiha #86782......65-Piece Micro-Bit Set showing on sale for $99.00 bucks! 😲

Don't know if you'll find that particular set any cheaper? :dunno:


 
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Micro Mark currently has the Wiha #86782......65-Piece Micro-Bit Set showing on sale for $99.00 bucks! 😲

Don't know if you'll find that particular set any cheaper? :dunno:


Amazon has it for $99.99 currently as well with free shipping vs micromarks $13.95 shipping charge on an order of that dollar amount.
 

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I have and love the Wiha 65pc micro bit set mentioned already. A great value, but the price has gone up noticeably, because I purchased mine on sale for around $59 ($75 was the regular price at the time) several years ago. My bits were also made in Germany, which is no longer the case. I think the only place where Wiha falls short is with their precision phillips drivers. The tips are well made and strong, but they are all made to the old standard US phillips spec, not the current ISO pseudo JIS style phillips tip spec (sometimes called cross point) many manufacturers are now using. As a result, the Wiha tips often don't fit fasteners well. If you don't already know, in general JIS/ISO phillips drivers fit modern philips fasteners and older US style phillips fasteners very well, but old US phillips spec screwdrivers never had the best fit to begin with (in my opinion) on older fasteners and they don't fit modern JIS/ISO phillips screws very well at all.

I fixed this issue by supplementing my Wiha 65pc bit set with a JIS phillips screwdriver set from Moody Tools (US made), and a JIS phillips set from Vessel (made in Japan). You wouldn't need to buy both, but compared to Wiha (and Wera last I checked), either option provides a noticeably better fit on every type of phillips screw I encounter.

 

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I like the regular Wiha precision drivers. The texture of the handles provides a nice grip, and the geometry feels better to my fingers.

I would also recommend iFixit micro bit sets. There are a lot of copycat sets, but none of them are as good is the iFixit ones. They have Slotted, Phillips, JIS, Torx, and weird security screws covered. They also stand behind their product. It's a company that was founded by PC/electronics technicians, and they also have a lot of useful teardown manuals, etc. on their website.

 
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I won't say anything more about the Wiha/Wera/usual suspects, as their following is large enough as is.

Something to consider (IMO):

Do you want replaceable blades? Some companies offer this, some do not. One consideration of removable/replaceable tips is the option to outfit yourself with as few/many handles as you desire and store the most seldom used tips without taking up a ton of space (not that micro drivers take up a ton of space).

ONE brand that does not get recommended enough (here or anywhere) is MOODY TOOLS.

I don't think they have an official website, but they are USA based both in admin and manufacture, and their tools are readily available from several big, reputable distributors. Not to mention the all-holy "Lifetime Warranty"

Also, they specialize in micro tools, whereas micro tools seem to be a mere afterthought for some tool companies. This becomes obvious when you see just how expansive their lineup is for micro drivers and micro wrenches (yes they have micro wrenches).
They have been around for a long time, and their reputation among those who have used their stuff is very positive.

Most of the categories (Phillips, JIS, slotted, hex (male + female), Torx, etc.) are offered in multiple handle styles and you have the option of handle + set of tips, or set of dedicated drivers.

MOODY TOOLS 59-pc. Deluxe set #73-0399
$425.34 on micro-tools.com
Notice the mix of dedicated drivers along with the handle/bit holder + numerous tips (top left)

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HERE is another set (Metric) #73-0233
16 drivers + 17 additional tips
$192.17 again from Micro-tools.com

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Give them a serious look. Their stuff is very cool. AND... you won't be just another guy with the ubiquitous Wiha/Wera mini drivers. You'll be a true maverick. A rogue. A lone wolf. A loner Dottie. A rebel. :)

Sure their stuff is a little more $, but not all of it. The extra $ for the ESD stuff can add up, and you could certainly get carried away with buying EVERY single one, but as you said, you could always get a base set and download the expansion packs later if you end up liking the taste. And the Bergeon Swiss-made drivers make Moody's seem like a bargain. I have no experience with the Bergeon, but they do look nice
 
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I won't say anything more about the Wiha/Wera/usual suspects, as their following is large enough as is.

Something to consider (IMO):

Do you want replaceable blades? Some companies offer this, some do not. One consideration of removable/replaceable tips is the option to outfit yourself with as few/many handles as you desire and store the most seldom used tips without taking up a ton of space (not that micro drivers take up a ton of space).

ONE brand that does not get recommended enough (here or anywhere) is MOODY TOOLS.

I don't think they have an official website, but they are USA based both in admin and manufacture, and their tools are readily available from several big, reputable distributors. Not to mention the all-holy "Lifetime Warranty"

Also, they specialize in micro tools, whereas micro tools seem to be a mere afterthought for some tool companies. This becomes obvious when you see just how expansive their lineup is for micro drivers and micro wrenches (yes they have micro wrenches).
They have been around for a long time, and their reputation among those who have used their stuff is very positive.

Most of the categories (Phillips, JIS, slotted, hex (male + female), Torx, etc.) are offered in multiple handle styles and you have the option of handle + set of tips, or set of dedicated drivers.

MOODY TOOLS 59-pc. Deluxe set #73-0399
$425.34 on micro-tools.com
Notice the mix of dedicated drivers along with the handle/bit holder + numerous tips (top left)



HERE is another set (Metric) #73-0233
16 drivers + 17 additional tips
$192.17 again from Micro-tools.com



Give them a serious look. Their stuff is very cool. AND... you won't be just another guy with the ubiquitous Wiha/Wera mini drivers. You'll be a true maverick. A rogue. A lone wolf. A loner Dottie. A rebel. :)

Sure their stuff is a little more $, but not all of it. The extra $ for the ESD stuff can add up, and you could certainly get carried away with buying EVERY single one, but as you said, you could always get a base set and download the expansion packs later if you end up liking the taste. And the Bergeon Swiss-made drivers make Moody's seem like a bargain. I have no experience with the Bergeon, but they do look nice

Storage isnt much of an issue so stored space isnt a huge concern. Replaceable blades arent a deal breaker either, micro tools are affordable enough if I destroy one outside of a warranty claim replacement is easy, especially with the bigger names like Wera and Wiha.

I like the Moody stuff, interesting. Another contender for sure. I think I'll end up with at least their slotted a phillips set to try regardless of which direction I go. Thank you for bringing them up. Still digging through their extensive catalog.
 

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I've used Moody hook sets before and I like them. You don't have to spend a lot with them, as they offer smaller screwdriver sets as well. I believe they were one of the earlier companies to make precision drivers with spin caps.
 

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... micro tools are affordable enough if I destroy one outside of a warranty claim replacement is easy, especially with the bigger names like Wera and Wiha.
I am the same way. Some people get very fussy over warranty policies even if the tool in question cost him/her $3 twenty years ago. One can never assume on the internet.

The replacement blade option is something I like due to my affliction of preferring members of sets to align visually with one another. Things that change appearance seemingly every season annoy me. I.e. if I replace a micro driver 3 years down the road and the "new and improved" handles aren't a match to the set members I have, it really bugs me. Not so much if they're "hard use" tools that get thrown in a box and pulled out occasionally (punches, chisels, prybars), but definitely if it's a set that I have to look at every time I open a drawer or is hanging on my bench. Petty I know, but I'm the one who lives with it.

What I'm getting at is... replacing just the tip (gigidy) won't affect the set's appearance (if that's something that you pay attention to).
 
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I am the same way. Some people get very fussy over warranty policies even if the tool in question cost him/her $3 twenty years ago. One can never assume on the internet.

The replacement blade option is something I like due to my affliction of preferring members of sets to align visually with one another. Things that change appearance seemingly every season annoy me. I.e. if I replace a micro driver 3 years down the road and the "new and improved" handles aren't a match to the set members I have, it really bugs me. Not so much if they're "hard use" tools that get thrown in a box and pulled out occasionally (punches, chisels, prybars), but definitely if it's a set that I have to look at every time I open a drawer or is hanging on my bench. Petty I know, but I'm the one who lives with it.

What I'm getting at is... replacing just the tip (gigidy) won't affect the set's appearance (if that's something that you pay attention to).
Yeah I'm that kind of OCD as well. OCD enough I'd probably sell the set with the replacement and buy the whole newer set so it all matches. I'm weird like that. I didnt think of the visual aspect, that is one thing I like the snap-on is I keep my handle with most replacements.
 

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To each his own but I tried Moody and tossed them in the junk drawer. The tiny diameter handles are terrible for grip and the cap rotation feels very rough. They seemed like something from the dollar store.

If undecided, I'd suggest the OP buy one screwdriver from each of the major brands and decide which he likes the best. Part of it is subjective. (ergonomics/personal preference)
 
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