So I'm just about ready to buy a rotary hammer, as a job I'm doing involves a lot of chipping and drilling to anchor some plates to concrete. I am looking for some non china made if possible. I had a Bosch 11247, which was a 1-9/16" hammer and I was happy with it, but wound up returning it to lowes because I only used it to drill two holes and take up about 20 tiles. Couldn't really justify the layout for it. So now that I'm back in the market, I was wondering if anyone has any input as far as the milwaukee vs Bosch. Hilti is most likely going to be out of my price range. And I'm looking to stay around the same size as the Bosch. 1-9/16 or maybe a little larger.
Preferences on rotary hammers
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GirchyGirchy
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Go back and buy the one you caused Lowe's to lose money on.
^ don't blame him. lowes doesn't lose money on returns, they get credit from the manufacturer for damn near everything that gets returned for whatever reason, and they allow returns for anything, even being unsatisfied for any reason, so he wasn't in the wrong on returning it after realizing it wasn't what he needed.
bosch, milwaukee, dewalt, hilti.... all are going to be fine because you probably won't ever get to the end of the tools life unless you are a contractor or it's a pass around inside a plant.
bosch, milwaukee, dewalt, hilti.... all are going to be fine because you probably won't ever get to the end of the tools life unless you are a contractor or it's a pass around inside a plant.
RCStocker
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BS! To use a tool and then return it because you don't want the cost of owning it is more than dishonest! It is stealing and if you do it you really lack ethics and morals.
Everyone looses. Lowe's does loose money because of the labor involved in returning it. The company looses because they don't get paid and then have a used tool. ****** HELL only a dolt would post they did something like that and only a dolt would say no one looses. Labor, shipping, re-manufacturing times and more shipping all eat into the bottom line profits. It is bad for stock holders which I am one. Are you guys really that Damn stupid?
Wow! I actually agree with this. I can't believe I'm saying it, but I think RC is right this time.
Jim C.
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Packard V8
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My forty-year-old Hilti is going to outlast me and it was used when I got it.
On the off-topic ***** session about returns after using a tool, count me agin 'em. I just bought a "factory rebuilt" Graco paint sprayer. The company from whom I bought it gets all the returns from the big box stores. Basically none of them were really defective. A cheap-*** buys the sprayer, uses it for a weekend or a week on his project and then returns it for credit. If he cleaned it at all, the factory rebuild is easy. If he just left it full of paint, it's stripped for parts and the pump is junked. The rebuild company said Graco tells him this type phony return adds 10% to the cost of every homeowner unit they sell. We all pay for it all the time.
And don't get me started on eBay. They always side with the buyer, no matter how phony the claim. I made a sale and the buyer said it arrived damaged. "OK, no problem; send 'er back for a full refund." He refused to return it and eBay still stole the sale price plus the shipping cost from my PayPal account and gave it back to the crook. Scammers have ruined it for too many of us.
jack vines
On the off-topic ***** session about returns after using a tool, count me agin 'em. I just bought a "factory rebuilt" Graco paint sprayer. The company from whom I bought it gets all the returns from the big box stores. Basically none of them were really defective. A cheap-*** buys the sprayer, uses it for a weekend or a week on his project and then returns it for credit. If he cleaned it at all, the factory rebuild is easy. If he just left it full of paint, it's stripped for parts and the pump is junked. The rebuild company said Graco tells him this type phony return adds 10% to the cost of every homeowner unit they sell. We all pay for it all the time.
And don't get me started on eBay. They always side with the buyer, no matter how phony the claim. I made a sale and the buyer said it arrived damaged. "OK, no problem; send 'er back for a full refund." He refused to return it and eBay still stole the sale price plus the shipping cost from my PayPal account and gave it back to the crook. Scammers have ruined it for too many of us.
jack vines
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Really Pops? That seems a little dishonest to me. Do you agree with that sort of activity? The OP didn't say he was dissatisfied with the tool. As a matter of fact, he said he was happy with it. He didn't say he didn't need it. He just decided he didn't want to pay for it AFTER he started using it. He should have given that some thought before he bought it and used it. Simple economics says there's no such thing as a free lunch. Someone somewhere paid for the returned drill.
Jim C.
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finn
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I'd classify this behavior as blatantly dishonest.
Your morals rate the recommendation that you stick to Harbor Freight tools. You merit nothing better.
Your morals rate the recommendation that you stick to Harbor Freight tools. You merit nothing better.
To those who posted wth helpful remarks, thank you very much I appreciate your input. I will most likely go with the milwaukee since the HD near me has a complete aisle of their rotary hammers and matching bits.
For those of you who disagree with me purchasing a tool and returning it simply because I could not justify the cost, I apologize if I offended you, feel free to pm me and let me know how many Hail Marys I should say. Get off your soap boxes. ******** keyboard cowboys. Go **** in your hats.
For those of you who disagree with me purchasing a tool and returning it simply because I could not justify the cost, I apologize if I offended you, feel free to pm me and let me know how many Hail Marys I should say. Get off your soap boxes. ******** keyboard cowboys. Go **** in your hats.
the gypsy
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The question is why didn't you rent instead of buying it?
Semohandyman
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You post all your drama here and get mad when people judge you! You’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you? 
RivennHewn
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We all pay higher prices because of this type of activity.
Thanks dude
Thanks dude
hockey2pt0
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Search craigslist for good deals. Recently scored a Hilti for dirt cheap
kiatech
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Harbor freight around here is just a tool rental for hacks.
Coach James
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I wanted a Bosch Bulldog but couldn't justify the cost...~$240. So I bought a Northern Tool brand for ~$80, have used it more times than I can remember and it works fine.
Coach
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You post all your drama here and get mad when people judge you! You’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you?
Agreed on both counts. Once again, someone somewhere had to pay for the returned drill. Sounds like Bosch takes the hit for it. We'll all end up paying for it in the long run. The cost will just get passed along to the honest consumers.
Jim C.
While I totally agree with everything everyone is saying about this being wrong.
I do kinda like buying the returned "rental" tools at lowes/HD/and even HF.. I love to read some of the super stupid reason's for returns if its on the tag to.. I have gotten some killer deals because of people that pull this ****..
I do kinda like buying the returned "rental" tools at lowes/HD/and even HF.. I love to read some of the super stupid reason's for returns if its on the tag to.. I have gotten some killer deals because of people that pull this ****..
AE2
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Craigslist Hilti. Buy it used sell it used.
thebeekeeper1
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I have a Milwaukee Thunderbolt and love it. It was a pawn shop special--the drill, steel case, and every size bit, in two lengths, from 3/16" to 2"--plus an SDS adapter. Got it for $305 OTD.
A recent story--a good friend didn't know I had it and rented a Dewalt in order to chisel from concrete blocks that formed a large fireplace in a house he had bought. It wouldn't touch it as the guy who built it used concrete instead of mortar, and filled all the holes with the 'crete.
The sledge hammer was too much work for a doctor type, so he borrowed my Milwaukee as it wasn't going to cost by the day. He destroyed the entire thing in a day. He asked why I never told him Milwaukee was so much better after years of buying yellow tools.
I recommend the Milwaukee.
A recent story--a good friend didn't know I had it and rented a Dewalt in order to chisel from concrete blocks that formed a large fireplace in a house he had bought. It wouldn't touch it as the guy who built it used concrete instead of mortar, and filled all the holes with the 'crete.
The sledge hammer was too much work for a doctor type, so he borrowed my Milwaukee as it wasn't going to cost by the day. He destroyed the entire thing in a day. He asked why I never told him Milwaukee was so much better after years of buying yellow tools.
I recommend the Milwaukee.
geojag
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Can't agree with returning something after you used it because you can't justify the cost. Should have thought about that before buying.
As for rotary hammers, I have a Bosch Bulldog, it is great. A little small but it can handle big jobs. If you are looking for something on the cheap, Harbor Freight has a knock off of the Bosch, item 69276 for less than $75, and I believe I saw a coupon for it for around $55 in the last flyer.
As for rotary hammers, I have a Bosch Bulldog, it is great. A little small but it can handle big jobs. If you are looking for something on the cheap, Harbor Freight has a knock off of the Bosch, item 69276 for less than $75, and I believe I saw a coupon for it for around $55 in the last flyer.
ratdoggy
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Isn't that why there are tool rental places?
cosmik binturong
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i'll second the Bosch choice: can't go wrong with it!
that or a rental if OP is not capable of making his mind about his own purchase decisions...
that or a rental if OP is not capable of making his mind about his own purchase decisions...
GortonsFisherman
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Classy.
nehog
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Late, but WTF? That's as close to stealing as you can get! Absolutely unethical and immoral. No wonder stuff costs so much today, we're paying for your free 'rentals'.
Not true. Lowes loses money on this, and so does the manufacturer. Oh, wait, so do the rest of Lowes customers.
comedyman809
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no, we all pay higher prices because billion aires are not happy with their measly little gulf streams jets.
comedyman809
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by the way, clearance items(typically items returned for no reason) are sold at discount, but still make a profit. if they return the drill to bosch for a credit, there is no profit on the drill, clearance still has profit, so i doubt returned tools(with no problems) go back the the manufacturer. and the clearance racks gives some people a discount which means there is a deal to be had. so who is getting screwed??? all big corporations will be fine, they manage make plenty of money. so who cares really??? to all the the people defending the store thinking the store suffers....do you really think the store cares that much about you......NO.
finn
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Repeat it enough and you will eventually believe it.
Exactly. Someone somewhere takes a loss or incurs some cost for the OP's free rental.
Jim C.
x2 this... Bosche if I were to get another one.
and X2 on dishonesty using tools then returning it. if you can't afford it, don't want to keep it, needed it, then rent it.
I have the older hitachi sds max DH40 before they sells the hitachi one and it have been through many concrete and boulder rocks. DH-40-MR. Just get a good bit makes a whole world of differences.
ratdoggy
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I'm going to bet he won't post here very much in the future
ratdoggy
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FWIW I have a Hilti and I love it. It's earned me it's purchase price in cases of beer from friends (good friends) that have borrowed it. I also seem to acquire more bits that way too
Mr Ratchet
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I have a Bosch 1 1/8" hammer. I wanted the Milwaukee version, but could not find one when I was buying one. I think it's pretty much an either or between these two brands. A 1 9/16" is a pretty big hammer. Either you need to drill a lot of holes, hammer a lot, or need some pretty big holes. If not, you might be better off with a little smaller model that costs less as well.
Hammers are Hilti's forte and they make a good product. They are not vastly better than the other good brands like they once were but still hold an edge. I would not hesitate to look at models from Makita and Hitachi as both are very good brands also
Hammers are Hilti's forte and they make a good product. They are not vastly better than the other good brands like they once were but still hold an edge. I would not hesitate to look at models from Makita and Hitachi as both are very good brands also
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We use to do that all the time in high school and college. We called it "Walmart Rentals" We would "rent" tables and chairs for parties and stuff like that.
outdoorspace,
Do you have some empty "indoorspace" between your ears? After mostly seeing the OP get kicked around for his recent dishonest activities, why would you post having participated in similar BS? Are you trying to say that what the OP did was right because you used to do it too?
Jim C. (Who doesn't understand why someone would engage in fraudulent activity and then go online to brag about it.)