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mopwr2004a

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Looking to buy a 3000psi or larger pressure washer and was wanting some feed back.

Which ones to stay away from?
Who makes a good one that wont break the bank.
 
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porschedude996TT

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I have a Ridgid 3800 psi with. Honda engine and a Cat brand pump. It works well and never a problem. Use Stabil Fuel Treatment to keep the fuel from going sour. I see the engines Ridgid is using today are Subaru. The Subaru should serve you well like the Honda engine.

Look at the major parts by brand and then the other stuff like the frame, wheels, hoses, nozzles and such for quality of build and design. If it looks goofy, then chances are the odd things will give you problems in the long run.


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I would buy a honda powered unit if possible and not a cheap one either. Failing that the rigid unit I picked up years ago for a song at a garage sale is running strong, It looks built way better than the current offerings and uses a subaru motor.
 

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I have a craftsman that has to be 8 years old. No issues really. I use it pretty regularly in the warmer months.
 

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Honda is typically good but usually adds tot he price tag. It just depends on how much you use it. I would at least stay away from the off brand ones that look like Hondas and stick with a brand name. I have a 3500 psi Troy Built with a Briggs and Stratton and I haven't had any issues with it over 5 years. Like mentioned I run stabil through it and keep the oil changed/checked, etc.
 

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and do not let it freeze! Can't tell you how many people I know don't drain them and leave them in sheds and the water freezes and breaks the pump. Keep it above freezing and quality fuel and it should last. I have a can of ethanol free gas (can't get it at the pump locally). I run it until empty on the regular gas and then add a little ethanol free and run that until it is empty and then store it. So no ethanol gas sitting in the lines, carb, etc.
 

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I have a Ridgid RD80701 and love it. It has the 3000 psi Cat pump and Subaru engine, before they switched the engines over to idle-down and/or fuel injection (which received a number of complaints).

Tried electric in the past, and was never very happy with the results.

The engine and pump are the primary parts you should be looking at. I'd avoid axial pumps.
 
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mopwr2004a

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Hotsy would be nice but not in the Budget.

looking to stay $500 or less

looked at Simpson but no stock right now in my area. I guess Seasonal item lol

looked at a Craftsman also that has 3000psi & 2.7 gpm it has what is called trigger start wifey friendly :)
 

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Summary of the items I learned here and other sites when I was shopping for one 18 months or so ago:

Get one with a name brand engine that you can get parts for locally - pick your favorite flavor.

Triplex pump is preferred to axial pump for durability and longevity. Cat is supposed to be really good stuff if you can find one in your price range.

Pressure is what breaks bond between dirt and object being cleaned while volume determines how quickly the work will be done. You want a decent balance between the two. Some sites use a term of cleaning units (psi x gpm = cu) to show total cleaning ability relative to one another.

Soap tanks just give you one more thing to clean when your done working / cleaning so soap siphon is preferred by many. After using mine, I would agree completely.

Longer hoses are more convenient than moving the unit all the time with a short hose.

Storing them in a heated garage or basement is ideal but treating with pumpsaver / antifreeze is a must if you can't do that (unless you really want to replace the pump).


With all of that in mind, I ended up with a Simpson ALH3225 from Lowes for $499+tax. Kohler engine is supported locally by a couple of equipment dealers and has run great since buying it in August 2014. 3200 psi and 2.5 gpm is plenty for my uses around the house / yard and cleaning undersides of cars at the end of winter. I added a 25' extension hose to the stock one for up to 60' of total reach. Also added quick connect fittings for the water inlet, pressure outlet, hose ends, and spray wand - I'm all for saving time whenever I can. At some point, I would like to add a surface cleaner for use in the garage once or twice a year without getting over spray everywhere.

Two negatives of the unit I've found so far is that the handle is pretty short even for me at 5'-10" and I'd like to be able to mount a gallon of cleaner on it so I don't have to move multiple things every time I move the machine (think about cleaning a fence for example).
 

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I have a ariens commercial grade mower w/ the Honda pro GXV -160 engine. I also have a billygoat f601s w/ the suburu robin ex17 engine. The suburu is the better engine. Smooth idle from the lowest throttle setting to the highest. The Honda just likes to run fast. Shaky idle at low throttle settings.
 
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mopwr2004a

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gonna be used around the house.

car washing and dirty greasy engine parts
concrete driveway & patio
wash a brick home every couple years
travel trailer

just the general home use, no commercial type use.
 

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My first one was from Costco, 1800 psi with a Honda engine. Worked ok for a couple of years then started losing pressure. Turns out the no-name pump was not serviceable and a new one was more than I paid for the whole machine. Gave the engine to a neighborhood kid and tossed the rest in the trash. Lesson learned.

Round two was a Dewalt with specs similar to porshedude's. 3800 psi, Honda 390 GX series engine, and a CAT pump. Wish I hadn't wasted the money on the Costco unit but it's easy to fall into the trap of "this one's good enough for my use." It wasn't. Buy your last pressure washer first.
 

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Sams has nice Black Max models from abut $280 starting around 2700 PSI. Plenty enough for anything but heavy equipment. Mine has worked fine for 5 years or so all year around on everything from cars to tractors. Always starts on 2nd pull. I had electric for 10 or so years till it died. Simply too wimpy and always hose and cord getting tangled. No more electric for me.
 
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MegaMechanic

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I agree with the Rigid. Mine works like a champ. BTW, make sure you get a "cat" pump. the pumps can be rebuilt and aslo take a beating without issues!
 

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Summary of the items I learned here and other sites when I was shopping for one 18 months or so ago:

Get one with a name brand engine that you can get parts for locally - pick your favorite flavor.

Triplex pump is preferred to axial pump for durability and longevity. Cat is supposed to be really good stuff if you can find one in your price range.

Pressure is what breaks bond between dirt and object being cleaned while volume determines how quickly the work will be done. You want a decent balance between the two. Some sites use a term of cleaning units (psi x gpm = cu) to show total cleaning ability relative to one another.

Soap tanks just give you one more thing to clean when your done working / cleaning so soap siphon is preferred by many. After using mine, I would agree completely.

Longer hoses are more convenient than moving the unit all the time with a short hose.

Storing them in a heated garage or basement is ideal but treating with pumpsaver / antifreeze is a must if you can't do that (unless you really want to replace the pump).


With all of that in mind, I ended up with a Simpson ALH3225 from Lowes for $499+tax. Kohler engine is supported locally by a couple of equipment dealers and has run great since buying it in August 2014. 3200 psi and 2.5 gpm is plenty for my uses around the house / yard and cleaning undersides of cars at the end of winter. I added a 25' extension hose to the stock one for up to 60' of total reach. Also added quick connect fittings for the water inlet, pressure outlet, hose ends, and spray wand - I'm all for saving time whenever I can. At some point, I would like to add a surface cleaner for use in the garage once or twice a year without getting over spray everywhere.

Two negatives of the unit I've found so far is that the handle is pretty short even for me at 5'-10" and I'd like to be able to mount a gallon of cleaner on it so I don't have to move multiple things every time I move the machine (think about cleaning a fence for example).

Some good insight in this post!
 

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This. I owned several gas units before I got smart and bought one almost exactly like this. It's so much easier to flip a lever and start washing with 3200psi....

Only downside is that portability blows (230v).
 

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I have used both but I prefer the electric ones. You don't have to worry about starting it, oil changes, or leaving gasoline in it for a long time and it goes bad.
 

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Haven't read other replies, sorry if I repeat what might have already been said.

I own a professional pressure washing business so here's some pointers what to look for. You want to look for a Honda GX based engine. Pump wise, most homeowner PW's will be direct drive. Make sure your water pressure is sufficient for the GPM of the machine. "General Pump" is preferred. If a belt drive unit is in your budget GO FOR IT. It will outlast a direct drive machine ten fold. Plus, the belt drives spin slower creating more suction so you can pull from a tank if desired.

Lastly if you can find a machine in your price range that has an external unloader, that will be your best bet. It will benefit maintenance and longevity.

Also, saw some mention of CAT pumps - they are overpriced, proprietary parts, expensive to rebuild. I have one as a door stop. All of our machines have generals and some with 1000+ hours without rebuild.



TIPS:

-Make sure you do not run the pump dry, that is bad.

-Make sure your water inlet is water tight, leaks will cause air to be sucked in and the pump will cavitate.

-Do not let the machine idle too long without pulling the trigger.

-Super high pressure is not always the answer.

-NEVER use the "red tip" - throw it away.

Hope this helps.


PS: If you would like to save a few bucks and build nice a machine yourself, PM me.
 
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My advice is to research the best and work backwards, at least then you will be making an informed decision.
I have both, a Stihl RE128 Plus Electric Model which works well but needs a 20 AMP breaker (which I haven't installed yet) as the 15 AMP outlet trips if I let it sit cycling for more than 15-20 secs. I have to reach over and switch it off between use.

I really wanted a bigger machine and planned on buying a surface cleaner as well so I went out and purchased a BE Pressure washer with a Honda GX200 and 2500 PSI Comet Triplex Pump with 3 GPM flow IIRC, it works great.
http://www.bepressure.com/index.php...chyid=5&cntnt01productid=8&cntnt01returnid=59


But when I went to buy a surface cleaner I went into a professional equipment store and they told me to run any of the large 16" and above surface cleaners I'd need a bigger machine, unless I was willing to try the 14" whirl away surface cleaner (attaches directly to the wand) I believe it will run as low as 2.5 GPM and are about a 1/3 of the price of the big 2 handled units.
I bought the 14" model and stripped it down and made sure it was well greased as I'd heard many came back seized, and got to work, what a time saver over the electric unit.

It used to take a whole weekend to do all my paths and the main patio, and another day to do the concrete portion of the driveway. I got it all done in under a day and my body was a little sore but nothing like before.

I mostly use the electric unit on my cars and motorcycles and pull the bigger gas powered machine out for around the house.

Also make sure the pressure hose is 50ft and the wand is comfortable to use, a lot of the residential use machines are supplied with a plastic wand and a short 25ft hose.

Apparently it's better to extend the pressure hose rather than the supply hose, as a long supply hose may not provide enough through put and cause the pump premature wear.

I tested my system with a 3/4" 50ft supply hose to make sure it was delivering a minimum 3.0GPM that my machine needed.

I discovered that trying to upgrade a cheaper machine to get the better wand and a 50ft hose you are already spending almost the same as a commercial machine.

Good luck and let us know what you choose as your new machine.

Edit, just read the post above by Ilikedirt, excellent info there.

BTW just saw an 2-3 year old 11HP Honda Powered belt drive unit on CL for $249 which is ridiculously cheap almost called but .... maybe I will. (they list for over $1,400 here)

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/tls/5381109004.html
 
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Stick with a Cat or a General pump. Most other pumps are junk and not repairable. X2 on the Honda.

I have also heard Annovi Reverberi (AR) was on par with CAT and General.


My pressure washer is the Generac 6590. 2.8 GPM - 3,100 PSI. It came with tips and a 35 foot hose. It has proven to be a great garage addition. It also has an AR triplex pump. I have a dedicated high end 25 foot garden hose I keep with it, solely for pressure washer use. I paid $500, on clearance, at Menard's, last March.



For winterizing, I bought some pump saver I keep in it (in winter) and I just keep it full of fuel (with stabilizer). So far, it hasn't sat longer than a month, without use. Now that I bought a tractor, it will get even more use.

The only drawback to the wand I have is trying to clean under wheel wells. The short wand would do better. Still has been a great purchase.
 

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I have a Honda gx160 2700 psi pressure washer. Probably 10 years old. I think the brand is Excel. Used the snot out of it and finally replaced the the water pump with an aftermarket pump. It works even better than when it was new. The Honda motors are bullet proof and very easy to work on if you need to.

Then.... I bought a Hotsy hot water pressure washer. Diesel fired, electric pump. It's a cheaper model in the Hotsy line. I think it's 1500 psi but the hot water makes all the difference. Wash my truck at least twice a week during the summer. It works awesome! They cost more, but I have justified it.

I still use my Honda a couple times a year because it's more portable than the Hotly. The Hotsy is way too heavy to pick up. It's roll around only.

Not sure if you considered a hot water pressure washer or not. If not, or if that doesn't fit your need, you can't go wrong with a gx160 Honda.
 
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mopwr2004a

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well I went and got the Craftsman 3000psi & 2.7 gpm. you chrg a on board battery that starts the engine when you pull the trigger on the wand. I got this so the wife can help out when she wants.

I will let you know how it works
 
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