Problems With All Flooring Types

[427HISS]

I have a single stall garage that I'm overhauling for my 427 Cobra, with the nice cabnets, tool box's, wall paint, MaxJax lift etc. I'm wanting to do something,...to my old stained concrete floor !

The problems with paint/epoxy, even if you prep your floor very well (especially old stained concrete, not brand new) it peals, cracks or just scuffs off after in a short period of time from foot traffic and from tire's. My friend's business lobby floor was worn off in two months, and the foot traffic wasn't high.

Snap together plastic tiles. It's expensive, any sunlight can dull the color. (I've seen three floors in person and others on forums say the same) Moving your car around can un-snap the tiles, rolling your car jack and stools is not easy, bumpy at the least, hard on knees and ****'s etc. A fellow racer's trailer floor tile was a huge issue. The rubber matt's are expensive, tare fairly easy, dulls out in color etc.

In a show room, any of these products look wonderful, just not on a home garage, let alone a business.

So, is there another product (besides having a newer concrete floor polished) that will work out much better than these types ?

 

[reader2580]

My parents have had a epoxy floor in their garage for at least five years. The floor was at least 30 years old at the time. No issues with the floor peeling or anything like that. The floor was done by professionals.

 

[James-W]

I have a single stall garage that I'm overhauling for my 427 Cobra, with the nice cabnets, tool box's, wall paint, MaxJax lift etc. I'm wanting to do something,...to my old stained concrete floor !

The problems with paint/epoxy, even if you prep your floor very well (especially old stained concrete, not brand new) it peals, cracks or just scuffs off after in a short period of time from foot traffic and from tire's. My friend's business lobby floor was worn off in two months, and the foot traffic wasn't high.

Snap together plastic tiles. It's expensive, any sunlight can dull the color. (I've seen three floors in person and others on forums say the same) Moving your car around can un-snap the tiles, rolling your car jack and stools is not easy, bumpy at the least, hard on knees and ****'s etc. A fellow racer's trailer floor tile was a huge issue. The rubber matt's are expensive, tare fairly easy, dulls out in color etc.

In a show room, any of these products look wonderful, just not on a home garage, let alone a business.

So, is there another product (besides having a newer concrete floor polished) that will work out much better than these types ?

You sure have a low opinion of all flooring. Why don't you just stick with the old stained concrete? At least that way you won't be wasting money on flooring that you feel isn't very good.

 

[bdamico]

You didn't mention the king of garage flooring types...

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Peeling from tires is another way of saying "I did not prep or I didn't do it correctly".

 

[Armorpoxy]

A properly installed good quality floor will give much better performance and appearance than you are describing.

Another solution is to lightly grind the floor and put down a coat of our clear SPGX hybrid polyurea/polyaspartic. Super resistant to all common auto fluids, easy to apply, and shows virtually no scratches or damage over time. Cost is low too vs. epoxy.

 

[Angelfire]

You didn't mention the king of garage flooring types...

Ditto this!

 

[427HISS]

You sure have a low opinion of all flooring. Why don't you just stick with the old stained concrete? At least that way you won't be wasting money on flooring that you feel isn't very good.

Boy, guess you won't be getting much from Santa this year.

Don't worry,....be Christmassy ! (that should help with your attitude) lol

There's always issues with flooring, whether indoor or out, I'm just asking if there's something better,.... buddy. With my wife and I having a lot of pets, we changed from carpeting to hardwood to slate flooring, and each time it got much better.

Maybe a lot of DIY'ers are not preping well enough, unlike the pro's. Prepwork in every aspect is the most important part of the job.

Armorpoxy, I don't think I've heard of SPGX hybrid polyurea/polyaspartic, so I'll check out the website. Thanks.

 

[Armorpoxy]

Here is a link

https://armorpoxy.com/products/spgx-one-part-polyurea-coating/

And a review

http://allgaragefloors.com/review-armorpoxy-spgx-floor-coating/

 

[427HISS]

Just watched a video on youtube and it looks great. I'll click on your links.

Is painting tape tough enough to mask off a foot or so around the garage parameter, so I could paint it then a second color inside without eating the tape for a clean result ?
Like a cars two tone paint job.

 

[Armorpoxy]

Masking us fine, but is difficult to do on a rough surface like concrete.

 

[427HISS]

Ok, didn't know about the epoxy.

 

[James-W]

Boy, guess you won't be getting much from Santa this year.

Don't worry,....be Christmassy ! (that should help with your attitude) lol

There's always issues with flooring, whether indoor or out, I'm just asking if there's something better,.... buddy. With my wife and I having a lot of pets, we changed from carpeting to hardwood to slate flooring, and each time it got much better.

Maybe a lot of DIY'ers are not preping well enough, unlike the pro's. Prepwork in every aspect is the most important part of the job.

Armorpoxy, I don't think I've heard of SPGX hybrid polyurea/polyaspartic, so I'll check out the website. Thanks.

I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything, it's just that in your opening post you were pretty much down on all types of flooring. Even the thread title suggests that all flooring is problematic. I just figured that no matter what type of flooring you put down, in a few months you would regret it and wish you hadn't done it. By keeping the old stained concrete, you may not like it, but at least you aren't spending money and then not liking the new flooring.

 

[CJDave]

I have had my Race Deck Free Flow down for 3 years and have experienced none of the issues that you cite. Yes, hard to kneel on but so is concrete. I use a old furniture pad to kneel or lay on just as I did with my bare concrete. Good luck. CJDave.

 

[427HISS]

I have had my Race Deck Free Flow down for 3 years and have experienced none of the issues that you cite. Yes, hard to kneel on but so is concrete. I use a old furniture pad to kneel or lay on just as I did with my bare concrete. Good luck. CJDave.

That's great. I like your design and colors. How does a hyd. rollerjack, creeper and/or rolling stool move on your type of flooring ?

 

[CJDave]

My floor jack and rolling stool work just fine on the Free flow. I don't have a creeper but I think a creeper with the poly or plastic wheels would work well. The old fashioned steel blade type wheels that were made for concrete floors might be a problem. CJDave.

 

[James-W]

I have the diamond Racedeck tiles and a floor jack rolls just fine on it. I suspect anything with decent sized wheels would roll easily on whatever style of Racedeck tiles you have. Tile fading has never been an issue, but to be fair about it, I don't get much direct sunshine on the floor of my garage.

 

[bdamico]

Boy, guess you won't be getting much from Santa this year.

Don't worry,....be Christmassy ! (that should help with your attitude) lol

There's always issues with flooring, whether indoor or out, I'm just asking if there's something better,.... buddy. With my wife and I having a lot of pets, we changed from carpeting to hardwood to slate flooring, and each time it got much better.

Maybe a lot of DIY'ers are not preping well enough, unlike the pro's. Prepwork in every aspect is the most important part of the job.

Armorpoxy, I don't think I've heard of SPGX hybrid polyurea/polyaspartic, so I'll check out the website. Thanks.

You still haven't mentioned the king of garage flooring...

 

[427HISS]

The King ?

I've also seen video that, at least one that I watched, the sun warped the tile and the color died out as the door was on the west side. The same with me, and I have my door open alot, so I'm concerned with tiles and paint.

All of my wheels are 2"-3", no old dog steels.

 

[rsanter]

Grind and polish the floor, then use a stain to even the colors or to make a splotchy pattern that will hide the old staining

We have polished floors at work, they are great. Lots of foot traffic, forklifts, wheeled carts....all of it.
Sweeps, mops, or dust mops easily.
We strip and wax the floor once a year at most and the floor always looks good

Bob

 

[Armorpoxy]

We get almost no complaints of discoloration on any products but if this is a huge concern use a polyaspartic like SPGX or Spartacote or something similar since they are fully UV stable.

 

[Lelandwelds]

Peeling from tires is another way of saying "I did not prep or I didn't do it correctly".

I been inside race car garages, aircraft hangers, factory butcher plants, military aircraft strip and paint shops, factory, and busy warehouses. Epoxy, urethane, and the newer floors are tougher than either of us will ever need. I never knew which exact floor type I was walking on, but let me repeat, " that stuff is tougher than you will ever need".

I have been in hundred yo buildings with tile and brick floors. They have had dozens of different businesses in the space and when clean, it could pass for new. It would take two weeks of pressure washing and caustics but it would pass.

 

[427HISS]

I think Armorpoxy is best suited for my application, a semi working garage. I'll have to read how best to clean my embosed chemical soaked concrete floor.

Or, their SupraTile.

 

[Bluedodge]

Why aren't we also discussing the Mac-Daddy of garage floors?

 

[427HISS]

Haven't heard that brand before, but I'll check them out. The name just sounds cool.
Can't find a website ?

 

[Angelfire]

The King ?

I've also seen video that, at least one that I watched, the sun warped the tile and the color died out as the door was on the west side. The same with me, and I have my door open alot, so I'm concerned with tiles and paint.

All of my wheels are 2"-3", no old dog steels.

I find it hard to believe porcelain tile warped and lost color due to the sun. Can you post a link to the video?

 

[427HISS]

I did not say it was porcelain tile, plastic snap together. lol

 

[Angelfire]

Bdamico referred to the "King" which you referenced so hence my comment.

 

[427HISS]

Sorry, I know I have a blind eye, but I don' see king ?

 

[CJDave]

I did not say it was porcelain tile, plastic snap together. lol

What brand? My Race Deck shows no sign of fading after 3 + years. The garage faces south so when the overhead door is open, and that is a lot, the floor gets direct sun for much of the day. CJDave.

 

[427HISS]

I won't mention the brand here, but one of the top three.

A local received some sample tiles from two companys and laid them on his deck for a period of time in & out of the sun and one of the companys tiles faided. I assume a lower grade of plastic, different type, or has no uv protection added.

 

[ozyborn]

My garage is for working, not a showroom. I have just the stained concrete. Rubber mats near the work benches

 

[CJDave]

I won't mention the brand here, but one of the top three.

A local received some sample tiles from two companys and laid them on his deck for a period of time in & out of the sun and one of the companys tiles faided. I assume a lower grade of plastic, different type, or has no uv protection added.

Understood. CJDave.

 

[427HISS]

Any of you have the roll out mat ?

 

[427HISS]

Anyone use it ?

 

[Super Sport]

You didn't mention the king of garage flooring types...

You still haven't mentioned the king of garage flooring...

Why aren't we also discussing the Mac-Daddy of garage floors?

Bdamico referred to the "King" which you referenced so hence my comment.

What these guys are (not so politely) getting at is porcelain tile. Bdamico has a link to his install in his sig.

 

[427HISS]

I'm not asking about porcelain tile, it's the roll out rubber matt type.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NewAge-8-x...697749?hash=item3f6ee8ea55:g:1uwAAOSw2xRYfPHy

 

[Angelfire]

So, is there another product (besides having a newer concrete floor polished) that will work out much better than these types ?

I'm not asking about porcelain tile, it's the roll out rubber matt type.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NewAge-8-x...697749?hash=item3f6ee8ea55:g:1uwAAOSw2xRYfPHy

You asked for alternatives to the treatments you mentioned in your first post. Porcelain was offered up a number of times, as pointed out. Sounds like you've already made up your mind with the rubber mat.

 

[427HISS]

I've asked about different types of tiles, and matts, I haven't heard much about the matts.
So, where did you get the idea I've already made up my mind,....on anything ?

 

[Armorpoxy]

Hi, we carry epoxy, polyaspartic, tiles and mats. We prefer to recommend the tiles vs. the mats if going th non-coating route as the tiles are easier to install and fit, and usually much less waste since the mats only come in certain sizes. Mats also can shift and get waves, and lastly if you damage a mat there is no way to repair it i like coatings and tiles. If you damage a tile you can pop in a new one.