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I'm a Sales/Project Manager for a local telephone company, I'm responsible for all commercial fiber sales and VoIP phone service sales and then I'm responsible for managing the installation of all of them from start to finish, we currently do not have software for managing our sales or installs of the fiber or the VoIP phone systems, we just do it the old fashion way with pen and paper.

I just curious if any one out there has any experience with using Project Manager software that would cover my needs? any help would be appreciated.
 
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We have bounced around a lot of different options and I haven't used anything that I would say was gamechanger for us. Your needs are probably quite a bit different than mine, sounds like yours will have a lot more "projects" going at a time.

Currently, I am using Smartsheets for the bulk of my PM work. It has seemed pretty versatile and I don't mind using it. I am pretty sure there is a free trial option for it that you could use to try. I haven't run into too many things that it won't do. I am sure it would be better than Pen and Paper for you but it may not be ideal for the high number of smaller jobs you do. I only have a dozen or so going at a time and they can last for a year or more sometimes.

It might be good for you to put down all the things that you need the software to do and that might help you narrow down which offerings would be best. There are a million and a half different PM software options out there.
 

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Smartsheets as well here. It's pretty flexible and has a fair amount of features that can help with scheduling and task management. Their is good training available from them as well.
 

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I’ve used this around the farm. It’s fairly easy and cost little.
 

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For organizational use, I found clickup to be really nice. It has a lot of functionality for schedule/completion and tasking on it as well as inbuilt chat, file storage, and documentation abilities.

The trial is free but is is subscription based on a per-user base.

Sean
 

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We use Microsoft Project, with each project linked to master reporting documents to keep department managers up to speed with out constantly answering questions.
 

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I have always used Microsoft Project for large enterprise projects but it's overkill for anything less. Some of my vendors use SmartSheet and I think it works great for smaller projects.
 

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Yep, MS PM is good software (note: I'm not a fan of MS, but what works works).
 

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We use Microsoft Project, with each project linked to master reporting documents to keep department managers up to speed with out constantly answering questions.

I have always used Microsoft Project for large enterprise projects but it's overkill for anything less. Some of my vendors use SmartSheet and I think it works great for smaller projects.

I tried using Microsoft Project but found, for just a few medium size projects of 4-5 month duration at a time, it was more work than benefit. Plus, the people at the facilities I typically work with are not at the level/experience to interact with it. I wonder if the Op's projects are large, complex commercial ones or lots of small ones? I need to take a look at SmartSheet.
 

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I tried using Microsoft Project but found, for just a few medium size projects of 4-5 month duration at a time, it was more work than benefit. Plus, the people at the facilities I typically work with are not at the level/experience to interact with it. I wonder if the Op's projects are large, complex commercial ones or lots of small ones? I need to take a look at SmartSheet.
We used Smart Sheet in a PM class I took at college and for general purposes it was very similar. There are also some free Excell Gant charts, but they do not link tasks, all changes are manually entered. I am no expert in MS project by any means.
 

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I also use MS Project and when it comes to gantt charts and creating a project schedule it is fantastic, probably the best there is but that is about all it does. We use the stand alone product and I am curious if @ycgoat mentioned are features that are available in the online/cloud version? I have not used the cloud version but have heard it has other features not available in the stand alone product as I haven't looked into it. I do know the stand alone MS Project is expensive, more expensive than a lot of other offerings. The stand alone option has never struck me as a collaborative software.
 

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I also use MS Project and when it comes to gantt charts and creating a project schedule it is fantastic, probably the best there is but that is about all it does. We use the stand alone product and I am curious if @ycgoat mentioned are features that are available in the online/cloud version? I have not used the cloud version but have heard it has other features not available in the stand alone product as I haven't looked into it. I do know the stand alone MS Project is expensive, more expensive than a lot of other offerings. The stand alone option has never struck me as a collaborative software.
I am not the SME, I have an instruction of the file location and where to put the link in my specific project schedules. We have a dedicated PM who manages the processes and creates the custom reports with the fields they are interested in.
 
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We used Smart Sheet in a PM class I took at college and for general purposes it was very similar. There are also some free Excell Gant charts, but they do not link tasks, all changes are manually entered. I am no expert in MS project by any means.

I ended up taking bits of Microsoft PMs format/layout and made my own in excel. Very basic and mostly manual. Separate worksheet for a Gantt chart with a manual/semi-auto updates. I use conditional formatting and excel formulas to look for certain words on the PM worksheet and return a value to the Gantt chart based on what's there.
 

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I spent pretty close to 20 - 25 years supporting these types of software, as an IT specialist, and as a project manager. The issue is how large a scope does the OP wish to accomplish. What I mean by that is that some people are happy with just a daily spread sheet with cells for notes, other people want a fully functional software that goes all the way from marketing, to sales, thru installation, and all the way to billing, and support. Others want a software that keeps track of help tickets, allows them to be assigned to different people and departments, and print reports. The biggest issue is the human factor. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink is the old saying. One person may look forward to inputting the results of an event into the software but another may simply ignore it and not take the steps to forward or close the ticket. Some people will refuse to sit down at the computer to input data, and another will demand that they be able to do it from their smart phone. If laptops are used, some will end up stolen from trucks. All I am painting is that the thought of having a robust software is good, but the implementation is harder. One thing for sure, if robust for 10 - 20 staff or more, it WILL require an IT department to implement it, and resolve the glitches. If the budget will allow hiring such a person at $75,000 - $100,000 a year then it may work, but if "Sally" will be expected to do this work while doing her other work, it will not work. Companies like SalesForce, TrackIt, FreshService all have packages that can be converted to do some of these things, but they have to be customized to each company. Next, someone has to keep upgrading them as the service changes, employees come and go, custom reports are needed. On the other hand if there are only two or three people involved, a simple Excel spread sheet on a server can be used to keep track of things much the same as a white board approach. One thing that anyone doing this must understand is that no two people can be making changes at the same time in the same ticket. Hence the software must be constructed to keep track of sequential changes. If Excel for example is used, and Employee A opens the page to make an entry then leaves it open and goes home - everyone else is locked out until that spreadsheet is unlocked. That means if Employee A did not save their work and some one forces it unlocked, A's work is lost. Hence as I said, one can lead a horse to water but cannot make it drink. You'll get a call from customer Z asking when you are coming to see them, open the software and see that it is still showing a document is needed by Employee F who is out to lunch. Those things will still happen even with software.
 

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Atlassian JIRA. Can create an "epic" as the project, then make each phone as a task, assign it to whoever is installing and track them all that way
 

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We transitioned to Procore over the past year. I’m not a fan. I still have to use MS project for scheduling.
 

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Depending on what you are trying to do, you might also want to look at Kanban style project management software. Monday.com or Trello are a couple of popular ones, but there's many, including lots of free options.
 

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I would deem MS Project as a scheduling software, not really a Project Management software. It's fairly intuitive for what it is and certainly geared towards small / medium sized projects, and can be taught pretty easily. In my industry, P6 is the norm for all things Project Scheduling. A large step up in terms of what it can do, but also an enormous step up in terms of training, experience, and cost. On my current project, we already have a scheduling team of 10 of so, and we are still only in the design / site clearing phase. But it's a multi-billion dollar project. We'll end up with a schedule thats many hundreds of pages long if you were to try to print all buildings / all phases at once. You end up with schedulers who do the input and analysis, the experts who do all the configuration, and then the administration team that ensures that the P6 imports from all the trade partners flow in correctly and sync to everything else.

One of my first assignments after getting my engineering degree was as a construction scheduler 25 years ago, but that was back in the P3 days. I didn't have much desire to do design work, and wanted to move into Project Management. Now many projects are moving towards more alternative schedule techniques, such as Last Planner and TAKT, and away from the massive project schedules. Some interesting science behind it all if you are interested. LCI is a good place to start for further reading.

Procore certainly has it's uses, a lot of our companies use it. As Fred said above, it's about the software configuration. You can get a software configured to do exactly what you want, it's just time and the money to pay someone to do it, and then maintain it.
 

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I would deem MS Project as a scheduling software, not really a Project Management software. It's fairly intuitive for what it is and certainly geared towards small / medium sized projects, and can be taught pretty easily. In my industry, P6 is the norm for all things Project Scheduling. A large step up in terms of what it can do, but also an enormous step up in terms of training, experience, and cost. On my current project, we already have a scheduling team of 10 of so, and we are still only in the design / site clearing phase. But it's a multi-billion dollar project. We'll end up with a schedule thats many hundreds of pages long if you were to try to print all buildings / all phases at once. You end up with schedulers who do the input and analysis, the experts who do all the configuration, and then the administration team that ensures that the P6 imports from all the trade partners flow in correctly and sync to everything else.

One of my first assignments after getting my engineering degree was as a construction scheduler 25 years ago, but that was back in the P3 days. I didn't have much desire to do design work, and wanted to move into Project Management. Now many projects are moving towards more alternative schedule techniques, such as Last Planner and TAKT, and away from the massive project schedules. Some interesting science behind it all if you are interested. LCI is a good place to start for further reading.

Procore certainly has it's uses, a lot of our companies use it. As Fred said above, it's about the software configuration. You can get a software configured to do exactly what you want, it's just time and the money to pay someone to do it, and then maintain it.
I think the proper name is Primavera, wither it's P3 or P6, it's Primavera at heart. Just putting this out there for folks like the OP. I've been on the Primavera bus; unless you have very, very, very deep pockets and an entire scheduling department, this's is not what you want to use.
 

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Love these threads that ask how to get $150,000 of work for $200. Hire a programmer or stick to 3x5 cards.
 
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