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Looks very good, this spray foam insulation might be what I want for my next shop. A friend of mine did the first 4 ft of his shop to seal out all the vermin that seem to be able to find a way in at the ground level joint area. Are you going to do any paint or covering of the foam? Foam is also supposed to really quiet a metal building from rain and wind noise.
 
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Looks very good, this spray foam insulation might be what I want for my next shop. A friend of mine did the first 4 ft of his shop to seal out all the vermin that seem to be able to find a way in at the ground level joint area. Are you going to do any paint or covering of the foam? Foam is also supposed to really quiet a metal building from rain and wind noise.
I might do paint on the ceiling as an interim step, but plan is plywood or OSB for the walls, and metal panels for the ceiling.

On sound deadening, from the conversation with the Spray foam company sound control depends on the type of foam. Open cell is much better for blocking sound. I elected to do closed cell everywhere with additional open cell on the roof. I will be adding some mineral wool batts for sound deadening as it was cheaper and lets me do it on a more relaxed schedule. Right now it's still quite echoey.
 
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Not nearly as much progress as I would like, but also my own worst critic.

Put down the Ghostshield densifier and 8510 sealer. It's impressive to see it repel water. Interesting note is that I used about half of what was recommended by the installation manual. Not sure if it was because I put the densifier down first or what, but it is repelling oils and water like stated so oh well. Now I have 7 extra gallons so will be finding lots of random things to seal.
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Got the exterior light fixtures wired up as well as a few more 110 outlets. I have at least one more 220 set and a couple runs of 110 before I feel ready to start putting in the wall insulation, but moving along nicely.

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I am planning on spraying the ceiling with white paint to hide the nasty yellowing of foam, then installing the high bay lights. Current obsession this week is trying to diagnose some air quality issues (details in next post).
 
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The last couple of weeks since spray foam, I have been trying to diagnose an air quality issue with the shop and frankly just don't have enough understanding of the potential sources of contamination to solve the issue. Hoping somebody might have some insight in how to diagnose and resolve.

A semi strong odor of spray foam smell has lingered the entire time since application of foam. Usually an indicator of bad mix and off gassing which i'm still not ruling out, but decided to go through CYA steps and gather data before coming back to the installer.

Left the big bay doors open dawn to dusk for about a week and a half hoping that any latent off gassing or stale air from application would be the culprit and go away. the smell definitely dissipated during the day, but close up shop it would come back just as strong in the morning.

Contacted the installer company and asked them some questions about how we could fix. Certainly responsive and concerned about the issue, but the approach was deflection to a degree. Totally understand the approach.

With this, I figured gathering real data is a good first step before they have to run core samples and re apply. Ended up ordering a wearable air quality monitor that probably isn't perfect, but gets us within ballpark. The initial numbers aren't great, but also not what I expected.

- VOC's while a bit elevated, are well within the "good" range and steady. This would indicate no off gassing and no bad cure.
- Particulate matter is nasty nasty and a couple hours in this without a mask I was coughing and had a decent amount of phlegm.

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Decided to try an experiment and run some homemade HEPA filters. Within an hour I noticed a measurable improvement and overnight was within "good levels". Decided to run them for a couple days and leave everything closed up to keep anything bad from getting stirred up. The only note from my various data points was that even with the filters running, there was a jump in particulate during the daytime heat.

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After two days said okay, should have cleared out quite a bit of bad from the air. I'll try turning them off and see how long it takes for numbers to drop.

Within 6 hours we were back to the same amount of bad dust in the air which makes no sense to me.

I'm kind of at a loss, and really hoping this isn't a spray foam problem. Anybody have insights?
 

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Stupid questions. I’m assuming your insulation is to blame? Is that what you’re thinking as well?

Can you do something aggressive like run a backpack leaf blower and knock all the loose stuff loose with your hepa filters running? I wouldn’t think there would be anything to come loose but I obviously don’t know anything.

Is there a Paint or sealer you can apply that will seal the surface?

Just thinking out loud.
 
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Stupid questions. I’m assuming your insulation is to blame? Is that what you’re thinking as well?

Can you do something aggressive like run a backpack leaf blower and knock all the loose stuff loose with your hepa filters running? I wouldn’t think there would be anything to come loose but I obviously don’t know anything.

Is there a Paint or sealer you can apply that will seal the surface?

Just thinking out loud.
Yes, im making the assumption that the insulation is the culprit. Unfortunately i just dont have enough information to make an educated guess and just throwing randomn b.s. ideas at the problem.

Started running a shopvac along the horizontal surfaces to try to gather some stuff up. I'm tempted to apply paint but also not entirely enthusiastic to throw money down the drain if it doesn't work.

The spray foam person also said the heat might be affecting things, so there is an option to install my minisplit heads and crank it down to see if it drops the numbers.

In trying to google things I'm only coming up with generic green companies against spray foam and people trying to sell me something.
 

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I don’t see how heat could cause particulate. Definitely off gassing but not particulate. Paint is relatively cheap. Could probably roll on everything but the ceiling fairly easily.
 

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Sort of an old hippie here. Dropped the hippie years ago but kept the old for some reason. So how about a black light? Use to see all kinds of stuff floating in the air. The idea would be to see if something jumps out or if it’s widespread. I’m with rubberdown on the particulate vs off gassing theory. Best of luck as it’s a great looking shop.
 
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Thanks for the compliments. That isn't a terrible idea on isolating the source. I have a couple of ideas on running my D.I.Y. HEPA filters as well. I am starting the paint process as while it's not exactly throwaway money, it is cheaper than the alternative.
Sort of an old hippie here. Dropped the hippie years ago but kept the old for some reason. So how about a black light? Use to see all kinds of stuff floating in the air. The idea would be to see if something jumps out or if it’s widespread. I’m with rubberdown on the particulate vs off gassing theory. Best of luck as it’s a great looking shop.
 
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Generally quiet weekend on shop work. Fathers day and pool time took up most of the activities. Had an extra day off and was able to throw paint on the ceiling. This was to experiment with dusting sources as well as cover the ugly yellow before I put my lights up. If this does mitigate some of the dust issues I will feel a lot better moving forward. If not have some extra paint to try hitting some of the wall sections.

The stupidity in my experimentation to lessen dust is I decided to reuse the plastic wrap I had laid down for spray foam. So basically rather than lessen dust, I brought back in more than I had before. Being cheap isn't always the right approach. I now have a lot of shopvac time in my future.

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any luck with some improvement?
I'm still tracking data, but initial results are that it doesn't kind of improve things, it dramatically improves it. Sorry for incoming wall of text and pictures.

Having an extra 10 gallons of paint I elected to start shooting the walls earlier this week. Coverage was much better on closed cell. I was able to get probably 65% of the wall foam covered.

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Measuring the last couple days the VOC count is staying the same and within acceptable, but the "particulate matter" dust has dropped like a stone and doesn't seem to be coming back. Some results below on tracking data throughout the day.

A morning reading right after running the redneck HEPA filters overnight. Focus on the PM numbers which are sized based parts per million readings.

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Lunch time reading shows almost no change in the dust readings which is what you would expect, but not what had been happening.

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An after work reading starts to show a bit of a spike, but not nearly the jump I was seeing before painting the foam.

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Compare this to a reading after running the HEPA filters overnight and turning off for 6 hours BEFORE PAINTING. Here you can see a massive spike that was consistent across multiple days of testing.

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In doing more research, the only thing I have found that might be a smoking gun on why it was happening was from a different brands memo

At this point I have enough data to justify spending money on another 10 gallons of kilz and come to two conclusions

- the dust issues seem to have been resolved
- the insulation seems to be doing it's job of insulating.
 

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well that is great to hear! I am glad things are looking up on that front. I don't know how you could have fixed it without ripping everything out had it not.
 
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Good yet unexpected news on shop progressions. I have a driveway!

Precursor to all this is we have been working on a landscape plan with a designer, and they referred us to a company who could manage executing the full vision from end to end. Knew it would be high, but what we got back for an estimate was so insanely, astronomically out of question it was laughable. One of those things that was in scope was the driveway which was about 3x what the price should have been.

Thursday I called the concrete guy I used for the shop pour (the good one, not the dirt bag) to see if he wanted to make a bid on the driveway. Friday he shows up, gives me a bit high but reasonable price, says he can start Monday. I told him I needed to talk to the wife about finances and logistics and would get back to him but in general sounds good. Talked to the wife and she quickly okayed, but decided to wait until Monday to get back to him on the go ahead.

Well, some wires got crossed because guess who showed up Monday morning bright and early. Caught me a bit off guard but since I was going to use them and they do good work, I decided to let it continue. This was after about an hour and a half.

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It really was a pleasure to watch them work. No wasted motion, nobody sitting idle. Everybody just knowing what they were doing and doing it well. He said he was planning on pouring next day and I had serious doubts, but by 6 PM they only had a few loose ends that could be ******* in the morning.

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Showed up the next morning bright and early, and quickly ******* all the loose ends before the trucks showed up at 9. We were at a point where people were relaxed and waiting around which is exactly what you want. No mad scrambling to get things done.

A few hours, 50 yards, and a bunch of work later I have a good, well drained driveway. Couple things could have gone better, but overall very happy with the result and the turnaround. I now have some concrete to water and about 45 yards of spare dirt to spread around my property.

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Aziz! Light!

Still have to get the 3-way switches working right, but at least I can see what I'm doing now.

it's plenty bright, but honestly not as crazy bright as I was expecting 100 footcandles to be. I'm curious to measure it just to see how it's doing.

Next step is a long overdue cleanup and organization.

After a year and a half the fun money has about run out, so probably no more real endeavors on the shop for the rest of the year. Only thing left is to hook up the minisplit heads that have been sitting for over a year.

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Not much to report. Minor cleanup, nowhere near done on that. Got minisplit heads mounted today. Hopefully will be able to knock out hooking everything up in the next week or two when I get a spare day.

Started throwing together a rolling air compressor cabinet from some leftover OSB and Plywood. Portable air compressor is just heavy and awkward enough to justify setting that up until I get a full shop compressor. I'll spare the photos of that as cabinet maker is not in my skillset yet.

I had a slight oversight on lights wiring so going to have to burn a couple hours to fix that eventually.

Overall, shop is a highly usable space and is actively being used. I'll keep chipping away at things. Based on the quote we got for putting together the steel planters, I think that will be my first big project in here.
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Not that you can tell as last two photos are practically identical, but got the linesets and wiring cleaned up inside and the shop AC is on. Ran a test to see if with current amount it could cool it to 70. After about 4 hours it went from 100 -> 78, and I decided to call it a night.

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I still have a few things to button up for the install. The condensation lines provided by Mr. Cool are not exactly ideal, so going to run some 3/4" PVC for a little cleaner setup and peace of mind. One of the heads has either a clog or a kink and is leaking water out the front so need to get that fixed. Also need to do some work around sealing holes with can foam.

I really don't like drilling holes in my buildings frame, but hoping it was over engineered and the spray foam will help.

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Other fun news is I picked up a new, heavier CFM compressor for free. I still intend to buy an Emax eventually, but if I need to spray or run a plasma cutter it will hold me over for a few years. Just need to do a maintenance overhaul and rewire for 220.

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More little victories. After a year and a half I finally get to park my project truck in the shop.

It looks like my current level of insulation isn't quite enough for Texas heat. set it at 79, and at 106+ the lowest it could manage is 81. The positive is that it is quite comfortable at that temperature, so will suffice for the time being. I'm assuming with another layer of batts and insulated doors it will do much better.

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106 outside and it's 81 inside the shop? Yea Id call that a win in good ol'Texas heat!!

One thing I don't miss about Texas was the heat.

Your dent side truck reminds me of my 79 ranger I had, kind of wish I never sold it but didn't have much choice at the time.
 
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I have nothing really of value added in terms of shop productivity, but going to add content for fun. Life has been busy with work, wife, kid, all that.

Shop Progress:
- Internet went down for the house for a day, so with some extra downtime ran ethernet out there and now have wifi in shop. Game changer and happy with that.
- on north wall ran outlets up high on a switch so I can run neon lights eventually. A bit preemptive, but trying to get everything in wall done before I add paneling.
- baseboard and air line planning for walls. Can't justify the expense for insulation so holding off for the time being.
- place is a mess. In a weird paralysis loop where I don't want to start organizing and building storage solutions until I have walls up. As a result it just keeps feeling more and more cluttered.
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Shop plans 2024
- At the moment until I can justify spending money on a couple pallets of mineral wool, the focus is getting rid of piles outside. Piles of wood, piles of rock, piles of unfinished trim installed, etc. If I can get rid of the piles it will help with future organization just aesthetic. Some examples below
- Since we have the pool in place, getting the landscaping done is a big priority to make us a good hosting environment. That also comes with some side goals of getting shop bathroom/septic setup, running some electrical for outdoor tv, getting speakers setup outside. Ambition is at war with realities in my life constantly.
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Misc:
- I always keep an eye out for a 1948-1953 Chevrolet panel suburban as a project, and one finally popped up in the area. Took a look and decided it was a bit too much project even though they are incredibly hard to come by. Hopefully another one pops up sometime.
- Bought a Primeweld plasma cutter on black Friday. Not a hypertherm, but the price was right and hoping it will work.
- Wife gave me some free time to help install a lift kit on my buddies setup. Good motivator for buying a 2-post lift.
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A not workshop garage issue. Took out the trash last night to hear quite a bit of water coming from the water heater drain valve. Lots of water accumulating in the catch pan. Drained the water heater and tested everything to the same effect. 4 year old water heater with a bad tank, crying shame.

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Decided to take it out and look into a swap/upgrade. The closet was too small to be conducive for an easy upgrade to a hybrid tank, so a direct replacement was the best option.

In the strangest of coincidences, googled a plumber in the area. First one that popped up had a name that was oddly familiar. Wait, is that the one of my friends and football teammates from college? Since graduation I had completely forgotten that he was in the area and his family had been running a plumbing business for decades. A quick call and catch up,and he set me straight on a warranty replacement for the tank. For $30 in pipe dope and fittings I was back in business.
 
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With the arrival of the plasma cutter and things winding down at work for the holidays, I allowed myself to get distracted and do rudimentary plumbing of the air system. Everything went together really simply, and the only leak issues I have been able to detect so far are with 40 year old couplers I tried to reuse. It will all be run much cleaner once I get the batts insulation and wall panels up, which i'm looking forward to.

Oh yeah, the plasma cutter is a lot of fun and appears to be a game changer.
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Little bit of cleanup and the place is feeling much. better. I need to do some car maintenance before the drive to sisters for Christmas. The recent brake pad replacement for my truck has one of the calipers sticking, and not sure why.

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With holidays around the corner, I figured I had a chance to learn a new skill and actually use the shop I have spent so much time working on. What better way to do that by making a gift.

My mother in law likes to paint as a hobby, and I figured that a relatively straightforward gift would be building some canvas frames for her to use.

Started by building a basic jig to cut the mitered bridle joints. Learned a lot in the process of building it.

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After about 6 hours of messing around, I finally got a remotely acceptable practice joint cut out.

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Now that I had my setups done, I decided it was time to give production go. This is where I ran into a problem. For this level of gift I wanted to stick to cheap and already milled to size wood, which meant sticking to what came out of Home Depot. As one knows, wood from there is about as straight as a dogs hind leg, and in standard 1x2 it twists, bows, and warps more than I thought was possible. Because of this I decided to switch to 2x2 which improved quality, but I was still throwing away 25% of the stock due to defects.

With a bit of cutting and sorting I was able to crank out a few. None of them are what I would classify as decent quality, but for her hobbyist work it will more than suffice. $35 in wood and duckcloth, and another $15 tool and I had a few frames. I am not proud of the quality of work, but man did I have a lot of fun doing it.

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In a fun development, decided to order some materials for a couple big projects this year.

Got some tubing for a few projects including welding table.

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The big bulk of the 10292 pound order though was 25 sheets of 1/4" steel plate. When we got our outrageous quote from the landscaping company they were thankfully very thorough in their bid, which prescribed a full list of materials to complete the steel planters. Just ended up ordering the amount of plate they required to get it installed. Fun fact. Two shmucks using tractor bucket forks to unload 326 pound plates is not a smooth exercise. The delivery driver was not especially pleased.

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It is going to be one of the larger projects I have pulled off but looking forward to it. It's a good skill exercise, and an even better excuse for lots of tools. So far that includes a plasma cutter, engine hoist, plate clamp, magnet, and materials for a welding table. I am welcome to plenty of other suggestions :LOL: .
 

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It's nice to see you using the new shop! Looking forward to seeing how the steel planters and welding table turn out. My welding table was my first welding project.
 
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It's nice to see you using the new shop! Looking forward to seeing how the steel planters and welding table turn out. My welding table was my first welding project.
Thank you! It's nice to be able to a proper over the top project for a (outside of here) over the top shop.

Far from my first welding project, but this will be my first welding table. I have a 3/8" plate that I have stored in a corner for years that is just getting too hard to lug on and off of sawhorses anymore.

The idea I have been working on is not one big, but two 4'x4' tables that can be mated into one as needed. one is plate for beating on, the other is spaced out tubing for use of clamps.The difficulty is getting all the things that are a priority for me in the same project

- Movable. Has to be on casters
- lower section "shelf", has to be as low as possible to maximize storage
- hitch tube points for mounting things like vise, grinder, tube bender, etc.
- minor adjustable height in case of variation in floor.
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You said you were open to suggestions, so here goes! On your welding table only put wheels on one end. On the other end do solid legs that can adjust for floor variations. Then in the middle of those legs weld either a post or a cup to capture the lift point of your floor jack (you do have a floor jack, don’t you?), then when you want to move your welding table it’s a simple jack up and move it scenario. By not having casters on that end you won’t have to worry about the table moving on you or your prying and beating on metal overcoming the brakes on the casters.
 
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You said you were open to suggestions, so here goes! On your welding table only put wheels on one end. On the other end do solid legs that can adjust for floor variations. Then in the middle of those legs weld either a post or a cup to capture the lift point of your floor jack (you do have a floor jack, don’t you?), then when you want to move your welding table it’s a simple jack up and move it scenario. By not having casters on that end you won’t have to worry about the table moving on you or your prying and beating on metal overcoming the brakes on the casters.
Interesting idea. I have been playing around with something along the lines. I ordered some total lock casters hoping they would hold up, but the big thing is I didn't want to lose 6.5" of height to just wheels. Would eat into the lower shelf dimension.

Though ugly, my idea that matches up is put the casters on some sort of outrigger mount. Get a piece of M20 all-thread welded up to the caster plate, then be able to spin it up and down to adjust as needed. It's a toe stubbing nightmare, but a potential 8 cubic feet back under the bench.
 
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After a few weeks of sneaking out for 20 minutes at a time I have made some progress on the tables, but hitting a technology snag at the moment.

Starting with current state, and then flash to the beginning (Tarintino style)
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Actual Build Process:
Started on building out the frame for the fab table with the plate. Nothing special about that process. Cut it to spec, weld out, realize you made a measurement mistake, decide you can live with it.

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After that, I put in a 1" tube frame on the lower section to hold the lower shelf. I thought about sheet metal, but elected for expanded metal for ease and to allow grinding dust to go through.

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After extensive internal debate on how to mount casters, I elected to go with a basic directly under the leg approach. Any other design I came up with just stuck out too much to make sense. I ended up just getting a 3/4" nut welded to a piece of 3/16" plate, and welded it to the bottom of the leg. a 10" long piece of 3/4" all-thread runs through with a lock nut, and another plate to bolt the caster to. Here is a close up detail shot.
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After that, it was flip it over, adjust the caster height, and drop the plate on top and table #1 is in a semi usable state.
 
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Table 2 and Limitations:

I will spare you a number of details on table #2 as it's largely the same as #1. I will however add a detail on my overkill clamping to get the legs assembled. For this project I decided to get some squares, 1-2-3 blocks, and shims from Fireball tool I have been eyeing for quite some time. I could have likely done this with magnetic clamps, but when all you have is a hammer...
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The difference on table #2 is I wanted to use 1x3 1/8" wall tube as the top, all on 1.5" spacing in between tubes. This was loosely inspired by The Fabrication Series table build. It is the hopes that it will be sturdy, relatively cheap, and allow me to clamp as needed when assembling future projects. Small detail on adding clamp storage to #2.

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Part of the idea with the heavy wall 2.5" tube frame is I can do hitch receiver mounts for various tools. As a design it's nothing fancy, but highly effective. I have already built a mount for my vise and bench grinder, and will build one for my jd32 tool bender next. I also plan on adding more hitch receivers on both tables before painting.

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Lessons Learned/Limitations:

- So far, they have been excellent build surfaces and a good way to brush the cobwebs off my welding skills.

- Storage is still getting figured out. It doesn't sound like much, but losing 32 square feet in shop floor space does make a difference. I am still trying to figure out how to maximize the cubic feet of storage under the tables, and am shopping for a decent 27" mid chest to fit underneath. Layout will likely change multiple times throughout their lifetime.

- I probably should have been patient on tube steel table and made sections removable. It already isn't as flat as I would like, so when the pieces inevitably warp from heat, replacement will be a pain.

- I am lacking the precision I wanted in my current tool collection. My current top is a 3/8" i've had for years. The tube table top uses 1" steel. The goal from the beginning was that I could make the tables flush and link them together for one "super table" as needed. To do that, I attempted to cut a bunch of 5/8" spacers for the plate to sit on and help line things up.

The problem with that is my abrasive chop saw tends to wander quite badly from the top to the bottom of the cut. I can nail the 5/8" mark initially, but even being careful the bottom of the cut wanders off by as much as 1/8". This unfortunately makes the spacer useless. I have wanted an Ellis 1600 band saw, but can't justify the price until I find a way for it to pay for itself (which is never). An Evolution miter saw might work, but still a tough pill to swallow price wise.

- my bench grinder kind of *****. Fine for most applications it's fine, but 1/3 HP just doesn't have enough juice for removing steel. I will be upgrading that in the future.

- These were still expensive. It's not fixture table expensive, but with steel, casters, hardware for mounting, and various other accessories the tube table was over $600 to build. That doesn't include my time (~10 hours/table), or the new toys to help build it ($1200). If your goal is to learn or just have fun building something the exercise makes sense. Otherwise buying your way out of a problem has it's merits.
 

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tables look nice!

question on the hitch receivers. do you have something to lock them in once inserted? of it just friction/gravity/weight? I plan on doing something similar but smaller scale when I get my shop going.
 
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tables look nice!

question on the hitch receivers. do you have something to lock them in once inserted? of it just friction/gravity/weight? I plan on doing something similar but smaller scale when I get my shop going.
Thank you!

Yes, I did add a way to secure them. Drilled a hole with the step bit, then welded on a 1/2" nut. The bolt clamps the inner tube down with force. Nothing fancy, but haven't needed anything better yet. It makes it feel much more solid when I'm cranking on something in the vice.

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Life has been busy so don't have much progress to report on the shop. It's been in a good enough state for quite some time, so it's just been about various metalwork and landscape projects this year anyway. That being said, I did want to document a couple things for posterities sake.

Decided to put in an order for some fiberglass batts insulation. Even with a 4 ton unit and spray foam, cooling was not keeping up in the 100+ degree Texas weather. Will need to order more to finish out the walls, but hopefully this will help as well as sound deadening for the neighbors. Ignore the random rigid foam. I had some spare sitting around and knew it would fit there.

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With that I am also putting up some of the first layer of wall paneling. It's slow, but speed is not the goal of things at the moment. I am trying to get this corner fully paneled so I can put in a storage rack I'm building.

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To get ready for the summer pool season, we also decided to spruce up the shop patio bit by bit. Started with a seating area a couple months ago, and just got the power and cat6 setup for the tv. So far it has been a fantastic addition.

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The past month has had many projects and minimal progress on each of them. Life, work, and social calendars are the bane of the DIY class.

The biggest one has been around getting the planters around the pool deck built out, with a deadline of early July. The landscape design calls for 9 planter beds, but my focus is on the 4 around the pool deck. This will allow us to finalize the design and install of the pool fence for the kid(s). Riley has proven to love the water and is difficult to keep out of the pool, so safety is paramount

Here are a couple photos of the building of the current largest planter at 4'x34'. Getting it running straight has been the biggest challenge
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The other challenge was moving it. a few $10 Harbor Freight furniture dollies allowed us to move it into place.
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Here it is in it's general place, along with another 2.5'x21' planter in the back. I currently have 3/4 around pool deck planters built/placed, though I need to set the two in the photos properly. You can see a kink in the center section where I pushed on one end and torqued it. Will need to see what can be done about straightening that out.
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The biggest challenge will be the last one. It is the longest by 20', requires a terraced install, and setting the reveal from the wavy concrete edge will add to the difficulty. I am starting with a string line and working from there.
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Here you can see my attempt from trying to grind down one of the waves. This is where the form bowed by about 3/4". Nasty work. Terrible idea. Glad I tried it.PXL_20240530_155833018.jpg
 
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On the positive I making some progress on the wall paneling/insulation. Made it through most of the insulation that I ordered, and the wall paneling is going relatively smoothly.

Now I need to decide on what color scheme to go with for wainscotting. Thinking black/grey. Thoughts?
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Had plans cancel today so was able to put some kilz on the wall paneling. there is still a few touch up spots, but happy to get the big work done. Hoping to get the paint knocked out in this corner soon to get the storage rack in place.
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Lost a good chunk of today getting the planter along the fence line set and straight. Wasn't expecting it to take quite so long, but my labor is free and it got done which is what matters.

The plan for keeping it from shifting has always been to put the planters on "pillars" of concrete in the dirt with Rebar shoved in, and weld the rebar to the side of the planter. Decided to tack first before setting the concrete. Bought a 50' 50 amp cord from Primeweld recently which has been helpful.

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Overall, it's setting and looking decent. One bow near the fence I can't get worked out. Hopefully i'm the only one who really notices.
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Couple more panels up in one wall section. I'm trying to get this buttoned up in the next couple weeks so I can stop having to move junk off the walls and get a tv mounted (highlighted spot in red).

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