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Recently Ive discovered that in Germany, they say "Hat-zet", while Ive always just said Hay-zet.
And yesterday I heard someone on a youtube review for Stahlwille, say it "Stall-villa" (sort of)
I always thought of it as "Stahl-Willy"

And If you browse amazon.de, the tools are listed as "steele wille"

the Stahlwille advent calendar is pretty cool, anyway
 
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I would say, yes, your phonetic descriptions are about right for German pronunciation.

Might be a little more like Shtall-villeh.
 
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Yes, you’re right!

We all learnt ‘rules’ for pronunciation in school (well most of us did - but I do wonder sometimes!) and German is fundamentally no different, there are just a couple of different rules.

One is that a ‘w’ is generally pronounced as a ‘v’ so ‘Stahlwille’ is pronounced ‘Stahl - villa’ as you suggest. I think most folks get that. I’ve never heard it pronounced ‘Stahl - willy’ in the U.K. - maybe I’ve been lucky!

Despite speaking a little German I pronounced ‘Hazet’ as it is spelt for many years, and so do most Brits, and only got corrected when buying tools in Germany. I’ve never heard it pronounced ‘Hay-zet’. I suppose that’s an Americanism,

Perhaps we should write out a list of phrases for travelling GJers! Much to buy in Germany, in my experience!
 
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I'm pretty horrible when it comes to pronunciation in my native English let alone other languages. I usually think of Hazet as HA ZIT and Stahlwille as STALL WILL. I pronounce Knipex with a silent K like knife or knight. Probably wrong but aside from Knipex nobody I know even knows these other brands so they probably don't know how to say it either.
 
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I laughed at the Real tool reviews youtube guy for saying Ka-Nipex but then realized thats how the Germans really say it, haha!
 
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The "k" is definitely voiced in German. And the "i" is pronounced like the German vowel, more like our American/English "e" than our "i".

So think "K'ni-pex" or "Kuh-nee-pex" if you want to pronounce it the German way.
 
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One thing I never understood about American pronunciation is when they talk about garden herbs that you eat & use in food they pronounce it as 'erbs' when it is written and spelt with an 'h' in front and should be pronounced like 'her-b-z' ......errbs makes me chuckle.
 
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CR888 said:
One thing I never understood about American pronunciation is when they talk about garden herbs that you eat & use in food they pronounce it as 'erbs' when it is written and spelt with an 'h' in front and should be pronounced like 'her-b-z' ......errbs makes me chuckle.
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A lot of culinary terms come from the Latin/Romance side of our language. We probably adopted the French pronunciation, where the "aitch" isn't voiced.

It's hard sometimes to react appropriately when my best friend says he's "aahn-gry". I don't know whether to apologize for something or feed him.

Luckily, he's an easy-going sort and food is usually the solution.
 
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Nobody mention Knipex :Twitch:
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KNEE- pex I went to Knipex.de and listened to them pronounce it...a bunch of times. Unlike English, the K is not silent and runs together with the N.

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Once you get into regional pronounciation you open a whole can of worms How do the English get CLARK out if clerk? In the US, we pronounce solder "soder" but the Brits pronounce it as spelled. They have a whole different word for aluminum, with an extra sylable. We use the French pronounciation for filet, "filay" but in England they say "fill-it". Somebody described us as two countries separated by a common language.
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One thing I never understood about American pronunciation is when they talk about garden herbs that you eat & use in food they pronounce it as 'erbs' when it is written and spelt with an 'h' in front and should be pronounced like 'her-b-z' ......errbs makes me chuckle.
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4xdog said:
I would say, yes, your phonetic descriptions are about right for German pronunciation.

Might be a little more like Shtall-villeh.
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Yes, it should be SHTALL-vill-uh or something along those lines. A lot of people who correctly sound the "-e" don't know that the "st-" is a completely different sound in German. Take "stadt" for example - it sounds like "shtot", not "stat" or "stot".
 
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Just seeing the word and not knowing it's German, I would have said hozz-et. But now that I know it's German, my high school German expresses itself and it's become haht-zset when I hear it in my head.

Stahlwille is obviously German, so I would have pronounced it schtall-villeh in proper Hochdeutsch.

Here's another mispronounced German brand: Adidas. In America, everyone says ah-DEED-ahs, but the actual pronunciation is (approximately) AH-dee-dozz.

And as long as we're doing this: Who remembers Kraftwerk? It's not pronounced craft-work. It's more like krahft-vairk.
 
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CR888 said:
One thing I never understood about American pronunciation is when they talk about garden herbs that you eat & use in food they pronounce it as 'erbs' when it is written and spelt with an 'h' in front and should be pronounced like 'her-b-z' ......errbs makes me chuckle.
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A "herb" in the US is a Dweeb or a Geek

An "ERB" (herb) is something in a garden :)
 
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Lets veer off a little and discuss terms which we might not hear where we live.

Has anyone ever heard Edd China refer to an air impact gun as a "Windy-gun" ? That stuff cracks me up. I love all of the British terms for everything.
"good nick"...
"knackered up"
...etc etc
 
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Just go to Google translate, pick German to English then click the sound icon. They have native speaker voices that will tell you pronunciation. I collect perfumes. Many are French. I don't speak French; so, I use that to learn how to say the fragrance names.
 
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