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FNFS2000

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The world as we know it is changing drastically for the worse. And I'm talking much bigger than just hand tools.
 

Costner

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Actually Walmart is just acting as the intermediary here. If you actually click on the tools they are sold and shipped by a third party, so this is much like Amazon advertising items that are actually sold by others.

Either way - I care less about who is selling it and more about who made it. Except maybe when buying a car... but if I could buy a car on Amazon.com and avoid the salesperson I might do that too!
 

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Twilight Zone...As others have said, Walmart.com is trying to be another Amazon. They do not physically stock and sell Proto, Wright, SK, Armstrong, etc.
 

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If I was a manufacturer, I would not allow my tools to be listed at places like that. Don't care who completes the sale, as far as the public is concerned its sold at walmart.com
 

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If I was a manufacturer, I would not allow my tools to be listed at places like that. Don't care who completes the sale, as far as the public is concerned its sold at walmart.com

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The public loves walmart...
Did you not realize walmart is making money?
A manufacturer would be foolish to not sell its product through walmart.com
 

FNFS2000

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The public loves walmart...
Did you not realize walmart is making money?
A manufacturer would be foolish to not sell its product through walmart.com

Any mfg that cares about its reputation stays far away. What clothing brands do you find there? Mountain Hardwear, nope- Marmot, nope- North Face,nope- how about shoes? Asolo? Footprints? Lowa? Birkenstock? (even mid grade brands like merrell, Nike, Addidas, New Balance, etc etc etc, have no interest in the big bad box) the list goes on for miles of high end brands that flee the thought of walmart.
 

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Any mfg that cares about its reputation stays far away. What clothing brands do you find there? Mountain Hardwear, nope- Marmot, nope- North Face,nope- how about shoes? Asolo? Footprints? Lowa? Birkenstock? (even mid grade brands like merrell, Nike, Addidas, New Balance, etc etc etc, have no interest in the big bad box) the list goes on for miles of high end brands that flee the thought of walmart.

Is it because the companies refuse to be sold in Wal Mart or Wal Mart refuses to sell the brands. Perhaps Wal Mart doesn't want to sell those brands because they know the Birkenstock buyers would not be caught dead in Wal Mart so why bother stocking it.

I don't actually know, that's why I'm wondering.

Coach
 
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Is it because the companies refuse to be sold in Wal Mart or Wal Mart refuses to sell the brands. Perhaps Wal Mart doesn't want to sell those brands because they know the Birkenstock buyers would not be caught dead in Wal Mart so why bother stocking it.

I don't actually know, that's why I'm wondering.

Coach

Any mfg that cares about its reputation stays far away. What clothing brands do you find there? Mountain Hardwear, nope- Marmot, nope- North Face,nope- how about shoes? Asolo? Footprints? Lowa? Birkenstock? (even mid grade brands like merrell, Nike, Addidas, New Balance, etc etc etc, have no interest in the big bad box) the list goes on for miles of high end brands that flee the thought of walmart.

All those companies are in business to make money, they would love to be in Wal Mart and Wal Mart would love to have them. Problem is, Wal Mart is in business to make money also, and they demand a ton from their suppliers. There is no way those companies will sell their products to Wal Mart at the prices Wal Mart wants to pay for them.
 

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All those companies are in business to make money, they would love to be in Wal Mart and Wal Mart would love to have them. Problem is, Wal Mart is in business to make money also, and they demand a ton from their suppliers. There is no way those companies will sell their products to Wal Mart at the prices Wal Mart wants to pay for them.

Exactly, it has little or nothing to do with reputation.
 

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Any mfg that cares about its reputation stays far away. What clothing brands do you find there? Mountain Hardwear, nope- Marmot, nope- North Face,nope- how about shoes? Asolo? Footprints? Lowa? Birkenstock? (even mid grade brands like merrell, Nike, Addidas, New Balance, etc etc etc, have no interest in the big bad box) the list goes on for miles of high end brands that flee the thought of walmart.


Sony, Nikon, Apple, and many, many more manufacturers who care about their reputations sell their stuff at Walmart.

You can't buy Nike shoes there but you can buy Nike golf balls.
 

KraftwerkMk1Jetta

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Any mfg that cares about its reputation stays far away. What clothing brands do you find there? Mountain Hardwear, nope- Marmot, nope- North Face,nope- how about shoes? Asolo? Footprints? Lowa? Birkenstock? (even mid grade brands like merrell, Nike, Addidas, New Balance, etc etc etc, have no interest in the big bad box) the list goes on for miles of high end brands that flee the thought of walmart.

That's a pretty bold statement to make. Off the top of my head I can think of some great brands with great reputations sold at walmart. Sony, Apple, Samsung. As far as the yuppie clothing companies you listed not being sold at walmart, there's a reason for that, it's not their demographic. The average Joe shopping at walmart for clothes isn't interested in North Face or Birkenstock. Come on now. He's in there to buy some new Dickies or a cheap Starter hooded sweatshirt to wear to work. All of those mid grade brands you mentioned like Nike are just slightly better quality Made in China goods anyway, they're just overpriced because of their brand name. I'm not flying the flag for Walmart, but you're post just isn't realistic.
 

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Costner has it right. It is called the Walmart Marketplace. Ordered items are usually shipped directly from the supplier no inventory onhand. This lessens the cost markups at distributors. Good for all the companies involved, and the consumer.
 

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Target marketing. They only are going to stock things in the store that their walk in customers are willing to buy. The majority of customers going into a Walmart are not going in looking for high end tools. It is some old guy going to get a screw driver with his wife who thinks that a screwdriver is something that you pound on, pry with, or otherwise abuse, and that the cheapest screw driver is as good as the expensive screwdriver. Just my opinion. Now there are companies that find it morally reprehensible to sell their products at Walmart, but I think that they are actually more concerned with diluting their brand, and don't want to have to deal with Walmart buyers who are constantly wanting a price break.
 
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walmart sells ski masks too, right next to the gun section. convienant!

i wonder if they sell hacksaws next to the shotguns, and a childrens section next to the religous wear, how about chips and dip next to the big and tall section, or for the skinny people clothes right next to an empty food rack....
 

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I have a different take on Walmart. I do not work there or own any stock.

When Walmart came to my town many years ago a long standing hardware store had to close its doors. The staff was laid off. I have a buddy who worked at that store for 10 years and held a lot of responsibility at the store. He did everything from making the bank deposit to opening the store in the morning. He was a long time trusted employee. He felt the emotional loss of losing that job.

He felt that loss until he got a job at Walmart. Suddenly his new employer offered him health insurance and stock ownership and a retirement plan. He had none of those things working for the hardware store. He realized the only person at the hardware store that was making enough money to have those things was the owner. All the former hardware store employees now work for Walmart. My buddy always had to clear everything with the owner in the hardware store now if he sees that he is really moving a bunch of a certain product he can enter it in the computer and order it right away to keep inventory up without having to call the boss and talk him into it. He also makes more money at Walmart than he did at the hardware store.

Many small businesses are run very well but there are also small business that just do not make enough money to treat their employees properly. My buddy would tell me stories of the hardware store owner telling him he had to workovertime and he never got paid for it. He tells me that in the 10 years he has been at Walmart there has been a strong emphasis to make sure people are not pressured into working beyond their shift.

I don't think Walmart is perfect but I learned a long time ago that there are always more than one side to the story. As was said in another post a lot of people are getting by because they can buy things at Walmart.

Not trying to start a fight just shining a different light on the subject.
 

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All I am saying is that real Americans work at Walmart, drive their trucks and maintain their network and build all those stores. It is not Chinese carpenters and brick layers building those stores. Maybe buying at Walmart is supporting the American economy and the 1.3 million Americans that work there. In a lot of small business the only person doing ok was the owner. I applaud the owners that take care of their employees but that is not always the case.

If you manufacture a widget for $20 and the guy down the street will do it for $10 something is going to happen to your job. The world got smaller and the down the street is now in the next country.

Things are always changing. We do not need buggy whip makers like we used to should we subsidize that industry?

There are no easy fixes. I believe in the American worker and that we need to have a level playing field.
 
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