proto vs dewalt combination wrenches.
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coralnut
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The Dewalt metric combination wrenches Measure:
10mm=6.5 inches long overall
11mm=7.25
12mm=7.625
13mm=8.0
14mm=8.6875
15mm=9.0625
16mm=9.50
17mm=10.25
18mm=10.50
19mm=11.00
Did I mention that they have nice beams?
No one should think that they're getting Prptp when buying Dewalt just like no one buying Williams is getting Snap on.
But for less than $30 on sale for 10 long pattern wrenches, they're not a bad deal.
Tools that are used get scratched, just like mechanics cut their hands often without knowing it until brake clean hits it, and old people have wrinkles. call it patina. Tools aren't jewelry. they're tools meant to be used and fix ****.
Thanks for posting those measurements. They help quite a bit.
For comparison, here are some numbers that I collected. The table is based upon only 9 measurements for the Dewalt 10-wrench SAE set, so consider that as a potential source of error:
I'm drawing the following conclusions:
1. In the Dewalt SAE set, the Dewalt MM set and the CMAN MM set, the progression in the wrench lengths is such that the longest wrench in the set is about 160% of the length of the shortest wrench in the set.
2. In the CMAN SAE set, the ratio of the longest to the shortest wrench is 238%. That means that the CMAN set grows to a progressively longer pattern than any of the other sets as you progress through the sizes. People familiar with the CMAN SAE sets will know this from experience.
3. In the SAE set, the Dewalts start off at the short end being 25% longer than the CMAN, but the "long pattern" advantage of the Dewalt set shrinks away to being equal to the CMAN at 3/4", and the Dewalts actually become shorter than the CMAN SAE at the long end of the set.
4. In SAE, the advantages of the Dewalt set over the CMAN are more about anti-slip than they are about long pattern and torque advantage.
5. Comparing the metric sets, the Dewalts are consistently 20% longer than the CMAN.
I'm going to buy both Dewalt sets as an experiment with the anti-slip feature. I'm not expecting them to fit my needs for true long-pattern wrenches. I'll have to find something else to do that.
thanks again.
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sberry
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I wanna see the picture of the golden arm.
Fedwrench
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Ya know, if you really want long wrenches your best bet for length would be a set of zero offset boxed end wrenches. They are longer than any long combination wrench set I know of. 
logical
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I'd be curious and hope you'll follow-up with what they actually measure. I know you love my colored boxes so here's a few more. Orange is 2x red, green is 1.65 times red. I think the Dewalt spec sheet is wrong or the picture is distorted.
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logical
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Pretty ironic comment from someone with your username!
Yes and no I suppose. When it comes right down to it, the wrench doesn't care how long you, coralnuts or I think it is. If I wanted to know how long it is or prove someone else was wrong, I'd find one and measure it. He said "Look at the picture". All I said was that it looks about twice as long in the picture to me.
How's this one from Tekton? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZJN3PQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20
coralnut
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The first picture was so useless that I'm not even looking at the others. If you are concerned that the spec sheet is wrong or the picture is distorted then you really need to take that up with Dewalt. I'll be sure to measure the tools when they come in. Hold your breath. I'll get back to you.
XxToolAholicxX
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You don't have to be very smart to know the difference between an Apple and Orange......
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sberry
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You don't have to be very smart to know the difference between an Apple and Orange......
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I am a ToolAholic,Sometime I regret it, Especially when the ToolMan wont give me no credit
Need to be smart enough to know it looks pretty much like 2 apples.
dnschmidt
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I have the DeWalt reversible combination ratcheting wrenches and they are great. It looks to me that they are made by KABO in Taiwan judging from the reversing switch which is typical for KABO. For the money they are fantastic.
logical
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I think the spec sheet was copied from the ratcheting SAE set which is relatively short. The 7/8 in the Dewalt non-ratcheting set is right around 12 inches overall and the 3/8 is 6.25 inches or so. The 15/16 is pushing 13 inches. Hope you like them. I would post the pictures next to a tape measure but I know you wouldn't want to look at them.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I was thinking they looked a lot like the Blackhawk wrenches which I was believe are made by Kabo. It would make sense.
coralnut
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I'm happy to look at a picture that has value-- just haven't seen one yet.
1950mercury
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Has anyone used the dewalt ratcheting wrenches. I had a friend ask me about them I had no clue what to tell him.
retDAC
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logical
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Get those measurements done yet Coral?
I kind of went spend happy when sears had them on sale with points back deals so I ended up with the metric combo's, Sae combos and multiple sets of the sae and metric reversible ratcheting sets.
The combos are equal length or longer to My usa craftsman professionals, the armstong versions. Much longer then raised panels. Nice wrenches for what I paid for them. I never took measurements but the info posted from Dewalt isn't correct.
as for the ratcheting wrenches, I would put them more then a few steps above the current china gearwrenches and in some cases better then blue point. The smaller ratcheting end is a huge plus.. I do not think Kabo is the manufacture, but dewalt would not tell me who when I inquired about buying larger sizes they don't offer or if they where planning to expand the sizes they offered. I wish they had larger metric sizes and at least an 8mm but was told they don't.
The ratcheting end remind me of the Blackhawk and the Old husky pro sets and I am pretty sure those where made by newtools aka Hi-FIVE. Old thread talking about them. The kabo rebrands I've seen have a thicker / wider ratcheting head.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142255
The combos are equal length or longer to My usa craftsman professionals, the armstong versions. Much longer then raised panels. Nice wrenches for what I paid for them. I never took measurements but the info posted from Dewalt isn't correct.
as for the ratcheting wrenches, I would put them more then a few steps above the current china gearwrenches and in some cases better then blue point. The smaller ratcheting end is a huge plus.. I do not think Kabo is the manufacture, but dewalt would not tell me who when I inquired about buying larger sizes they don't offer or if they where planning to expand the sizes they offered. I wish they had larger metric sizes and at least an 8mm but was told they don't.
The ratcheting end remind me of the Blackhawk and the Old husky pro sets and I am pretty sure those where made by newtools aka Hi-FIVE. Old thread talking about them. The kabo rebrands I've seen have a thicker / wider ratcheting head.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142255
Also for a heads up you can get loose add on sizes for the combo set from farm and fleet or toolup.com pretty cheaply on some. They also have the flex heads and standard ratcheting wrenches from dewalt but none of those stores are near me so I haven't hand any hands on them.
retDAC
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If you have the SAE Reversible set, why not use the 5/16" for 8mm?
There is only about 0.002" between 5/16" and 8mm.
FWIW, here's where to order a separate 5/16":
http://servicenet.dewalt.com/Products/Detail?productNumber=DWMT72169
yeah you can do that, Most of the time swapping SAE for metric slips my mind since I have one drawer for each and they are all ready packed with too many wrenches as it is. I'll Just keep the gearwrench version I have for now and sell off the rest of that kit.