Purdy brushes only OK

[bchee]

I bought some Purdy brushes cause they're supposed to be the best.

They are ok, but I must be doing something wrong cause I'm not like, "wow these brushes are awesome."

They don't hold as much paint as I was expecting, so I'm constantly reloading.
Painting ***** big time.

On some areas I'm using zinsser bullseye primer which is supposed to be good, and that Behr paint and primer in one (premium ultra).

I read this bull thread:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71700

I paid more for these and now all I worry about is screwing them up. I tediously clean them.

 

[glenmore]

If there is one secret to get good service from a paint brush, it is tediously cleaning them before putting them away. As in the other thread, if you are painting over several days, then wrap them in a plastic baggie, or saran wrap. For a roller, just a regular plastic bag works fine. Also from the thread, you can get them cheaper on ebay.

 

[mrholeshot]

Once you use the brush for either oil or latex you have to stick with that type of paint for that brush. I won't use any other kind of paintbrush. I've tried cheaper versions but nothing seems to come close for me. I like them better than Wooster brushes. It may not be the brushes, It may be the paint

 

[Hiball]

Painting is just a Crappy Job Period, Its not a High speed operation and it using the proper brush for the Job is Very important. I have used Purdy brand brushes for dealing with trim for Many years and once you get accustomed to using the proper amount of Paint, They Leave a Nice sharp Edge. Ive even thought about Not Masking the Trim in certain conditions but I normally chicken out and do it anyway.

 

[bchee]

Are you guys soaking yours in fabric softener?

Also, for the crusted paint near the ferrule I was thinking of spraying wd-40 to get it off. What do you think?

 

[scott37300]

I use purdy brushes I bought from sherwin williams. Not sure if it's true or not but I have read that the purdy brushes found at homedepot are different than the purdy brushes found at a true paint store. The ones at the paint store cost more but I have read they are made of higher quality, not sure if that is true.

Also have read nothing but bad stuff with behr paint. I used to buy my paint from the depot or menards but started going to sherwin williams and there is a differance. It cost more but no splatter when rolling and it takes less coats to cover. Well worth the extra couple bucks a gallon for the good stuff, I also get coupons in my email from sherwin williams all the time for 20-40% off all paints and stains and sometimes off brushes to. So when I buy my stuff on sale it doesn't cost much more than the depot at all and is a lot better quality. With a purdy brush and good paint you don't need tape, just hold the brush at the right angle and go to it. Saves a lot of time.

 

[mrholeshot]

Are you guys soaking yours in fabric softener?

Also, for the crusted paint near the ferrule I was thinking of spraying wd-40 to get it off. What do you think?

I clean my latex use brushes in water and when they get as clean as I can get them I put them back into the yellow sleeve and wrap them with a towel. My oil brushes get cleaned and soaked in mineral spirts overnight and then stored the same way. Once I use a new brush I mark on the sleeve "Oil" or "latex". In my experiance you can ever get them completly clean. I would never spray WD40 on mine. When I go to use my brushes they seem to always have a very slight stiffness to them. I work the brush a little then slap it on the edge of a board. Ive been using most of my brushes 8 years or more. I did buy a new 3 inch Purdy to do the poly on my toolbox. I have a 2.5 angle Purdy I can drag around trim and bever have to mask. If you get the hang of it you can cut in windows easily. My ex BIL was a painter. He taught me alot

 

[scott37300]

A brush comb makes a big difference when cleaning also.

 

[mrholeshot]

I use purdy brushes I bought from sherwin williams. Not sure if it's true or not but I have read that the purdy brushes found at homedepot are different than the purdy brushes found at a true paint store. The ones at the paint store cost more but I have read they are made of higher quality, not sure if that is true.

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They make differant quality of Purdy brushes. Lowes and HD carry the all purpose models. The ones you get at paint stores are job specific, paint specific. I'm not good enough for those, lol

 

[cwlo]

HomeDepot did sell a cheaper version of the Purdy XL for a while, but I think they went back to the regular version. The difference was that it had fewer bristles, so it was thinner. Upon comparing it to a paint store bought one, it was obvious. Shame on Honme Depot.

Not a fan of Behr paint either. Its thick like a good paint, but just doesn't cover that well.

Chris

 

[JeepinJ]

purdy brushes found at homedepot are different than the purdy brushes found at a true paint store.

Negative. While they do offer a few additional models, they are all from the same line. I do highly recommend not using the oil/latex line. I prefer using the latex specific, or the oil specific models.

 

[boomerangg22]

I hate painting and cleaning up so I buy cheap rollers and brushes and toss them all at the end of the job. I'm no pro just around the house.

 

[buick215]

First of all there is no such thing as a paint and primer in one. That's a bunch of BS that paint manufactures like to say. Secondly are you using a synthetic or natural bristle brush.

 

[bchee]

F&CK
All of this would have helped a few weeks ago.
I got mine at HD, the nylon/polyester blend which is supposed to be for "all" paints.
So what's the deal, I should have purchased latex-only brushes at a real paint store???

BTW Depot does sell the paint specific brushes, oil-only or latex-only. I believe the latex-only ones are all nylon, not blended.

 

[bchee]

u think HD will let me return brushes that have been used?

 

[Theloniousmonk]

First of all there is no such thing as a paint and primer in one. That's a bunch of BS that paint manufactures like to say. Secondly are you using a synthetic or natural bristle brush.

+1... I laugh and yell at the commercial, wife thinks i'm nuts... it isn't the same as a true prime and top coat.

SW makes great paint, costs a bit more for a reason... you may find a good local paint company that has their own line, but most have been bought up by PittsPaints and SW in the last 10 years...

 

[W_KY]

I have had decent luck out of the last Wooster brand paint brush I bought from Lowes. It comes with a nice sleeve for it which I replace after cleaning it each time. Spending money on good brushes definitely makes a difference.

Has anyone used this paint brush cleaner?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

I really hate cleaning paint brushes and it seems no matter how much I try I end up getting paint on something I shouldn't.

 

[scott37300]

u think HD will let me return brushes that have been used?

Try taking them back and telling them they sucked and your not happy with them.

I was told the paint store purdy brushes were different than the HD ones but don't know for sure. Don't go with the all purpose brushes. Also try to stay away from behr paint, have never heard anything good about it and the times I used it was not impressed. Sign up at sherwin williams to get email discounts sent to you and the paint and supplies don't cost much more than the depot. And their staff know what they are talking about, at least at my local store.

 

[Davefr]

Not a fan of Behr paint either. Its thick like a good paint, but just doesn't cover that well.

Chris

I agree. Behr is generally regarding as terrible paint.

 

[bchee]

well **** guys I don't know what to do about the paint, I already bought it.
Only 6 gal, but I'm stuck with it, so I have to use it.

 

[scott37300]

well **** guys I don't know what to do about the paint, I already bought it.
Only 6 gal, but I'm stuck with it, so I have to use it.

Live and learn. I used to use behr because it was cheap but then needed some stain matched and went to sherwin williams and they gave me a deal on paint to try out. It didn't splatter like the behr did and could cut in a lot better. Just remeber for next time and sign up for sherwin williams mailing list, they will send you all kinds of emails with sales and if you plan it right you can buy all your paint with 30-40% off their prices.

 

[mrholeshot]

u think HD will let me return brushes that have been used?

I think the general purpose Purdy brushes are fine. Just keep the cleaning simple and use good paint. My 2.5 angle in a general purpose. Works great with any kind of latex. It's still a great brush.

 

[Stephenw]

I buy nice paint brushes.

For latex paint...

First I first rinse the brush under running water with the bristles pointed down. After most of the paint has been rinsed out, I rub dish liquid into the bristles. I work the soap through the bristles with my fingers. Finally, I rinse out the soap. I've managed to keep brushes working great through many projects using this method.

 

[buick215]

I don't know if this will help but you can try using a Corona brand paint brush. That is what I usually see the professional painters using. I still think it is more of a paint problem than a brush problem. Next time try Benjamin Moore it is a little better than Sherwin Williams in my opinion.

 

[MrMark]

The reason you hear and read bad things about behr paint is because Home Depot doesn't give painters a discount. They buy their paint at paint stores where they get a discount and don't have to wait in line. Also, they mark up the paint cost to the consumer. I would no more listen to a painter's recommendation on paint then I would listen to an eskimo on sun tan oil.

Behr paint has come a long way and is rated the highest in recent tests run by independent organizations. It flows out beautifully.

As to the brushes, the latex brushes are only for inside. They don't have enough stiffness for outside use.

You got the right brushes. The XL Glide and the Pro Extra Glide are the best selling brushes for a reason. I like the XL Bow too.

You want the blend of nylon and poly to give it enough stiffness. The nylon only latex brushes only are good for inside use.

 

[MrMark]

Here's a couple of tips to clean brushes.

Spin your brushes out after cleaning with hot water.

Use Murphy's Oil Soap with hot water for a nice final cleaning.

If you have residual paint, use a scotchbrite on the bristles, not a wire brush. A wire brush is not recommended as it damages the bristles. This is from Purdy's site.

Finish with the brush comb.

You shouldn't have paint anywhere near the ferule. You should keep the paint lower on the brush than that.

 

[bchee]

I thought painting was bad until I tried caulking.
THAT **** IS INFURIATING

 

[djjsr]

The best brushes IMO are the Purdy "Dale" style brushes. Nice taper.

 

[charlie_nj]

I thought painting was bad until I tried caulking.
THAT **** IS INFURIATING

I put painting, caulking, drywall taping and mudding, and tile grouting all in the same category.

I've used Purdy brushes for many years and like them a lot. Just plenty of warm water for cleaning and a kitchen fork as a brush comb. Never had a problem with Behr paint either.

 

[Davefr]

Behr paint has come a long way and is rated the highest in recent tests run by independent organizations. It flows out beautifully.

Behr is still junk. Just read the professional coating forums vs. the idiots at consumer distorts.

It sags, doesn't flow out, covers poorly and represents very poor value.

 

[scott37300]

The reason you hear and read bad things about behr paint is because Home Depot doesn't give painters a discount. They buy their paint at paint stores where they get a discount and don't have to wait in line. Also, they mark up the paint cost to the consumer. I would no more listen to a painter's recommendation on paint then I would listen to an eskimo on sun tan oil.

Behr paint has come a long way and is rated the highest in recent tests run by independent organizations. It flows out beautifully.

As to the brushes, the latex brushes are only for inside. They don't have enough stiffness for outside use.

You got the right brushes. The XL Glide and the Pro Extra Glide are the best selling brushes for a reason. I like the XL Bow too.

You want the blend of nylon and poly to give it enough stiffness. The nylon only latex brushes only are good for inside use.

I have used behr paint and also many other brands. I am not a painter and do not get a discount anywhere besides the sales sherwin williams has. I will be my own independent organization for testing and have to say that behr ranks at the bottom of my list for quality paints. And I would never use a primer and paint in one, primers have a specific job and so do top coats.

 

[MrMark]

Behr is still junk. Just read the professional coating forums vs. the idiots at consumer distorts.

It sags, doesn't flow out, covers poorly and represents very poor value.

I completely disagree. In fact you couldn't be more wrong. The "professional coating forums"? LOL@

Like I said, house painters know NOTHING about paint.

I've used ICI Dulux and Benjamin Moore, and Behr ranks at the top of my list.

Paint is one thing that consumers reports should be able to test correctly.

In other words, their Asian bias and utilitarian bias won't cloud their tests on PAINT.

 

[a390st]

I do a lot of painting and have used Behr paint. I normally use SW but have used a fair bit of BM and Porter/PPG. I have had to use Dutch Boy, Valspar, Ralph Lauren, and several others, too. Every brand has paint that is better than others, but I have never cared for Behr. There are a lot I don't care for, but Behr is one I have never looked at afterwords and been impressed with. I do get to see what the paint looks like after years too, because I go back to the houses for other odd jobs over time. I stay with SW Duration interior and exterior, or BM Aura given the choice. I love Duration best of all, and it sure isn't because of any discount I get.

Folks say that Purdy brushes don't have as high of a bristle count as they did prior to being bought by SW. I have used Purdy brushes for years, but none of my current ones are more than 4-5 years old and are after the buyout in 2005. I also have a Wooster (Porter) brush or two and a couple of Corona (BM) brushes. They are all fine, but I still buy Purdy. I try to keep brushes like tools, one for every job and multiples for common jobs. I don't throw brushes away, either, until they start losing bristles. Paint brush cleaner can be purchased or made, and can be reused nearly forever. It works better than plain mineral spirits. Keep it in a resealable container and let the paint residue settle to the bottom and dispose of it safely. That way you don't have to buy cheap brushes or throw away good brushes.

 

[mrholeshot]

Like I said, house painters know NOTHING about paint.

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My ex BIL is a pro painter. He showed me what to use how to use it and the best tools and the best materials. Those things made me someone who could actualy paint like a pro. Saying "house painters know NOTHING about paint" is a slap in the face to people who make a living out of doing quality work. It's like saying auto technicians know NOTHING about auto parts or your doctor knows NOTHING about medicine. Thats a really broad and insulting statement to those that do it for a living. My ex BIL is a real ******** but when it comes to painting he's professional and he knows whats what. The fact that he has painted about half the houses in the historic district of downtown Wilmington NC pretty much says it all. You don't get that work by being stupid about tools and materials.

 

[Davefr]

Like I said, house painters know NOTHING about paint.

..and professional chefs no nothing about food, mechanics no nothing about cars, doctors no nothing about medicine, etc, etc, etc.

This is about to most idiotic statement I've ever read.

 

[Scotto]

I thought painting was bad until I tried caulking.
THAT **** IS INFURIATING

lol, that **** gets EVERYWHERE. It takes a lot of practice and paper towels to do it cleanly and for it to come out good.

Taping also helps in some areas so you get a nice clean line.

 

[Mr_Rich]

The quality of the paint does make a difference. When you think about the the labor involved in painting then it just makes sense to use a good quality paint that will reduce the amount of labor. My brother is a pro painter and he has taught me a lot, that is when I can't talk him into doing the job. My first choice in paint is Benjamin Moore closely followed by Pratt & Lambert. You may have seen some of his work, he was a set painter on the movie Public Enemy.

Rich

 

[jvitez]

Here's a couple of tips to clean brushes.

Spin your brushes out after cleaning with hot water.

Use Murphy's Oil Soap with hot water for a nice final cleaning.

If you have residual paint, use a scotchbrite on the bristles, not a wire brush. A wire brush is not recommended as it damages the bristles. This is from Purdy's site.

Finish with the brush comb.

You shouldn't have paint anywhere near the ferule. You should keep the paint lower on the brush than that.

You took the words right out of my.....keyboard. Never heard about using Scotchbrite though. I've always used a wire brush. I'll have to try it.

Actually I've found using a brush comb, nice hand soap, and running water works perfectly for latex paint. I swirl the brush on a wet bar of hand soap after a good rinse while spreading the bristles with my hands. Then I work the soap into the brush with my fingers in the same way. Then use a brush comb a few times, then rinse it clean, spin it out, brush comb again, place in its cardboard holder or use B&W newspaper and wrap it up. I've got many year old brushes that still work fine using this method.