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Q's about some outlet stuff

venturesomerite

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back story is that I have a lincoln 140 powerpak (120v) welder that is always popping my 20amp circuit. It does it in different out lets in my shop (all 20 amp) and as well as when I bring it to an occasional different location for a small job. I find that it does not do this when plugged into my generator, which I always use a 240 outlet and extension cord that splits that line into 4 120v outlets, presumable 2 of each on each leg, but it molded plastic and I've never had it apart… Anyways, that outlet is a 30 amp outlet and never gives me any trouble. I can also only use the power knob no more than half way, it it's just instant trip.

I would like to add in a 30 amp 120v outlet to use solely on my welder. I have plenty of heave gauge 8 and 10 gauge extension cords (yes 8 gauge 120v) that I can use with it. It is most commonly used 40' from the panel, but on occasion 100' away (rarely) I want to put it less than 3 feet from the panel (as it is easy, and it does not stay plugged in all the time or anything). I do not mind making a pig tail to convert from one plug style to your normal plug style found on this welder. (2 vertical blades and a round ground) sorry, don't know the technical name for it.

Looking for suggestions on wire gauge and outlet style.

Q2)
I have a Snap On plasma cutter 30i (specs can be seen here)
It has the ability to be used on 240 or 120. I would like to be able to plug it in SEPARATE from the welder, but leave both plugged in to be able to easily just turn on and use it once cords are run. Again, outlet would be less than 3' from the panel. I expect to run two, dedicated outlets for these.

Use is the same for distance as the welder, in fact they are actually on the same cart side by side.

Again outlet style, cable gauge, etc suggestions.


Thanks for any and all help.
 
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Do you have two empty slots in your garage panel? For 30 Amp circuits the standard is 10 gauge wire, larger gauges are permitted. The conductors must be appropriately protected, be it in conduit or run inside walls.

Dryer or Range receptacles are common and you can buy them anywhere to make "pig tails" also known as adapter cables.
 
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venturesomerite

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Do you have two empty slots in your garage panel? For 30 Amp circuits the standard is 10 gauge wire, larger gauges are permitted. The conductors must be appropriately protected, be it in conduit or run inside walls.

Dryer or Range receptacles are common and you can buy them anywhere to make "pig tails" also known as adapter cables.

Plenty of empties!

Plan is simply to 90* out of the bottom of the panel, 90* over a foot to a box.

does 10 gauge (with say 4 wires) need 3/4" conduit or 1"
 
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