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Do you really need a 18 in 1/2 flex head ratchet if you already have a 12 in 3/4 flex head, a 26 in breaker bar and two impact wrenches, just for regular maintenance and light mechanic jobs?
I have a 12 in 1/2 Tekton ratchet already, but I am not sure if I should buy a long flex head or not. I'm thinking about buying the Icon, which is on sale right now with the member discount for $47. But if I'm never really going to need it, I'll pass!
 
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What do you mean by “colors”?
Like handle colors

But for real man only you know what kinda work you do and if you need it. Alot of guys here got literal dozens of ratchets every shape and size for all drive sizes.

have you been able to reach where you need to reach with what you already got?

personally I’d rather have a 8” and a 18” and no 12” version since most things I can do with the 8 but if I need reach I might need alot of reach but it all depends on what you work on.
 
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Like handle colors

But for real man only you know what kinda work you do and if you need it. Alot of guys here got literal dozens of ratchets every shape and size for all drive sizes.

have you been able to reach where you need to reach with what you already got?

personally I’d rather have a 8” and a 18” and no 12” version since most things I can do with the 8 but if I need reach I might need alot of reach but it all depends on what you work on.
No, I don't really care much about the color or brand, as long as it's good quality. Not professional-grade, but good. I saw this ratchet at a good price and thought it might be something worth having. But buying things just for the sake of having them isn’t my thing, since I’m generally trying to downsize my tool collection in the garage—it’s shared with my art studio.
I also have a Dewalt 1/2-inch ratchet, and I think it’s 8 inches long. I’m thinking of selling it along with some other stuff because I don’t really like the handle.

The photo shows the ratchets I use most often. I also have a couple more that I plan to sell, like the Dewalt. And I have one that came in the duo-socket set made by Grey Pneumatic, but I don't like it at all. It's too heavy for a 3/8
 

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Do you really need a 18 in 1/2 flex head ratchet if you already have a 12 in 3/4 flex head, a 26 in breaker bar and two impact wrenches, just for regular maintenance and light mechanic jobs?
I have a 12 in 1/2 Tekton ratchet already, but I am not sure if I should buy a long flex head or not. I'm thinking about buying the Icon, which is on sale right now with the member discount for $47. But if I'm never really going to need it, I'll pass!
My opinion is no. And I personally don’t own one. I like the poles, very long and very short. I find little use for in between in ratchets general.

This being GJ, someone will post, if for no other reason than to disagree with my post, that an 18” ratchet is absolutely essential for some specific job.

Thats fine and it’s pointless to argue because I’m sure that person will be correct. I would just say: My advice is for all automotive repair enthusiasts to start with the long flex ratchets, then small ratchets. Then only if you encounter a need, buy std length. And remember, if you go this route, spend big for long flexes. You want highest possible strength and fine teeth. The shorter ratchets should have light back drag for speed, but need not be expensive or strong.
 

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I have a couple of 12" 1/2" drive fixed head ratchets and at one time they were all I used because they were all I had. Then I got into the longer styles and now have 15" in flex and fixed, 18" flex, 24" fixed, and 26" flex. Hands down, my most used 1/2" drive ratchet is the 15" long flex head. The least used would be either the 18" flex or the 24" fixed heads with the standard length and the 26" flex not coming out very often but enough to justify their existence in my tool box.
 
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My opinion is no. And I personally don’t own one. I like the poles, very long and very short. I find little use for in between in ratchets general.

This being GJ, someone will post, if for no other reason than to disagree with my post, that an 18” ratchet is absolutely essential for some specific job.

Thats fine and it’s pointless to argue because I’m sure that person will be correct. I would just say: My advice is for all automotive repair enthusiasts to start with the long flex ratchets, then small ratchets. Then only if you encounter a need, buy std length. And remember, if you go this route, spend big for long flexes. You want highest possible strength and fine teeth. The shorter ratchets should have light back drag for speed, but need not be expensive or strong.
Honestly, I’ve been doing most of the maintenance on my vehicles for many years. But I don’t know much about auto mechanics, and I’m not very good at diagnosing problems that can’t be detected with the OBDII. However, since 1996, I’ve been replacing brakes, suspensions, radiators, starters, alternators, etc.—basic mechanics! I used to have an 18-inch Craftsman flex head, but I sold it when I bought my first impact wrench. I haven’t needed it since, to be honest, but I thought maybe people who know more than I do might know something I don’t. Repairs that are easier to do with one! Although I do have an 18-inch Tekton 3/8-inch fixed head.

With poles you mean breakers bars or is it something else?
 
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I have a couple of 12" 1/2" drive fixed head ratchets and at one time they were all I used because they were all I had. Then I got into the longer styles and now have 15" in flex and fixed, 18" flex, 24" fixed, and 26" flex. Hands down, my most used 1/2" drive ratchet is the 15" long flex head. The least used would be either the 18" flex or the 24" fixed heads with the standard length and the 26" flex not coming out very often but enough to justify their existence in my tool box.
I'm going to see what 15-inch 1/2 flex-head ratchets are available.
 

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I was looking online and saw that a lot of people recommend this ratchet over the Icon, but since they say Advance Auto Parts is in such bad shape and its future is uncertain, I wonder what the warranty will be like?
Well, that I cannot say. What I can say is I've spent almost as much as that ratchet costs today in postage ,for things I really didn't need, but were a good deal and lumped into a package deal.
 
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Well, that I cannot say. What I can say is I've spent almost as much as that ratchet costs today in postage ,for things I really didn't need, but were a good deal and lumped into a package deal.
Yes, the price is great for the quality of the ratchet. I watched a few YouTube videos where people say it’s really good and sturdy. That’s something to keep in mind if I decide to buy a flex head of that size.
 

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What do you work on that requires 1/2" drive. Modern cars really don't as 3/8" will do anything seen on my Toyota Camry. If you're a F350 type of person this might make sense but if not it doesn't.
 

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I'm going to see what 15-inch 1/2 flex-head ratchets are available.
Mine is a SK LP90 from before the China purchase. I believe the heads are still made in the USA by A.j., the same as Olsa and VIM. I have no idea, nor do I care, where the handle comes from.
 
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Why would an 18" be worse than a 12" in any size when that much leverage is needed?

Get rid of the breaker bar and just get a long *** ratchet. They are ALMOST obsolete.
I hardly ever use the breaker bar! The last few times I used it were when I was removing the upper control arm from my Tacoma. I usually just use my impact wrench. Yeah, maybe it would be a good idea to swap it out for a longer 1/2-inch ratchet.
 
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What do you work on that requires 1/2" drive. Modern cars really don't as 3/8" will do anything seen on my Toyota Camry. If you're a F350 type of person this might make sense but if not it doesn't.
What do you work on that requires 1/2" drive. Modern cars really don't as 3/8" will do anything seen on my Toyota Camry. If you're a F350 type of person this might make sense but if not it doesn't.
I have a Tacoma, and I've modified the suspension several times by installing and removing different lift kits, lower control arms, lower ball joints, and so on. I also recently replaced the inner tie rods on my RAV4. But yeah, I really almost always use 3/8-inch sockets for just about everything. I only have an 11-inch 1/2-inch ratchet and a breaker bar. And two 1/2-inch impact wrenches and one 3/8-inch one.
 
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Mine is a SK LP90 from before the China purchase. I believe the heads are still made in the USA by Armstrong, the same as Olsa and VIM. I have no idea, nor do I care, where the handle comes from.
I've heard that Sk isn't what it used to be. That the current product is on par with any other brand of average reputation. But I don't know anything about it! I've just heard people say that.
 
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I've heard that Sk isn't what it used to be. That the current product is on par with any other brand of average reputation. But I don't know anything about it! I've just heard people say that.
That is correct, but SK doesn't make the LP90 and never has.
A.J Manufacturing makes the ratchet heads for SK, Olsa, and Vim and stamps the name on them. SK has the most varieties, Olsa only has a 24" flex head and Vim has the 24" flex and 10" fixed.
 
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That is correct, but SK doesn't make the LP90 and never has.
. Armstrong makes the ratchet heads for SK, Olsa, and Vim and stamps the name on them. SK has the most varieties, Olsa only has a 24" flex head and Vim has the 24" flex and 10" fixed.
Damn! That ratchet costs $176 on Amazon. That's way more than a DIYer like me can afford for the job it's going to do. That's for the pros! :ROFLMAO:
 

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Damn! That ratchet costs $176 on Amazon. That's way more than a DIYer like me can afford for the job it's going to do. That's for the pros! :ROFLMAO:
I didn't say it was cheap, however I think mine was on sale for around $75.00 but that was years ago.
 
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It's not available! The 1/2-inch long flex head is out of stock. I was looking at the Die Hard, which has gotten great reviews, but who knows what will happen to the warranty if Advance Auto Parts goes out of business.
 
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I didn't say it was cheap, however I think mine was on sale for around $75.00 but that was years ago.
Cheap usually isn't that great, but for what I'm going to use it for, it's too expensive. Still, it looks like an excellent tool and it's made in the USA. Thanks man!
 

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Cheap usually isn't that great, but for what I'm going to use it for, it's too expensive. Still, it looks like an excellent tool and it's made in the USA. Thanks man!
I also have a Gearwrench 15" fixed head; I haven't used it much but it seems to be decent enough. They may make it in a flex head version. I just have a hard time using an 18" or longer as a go to for 1/2" drive but others swear by them. YMMV. Check out other options from Gearwrench, I had the 84 tooth locking flex heads in both 18 and 24", put Matco 88 guts in them, decided I didn't need them and gave them away before I ever really used them. Those were really inexpensive on Scamazon but I don't think they are still made, being replaced by 90 or 120 tooth.
 

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Honestly, I’ve been doing most of the maintenance on my vehicles for many years. But I don’t know much about auto mechanics, and I’m not very good at diagnosing problems that can’t be detected with the OBDII. However, since 1996, I’ve been replacing brakes, suspensions, radiators, starters, alternators, etc.—basic mechanics! I used to have an 18-inch Craftsman flex head, but I sold it when I bought my first impact wrench. I haven’t needed it since, to be honest, but I thought maybe people who know more than I do might know something I don’t. Repairs that are easier to do with one! Although I do have an 18-inch Tekton 3/8-inch fixed head.

With poles you mean breakers bars or is it something else?
Me too, but since 1986.

My first impact gun changed my life. But brake caliper bolts and all sorts of suspension components and some engine components simply cannot be accessed by impacts, or at least are difficult to access without a lift.

I have found great use for my 26” 1/2” flex head ratchet and recommend it wholeheartedly. Mine is the Snap on SHLF80A but there are plenty of capable competitors.

For any large-ish hardware, anywhere else, I start with my soft gripped 3/8” long flex ratchet. For me, that’s a FHLF80. I don’t bother with a standard sized ratchet. Once broken free, I either switch to a stubby ratchet, or jump down to 1/4” drive.

For any fastener 13mm or smaller, I tend to use my 1/4” long flex THLF72.

If I’m not mistaken, Icon makes versions of all these ratchets.

The poles I’m talking about are the long flexes and stubbies. I recommend starting there. Mid length ratchets, in my opinion, while convenient, simply don’t offer the torque longer ratchets offer.

In terms of long breakers, I don’t own any and don't use them. Modern ratchets are just as strong and fine toothed ones like the SHLF80 are a joy to use.
 

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I like my 17” and 22” flex head 1/2 drive ratchets. I have standard length fixed head as well. Also have 13” flex head 3/8 as well as standard length fixed head. I have 18” 3/8 breaker bar and 24” 1/2 breaker bar but prefer the long handle ratchet.

I find the 1/2 drive useful for the DIY car work I do, mostly BMW and Porsche. Can’t always fit an impact wrench in the space. I can fit a 22 or 24 mm socket to a 13” 3/8 but it is lot of work for something torqued to 100 or 150 or 200 lbs and often the breakaway torque on my cars in the Northeast is a lot more than the tightening torque due to corrosion.

When I was 30, I did not care and could muscle through just about any job without any consequence, but I am twice that age now and I do care.
 

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Dear OP, your question reminds me of a drunk walking past a bar and asking if maybe he should walk into the bar just to have a look see. This is the man cave of men and women that cannot get enough of that bright shiny chrome goodness.

The short answer is no you should not get another ratchet. But this is the GJ and the correct answer is YOU NEED EVERY FREAKING RATCHET ON THE PLANET. Oh, and before I forget what your favorite color of handle would you like?:):eek::oops::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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If you can't think of a use for one, you probably don't need it. If you find you're using your breaker bar often and wish it were a ratchet, then by all means, it would be a good purchase. You'll probably be fine without one, and they're fairly easy to come by if you find you do need one one day.


Of course, need and want are different things, and if you're just looking for an excuse to buy more shiny things, then you should absolutely get one.
 

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Dear OP, your question reminds me of a drunk walking past a bar and asking if maybe he should walk into the bar just to have a look see. This is the man cave of men and women that cannot get enough of that bright shiny chrome goodness.

The short answer is no you should not get another ratchet. But this is the GJ and the correct answer is YOU NEED EVERY FREAKING RATCHET ON THE PLANET. Oh, and before I forget what your favorite color of handle would you like?:):eek::oops::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Oh you betcha...

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It's not available! The 1/2-inch long flex head is out of stock. I was looking at the Die Hard, which has gotten great reviews, but who knows what will happen to the warranty if Advance Auto Parts goes out of business.
The non comfort grip version is in stock.
 

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The other factor to consider is you’ll find a need for a ratchet of this size on a Sunday night about 8pm so you can get the car running to get to work Monday morning
There are days I would be glad not to have that ratchet.😉
 

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The other factor to consider is you’ll find a need for a ratchet of this size on a Sunday night about 8pm so you can get the car running to get to work Monday morning

I'd just call in sick if the car isn't running to get to work.
 

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One issue that I haven’t heard come up yet is the need to work with sockets that are only available in 1/2” drive for example.

I have them, for example, stubby triple squares or really big allens for drain plugs, or huge torx for seat belts or seat anchors etc, all 1/2" dr only. And in my world, I don't necessarily need or want a 26" ratchet for them. So a mid length ratchet can be nice for these exact situations.

As I said, I do not own a mid length 1/2" dr ratchet or breaker bar. In such circumstances, I just use the big ratchet, and switch to the stubby (mine is the flex stubby which isn't so stubby). For the times I need this, my approach works fine for me. But I can 100% understand how this might be an unacceptable compromise for others.
The short answer is you will eventually need an 18 inch long flex head ratchet in 3/8" drive.
18" 3/8" drive? I own one and almost never use it. Mine is fixed head. I bought it for serpentine belt type work. I prefer my 14" flex head for this. The flex head is the thing. If I had an 18" flex head 3/8" I'd probably find use for it. Note that for serp belts, I want the length for access reasons, not torque. So that's a bit different than what we've been talking about.

The other factor to consider is you’ll find a need for a ratchet of this size on a Sunday night about 8pm so you can get the car running to get to work Monday morning
This ^^^^ has been the sort of thing that has happened to me and has greatly influenced my tool purchases. I'm looking forward to the day when I have spare daily drivers. Right now, we are sharing our family car with one of our commuting college students, which is less than ideal. This has also influenced brands of tools for me. I care less about warranty and more about tools that won't let me down.
 
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