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Question about Deadblow Hammers

7th Kahuna

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Last week there was a thread here that mentioned Estwing had changed suppliers for their 45 oz deadblow hammer and suggested if anyone was in the market they should take a look as the old style red hammers, made in the USA by Trusty-Cook, were likely superior to the new blue hammers, made in Taiwan by unknown. As a deadblow was on my list of tools to be on the lookout for, I decided to hit a couple of Home Depots and see what I could turn up. I had heard that the Harbor Freight deadblows were 'ok' but I take any HF tool rating with a grain (or maybe three grains) of salt. I read the reviews for the Estwing hammer and they were all great but the buyers were using them to drive stakes and set bricks and other uses that in my estimation are not preferred deadblow applications. In any case, I was able to find myself an Estwing 'Trusty-Cook' Deadblow. At three times the cost of the Harbor Freight model, I would like to get at least three times the use out of it. Thus my questions.

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During my tour of local Home Depots, I actually found several of the older red hammers, half had been abused, either in store by employees, or returned by a customer who, given the benefit of the doubt, thought the cuts to the face of the hammer were a result of an inferior construction rather than an improper use. I don't want that to be my fate as well.

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My primary question goes to the proper use of a deadblow. Obviously (or maybe not?) if you are replacing chrome or a similar material, the deadblow would be in direct contact with the part. If I am driving a motor arbor out of a mounting bracket, then I assume I would place a piece of wood or something soft between the hammer and the 'target'. In reading online, it seems there are a fair number of individuals who treat deadblows as disposable. Just how long should a deadblow be expected to last? I still have the tools my parents gave me as a kid. Can I expect the deadblow, if used properly, to give me similar durability? Are cuts and abrasions to be expected and 'within spec'? What are the rules for proper deadblow use?

My second question is just what is a deadblow for. More specifically, the market is full of different 'soft face' hammers. I assumed they had different uses but then read the following with respect to the Trusty-Cook deadblow:

"Outlasts Rawhide, Rubber, Brass, Lead, Nylon and Other Plastic Type Heads by 10-20 Times"

So how specific are the uses to the individual hammer types? In practice, is it more about size and weight than about material composition? If I were setting bricks or tile I think a rubber mallet would be my preferred tool. If I were disassembling a lot of electric motors, maybe I'd choose a nylon face. I have a small rawhide hammer I picked up a while back I use for setting hand plane blades. Not sure what that one is 'best' suited for. Does a set of Trusty-Cook deadblows really replace the other hammer types or is that just good marketing?

Thanks in advance for your instruction.
 
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I really like these shot filled deadblow hammers, but I only use them when I'm easing larger parts into place or, in the case of the smaller hammers, setting up a vice on my mill (they're superb for that).

If I'm hitting something that is likely to damage the face, then I choose another tool! Bear in mind that if you have just regular hammers and dead blows, you only have a choice of 'very hard' or 'very soft' faces. In practice I find myself using rawhide, nylon, plastic, brass and copper faced hammers in a range of sizes. For some applications the faces are consumable items, but most of my hammers are Thorex, and cheap replacement faces are readily available!
 

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there plastic and with use they will be damaged. I kinda of consider these and rubber mallets as consumables. U Should get plenty of years of use but they're Soft... And will eventually fail regardless of the price...
 

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I use mine when assembling motorcycle parts, like tapping a swingarm or an engine into position on the frame. The big advantage is the head being completely rubber so if it slips or hits maybe a powdercoated frame, it isn't going to chip or mark the surface.
I also have a copper and hide faced Thor mallet but if it slips then the cast iron head is going to damage something on the bike.
 

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Dead blow is basically a heavy rubber mallet? I have not used mine yet, but have used my 4lb metal hammer a few times. Love the mass for limited swing arc!
 

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there plastic and with use they will be damaged. I kinda of consider these and rubber mallets as consumables. U Should get plenty of years of use but they're Soft... And will eventually fail regardless of the price...

They do wear out over time a good made in USA hammer would be the best choice. The Trusty Cook ones are good or any of the vendors that are made stateside.
 

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Dead blow is basically a heavy rubber mallet? I have not used mine yet, but have used my 4lb metal hammer a few times. Love the mass for limited swing arc!

No, dead blow hammers are more like a heavy duty plastic surrounding a steel hammer that absorbs the energy you would normally feel as a rebounding force. They will handle a lot of abuse, but they are not designed to pound on sharp surfaces, you can get away with a bit, but don't expect the hammer to last nearly as long.
 

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They do wear out over time a good made in USA hammer would be the best choice. The Trusty Cook ones are good or any of the vendors that are made stateside.

I actually like the HF orange ones they have decent handle and can always be seen, easy warranty walk in swap for new... All at a discount price :willy_nil

Trusty does make a nice hammer, so does Estwing mini sledge and engineers hammer, framing hammers, rubber mallets, and snap on in there dead blow ball peens my personal fav :evil:
 
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I'm in the dead blows are consumable camp, I use mine anytime I need to wack something and do not want to leave a mark.

That being said I have beat the **** out of the HF ones and they keep coming back for more. I would never warrantee one though, since I do abuse them.
 
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FWIW, I've had as much problem with the plastic handles failing as the head. Couple of weeks ago, one fell off a workbench, hit the concrete floor and the handle broke the bottom three inches.

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Yeah out of the 4 that I have Ive only Broken one of them at the face. I dopped the 64oz one 15' off the roof with no damage ...

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was it winter time when they broke?
 

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Tekton 16/32/48 oz Dead Blow Hammer Set...:thumbup:

$32.99 from Amazon...

Add the 64 oz Dead Blow Hammer to the set for $21.98 to bring your total up to $ 54.97...

Then you'll qualify for the $10.00 off $50.00 sale going on right now...

$44.97 for a 1 lb, 2 lb, 3 lb, and 4 lb dead blow hammer...

Or...

$ 11.25 each!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares if they wear out...Buy some more!!!:evil::rocker:
 

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Thanks everyone for the comments. Always more to learn. I guess my hammer collection will continue to grow. :D

I really like these shot filled deadblow hammers, but I only use them when I'm easing larger parts into place or, in the case of the smaller hammers, setting up a vice on my mill (they're superb for that).

If I'm hitting something that is likely to damage the face, then I choose another tool! Bear in mind that if you have just regular hammers and dead blows, you only have a choice of 'very hard' or 'very soft' faces. In practice I find myself using rawhide, nylon, plastic, brass and copper faced hammers in a range of sizes. For some applications the faces are consumable items, but most of my hammers are Thorex, and cheap replacement faces are readily available!

That was kind of what I was thinking. I'll have to check out Thorex. That name keeps coming up.

oldldh, thanks for the suggestion.
 
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I have several dead blows and use them for a lot of things, including stone work (both bluestone and brick/pavers). They're great. I did have a SO dead blow ball peen hammer with similar handle that blew apart on me one time. I think the plastic became brittle with age. SO replaced it under warranty with their new style no questions asked. I got the feeling it wasn't the first time he saw a hammer handle fail like mine did. Not sure if the dead blows are the same material or not but they're very close. Something to watch out for.
 

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you can get dead blows with replaceable striking surfaces...Maybe more economical...:

available for example from Wiha, Hazet, PB Swiss, Stahlwille, Halder, Gedore...

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you can get dead blows with replaceable striking surfaces...Maybe more economical...:

available for example from Wiha, Hazet, PB Swiss, Stahlwille, Halder, Gedore...

I like the Trusty Cook hammer and it will certainly have a place on my wall, but I think the hammers with replaceable faces make the most sense going forward, especially since I can't seem to focus my interests. My needs are always changing, interchangeable heads make a lot of sense.

Thanks for the list of manufacturers. Stahlwille is the only one I am familiar with.
 
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