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Question about Etching

600SL

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Hello, I have a question about etching my garage floor. It is new concrete cured about 9 months. I am using the Armor Poxy Armorultra 3-Layer Low VOC system. The directions for etching say power wash then apply a 4-1 solution of the provided etching solution. I did all that, used a mop to apply it and brushed it in with a bristle brush and let it stand for 45 min then rinsed. Repeated the process twice. But the directions say to let stand for 45min or until foaming stops. In my case the foaming stopped almost immediately and really only foamed in the areas where I first took the mop out and placed it on the floor. Where I spread it around to had little or no foaming. After letting it dry the next day there is the appearance of an etched floor (white powdery looking) in some places, but mostly what appears to be just really clean concrete.

I would really like to make sure I didn't do anything wrong here. I've used this product before and never had any problems but it was long ago and don't recall how it etched back then.
 
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Did you verify there was not a sealer applied to the concrete? If you place water drops in various areas, does the concrete readily absorb them or do they just sit there?
 
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Did you verify there was not a sealer applied to the concrete? If you place water drops in various areas, does the concrete readily absorb them or do they just sit there?

Yes there is no sealer applied.,and moisture will not bead up. After power wash its almost dry in about 1 hour except for a few low spots. I also did the moisture test. Concrete is 4500PSI.
 
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I found this on You tube. His etching didn't seem to foam either. And it cam out like mine. Of course hes pushing grinding.

 
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Well, I didn't trust it, so I sanded it. First two pictures are after sanding. Second two pictures are after etching and before sanding. $3000 in paint so I didn't want to take any chances.

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I know I'm late to the party and this is a bit of a sidebar but watching the attached video one thing to note (for those who might use this video as a reference on how to acid etch) is that there was zero reference or demonstration indicating that the acid solution was actively neutralized . Just flushing with water is not enough!
 
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I know I'm late to the party and this is a bit of a sidebar but watching the attached video one thing to note (for those who might use this video as a reference on how to acid etch) is that there was zero reference or demonstration indicating that the acid solution was actively neutralized . Just flushing with water is not enough!

He did talk about that at about 3:30. But I noticed he only rinsed it off with a garden hose. He didn't talk much about the actual etching process, like the questions I had about how much it should foam etc. It really looked like he brushed over the etching to sell the audience on grinding.
 

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He did talk about that at about 3:30. But I noticed he only rinsed it off with a garden hose. He didn't talk much about the actual etching process, like the questions I had about how much it should foam etc. It really looked like he brushed over the etching to sell the audience on grinding.
Agreed. His points about the differences between an etched surface and a ground surface are valid but his etch process in general was very poorly executed. Relying on water rinses to neutralize an acid etch can lead to very real problems.
 
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