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pi_guy

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I just spoke to my dealer who in the last 35 years can count on one hand how many times he has repossessed tools. He admits he is not hard nosed about it. Where he cited examples of other LI drivers where after you missed two payments you paid in full in full on third meeting or it was repossessed.
As he pointed out you will not get beat but your sales will get limited, as some people will be turned off by that approach. I have met retired guys that will come visit him.
I did not see my dealer since the first week in August and about a month later only paid him my regular weekly amount.
 
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I'm not a professional mechanic, never been on a truck, but can't believe why any dealer would do "truck credit".

Has to be the riskiest way to make money. (Basically loaning out your personal money for 0% interest)

To me that's just crazy...
 

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And, like I said, it's been reported by both customers and dealers that there is language in said agreement that they can repo tools - even those that have been paid for - to satisfy unpaid debt.

Someone once posted the section language detailing this, but I can't find the post.

Don't get me wrong - I think the concept is shady as hell, and I'm not championing it. I think there's a lot of shady stuff that goes on with the whole enterprise.

Sounds like we're on the same page. Honestly I don't think that would hold up in court or even be remotely legal. If you're still making payments on the tools. They might be able to take back what you're making payments on. But I'm not sure. Most mechanics aren't desdbeats. Toolguy usually gets paid first.

That's like someone buying a new Ford F-150 and falling on hard times not being able to make the payment. So ford decides they're going to repress his gt500 he's owned for 20 years to recoup they're money. Just because it says ford on it :lol:
 
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The prices are the same or less on the truck than the website.. again not sure where you're getting that from?

ANY manufacturer marks their tools up at least 50% before selling to the public. You think gearwrench and sk sells on their website for a 5% margin? :lol:

And I highly doubt using your tools as collateral is legal. Agains sounds like a bunch of rumors that you heard from someone and have never been a truck customer. Something you brought on credit yeah they can repo that. They can take your scanner back you brought on snapon credit but they're not going through your box and picking tools out to sell. That isn't going to happen.


Ok, lets use a little common sense here - shall we??

Yes, the prices are the same on the trucks as they are on the website (promos excluded), and I explained to you WHY that is... no, other companies are not selling at a 5% markup, which is why you should ask yourself why the tool truck guys sockets cost 4x as much as the non tool truck brands.. it does not take NASA level engineering to create sockets, and they are not made out of precious metal either - so what do you think all that extra cost is supporting? Hmm, maybe a big part is the truck service itself? While you keep saying "umm, the prices are the truck are usually even cheaper than the website", then where is the money coming from that pays all those people?

If you sign up for credit, and you buy a $20,000 toolbox that you will spend the rest of you life making $50 payments on, when a few years go by, and that box is not worth what the balance on the account is, more items had been added to the balance, and in the scenario that someone backed a truck into the side of that box - IF - and I said "IF" you stop payments, do u think snap on is gonna sit down with an itemized list and say "ok, those wrenches he added onto the balance were probably paid for by now, and those sockets were probably paid off by now, and oh well I guess that box is only worth 30% of what he paid for it now, so that's just our ****** luck, so I guess we're just out the rest of that money"... no, they are gonna come and lay claim to that box, anything that says snap on inside it, repo it, and start selling everything at a discount until the balance of your account is settled, and then hand you a check for $200 and say "this is all that was left over after we sold all your used **** at 1/4 of the price of what you paid for it". Same thing with a scanner. If you buy a $10,000 scanner, and default on that credit, beat the living hell out of the scanner, do you think you're gonna just hand back a beat up, outdated scan tool and say "ok guys, dept settled, now excuse me while I use these nice new shiny wrenches that I paid cash for last week off your truck."

If you're gonna sign these papers, and make jokes about me "not having a truck account" (as if that's a bad thing for me), post smiley faces as if you actually know what you're saying, you should really know how all this stuff works... snap on is not in the business of loosing money. If you pay off half your mortgage over 15 years, the bank isn't gonna come say, ok you can have the kitchen and bedroom, and we'll take everything else.. they say, thanks for the $300,000 house, we'll sell it for $180,000 and have our money back in a month, nice doing business with ya...

Maybe you should ask yourself just why they are so willing to hand out so much stuff with minimum payments.. why do you think they'd sell a kid making $12 and hour a $7,000 toolbox? Why is it harder to get approved for a cell phone than it is for a toolbox that cost as much as a car?
 
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the will defiantly repo tools and boxes, my guy has them from time to time, usually sells for half price of retail. i have a actual account as well as a truck account, right now my truck account is paid off, and my actual account is less that 1500. Wanting to keep the tuck account paid off unless there is something i come across that i need.
 

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Sounds like we're on the same page. Honestly I don't think that would hold up in court or even be remotely legal. If you're still making payments on the tools. They might be able to take back what you're making payments on. But I'm not sure. Most mechanics aren't desdbeats. Toolguy usually gets paid first.

That's like someone buying a new Ford F-150 and falling on hard times not being able to make the payment. So ford decides they're going to repress his gt500 he's owned for 20 years to recoup they're money. Just because it says ford on it :lol:

Cars depreciate in value, which is why lease prices are what they are.. that exact scenario is what dictates the price of a lease, or finance payment. The payments made each month are slightly over how much that car depreciates every month, so if you default, they get a car back that's still worth what you owe. Most times when you turn in a lease, you'll actually have equity in that vehicle. That money should goto you, or towards your next car, and many dealers forget to mention that part.. wonder why..

However, If you took out a $60,000 loan, used your gt500 as collateral, (cause they don't just hand out money without knowing how they can recoup the funds BEFORE they approve you for it) blew all the money in vegas over the weekend, lost your job, and went back to back and said - eh, I had a bad weekend, I lost the money, I guess you guys are beat... do ya think you'll be keeping that car you "already paid for"

Here, lemme post some of these to make it look like I know what I'm sayin - :lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol:
 
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