Question about Snap On Talongrip.

[davlac89]

I've got a pair of Snap On Talongrip pliers and I've notice the tips don't touch, the jaw is straight but there is a 1mm gap all along, between the 2 sides. Just wondering if this was normal.

Thx

 

[bob15]

A picture would be nice...........

 

[T45]

The tips should touch, but use the < search > function
this has been talked about IIRC.

 

[rlitman]

IIRC, Talon Grip refers to the soft red vinyl grip handles.
Battery pliers come to mind as an exception where the tips should not touch:

But a picture from the OP would really help things along.

 

[ihateminimumwage]

I bought a set after all the love on here, and had the same issue. Tips had a gap from how the blades closed, and blades were also misaligned height-wise. Ended up returning them (ordered from the Snap-on website), and went with the Channellock E318.

 

[ihateminimumwage]

IIRC, Talon Grip refers to the soft red vinyl grip handles.

But a picture from the OP would really help things along.

https://store.snapon.com/Needle-Nos...-Cutter-and-Fastener-Turning-Jaw-P873228.aspx

 

[Fcvapor05]

Talon Grip refers to the sharp cross-hatch machining on the jaws.

I have several pair, including the exact pair pictured above, and they all touch just on the tip. They can be brought into full contact with hand pressure if need be.

 

[davlac89]

ill take a picture tomorrow, and whats iirc...haha?

 

[Fcvapor05]

'If I Remember Correctly'

 

[Davefr]

If they're needlenose, the tips should close

 

[tjmonsen5]

Only the tips should touch. It's a design feature so that the jaws should squeeze parallel if you grab onto something wider.

 

[T45]

Talon grips are deisgned to GRIP. If you want delicate type electrician, electronics, tardemsans, telephone etc, buy the correct pliers. Once you have flat-plane+ full contact jaws, they will re-curve (bend backwards) once you put anything besides paper between them.

Look at ebay and see all of the ruined (needle type) needle nose pliers...those are the skinny, pointy electrontics pliers.

Most people on GJ are using short-nose pliers of various types just call them "needle nose"....But a true needle nose for genral purpose work is often poor tool ... its too weak for a lot of grabbing tasks that still need a slim headed plier...In any event this is why a talong grip doesn't use those type of jaws.

 

[T45]

Many plier brands design their pliers so the wire cutters touch just before the tips touch so the cutters do a good job cutting wire, it is not necessarily a mistake.

The way they are in the pic above, the tips touch first and then continued pressure will still move the cutters together...

 

[rlitman]

The way they are in the pic above, the tips touch first and then continued pressure will still move the cutters together...

That's how it works with needle nose pliers, like in the picture.
Lineman's pliers are not flexible enough for this, so the cutters meet first, and the jaws never meet.

Not too long back, a friend showed me a pair of Husky needle nose pliers where he complained that the tips didn't meet (these had no cutters). They clearly had been overtaxed, but the easy fix is to open them up, shove something in the back of the jaws (I used a nickel), and force the tips all the way closed. If you use the right size shim, you can bow both jaws together in a parabolic curve such that the tips will meet first, and as you increase pressure, eventually the whole length of the jaws still comes together.

 

[rlitman]

Heat bending always works (I usually use a propane torch), but you don't always want to redo or lose the original heat treatment when modding to a tool so that technique isn't always an option.

Be careful when trying/recommending a brute force technique, because sometimes the jaws will just snap off instead of bending. I've even had one or two junk pliers (that I was trying to repurpose) crack at the hinge joint as well. Not all pliers are made to the same level of hardness/brittleness. Cheap pliers sometimes snap very easily, but more often than not they will bend without too much effort. Some of the highest quality pliers are made very tough. They will often be almost impossibe to bend at all, but if you keep pushing them they will eventually bend or snap. There isn't always a good way to know which outcome will happen though.

If you heat pliers jaws to bend them, then the original heat treatment will be lost, and the pliers will be junk for sure.

As for cold bending. Yes, there is a good possibility of breaking a jaw, and this is positively a job for safety glasses. I was starting with pliers that were junk otherwise anyway. The trick is that there is most often a short plastic region just beyond the elastic region, before the steel fails, and you make the most of this.

So what I did was bend a little, and see if they sprung back all the way. If so, then bend just a little bit more. And keep adding a little bending until they've taken a set in the right position. With good needle nose pliers, they should bend quite a bit, and return to their original shape. If they snap, then they were **** anyway.

In the case of the Husky needle nose pliers I mentioned above, I had to shim the jaws at the back with enough loose change so that they were roughly 5/8" apart with the handles squeezed, and then I brought the tips together. The difference was barely perceptible with the jaws open, but when I removed the coins and closed the jaws, you could slide a couple of playing cards through the jaws with the tips just brought together.

 

[Buster21]

Here are mine. What a joke. Here is the quote directly from snapon's website.

"Jaw tips are perfectly aligned and feature machined teeth for precise gripping strength with positive control"

 

[Davefr]

Here are mine. What a joke. Here is the quote directly from snapon's website.

"Jaw tips are perfectly aligned and feature machined teeth for precise gripping strength with positive control"

Not right, have SO replace them.

 

[tr0n]

mine work nicely. just the tip...just the tips touch.

cross hatch has worn down but still grips better than any other's i've used.

 

[T45]

Here are mine. What a joke.

Only joke here is not having called
to get these replaced by snap-on











Let us know how it goes.

 

[Vvmvbb]

A lot of this is simply the realities of tolerancing. If the cutters are in contact, the tips cannot be, or vice versa. They can only be within a tolerance limit which can't be zero, not even in Japan. Until something flexes, like the tips, to take up the tolerance.
That said, the pic shown is most likely outside SO's normal tolerance those.

 

[garthg]

I have a pair of Talon Grips and think they're great. Mine have grooves cut in the tips so you can hold things like small pins and electrical connectors.