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Question about welding and alternators

Jim Stabe

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I am building an accessory bracket to mount a power steering pump and alternator. I would like to be able to tack the alternator mount detail to the rest of the bracket with the alternator bolted in place. Can I do any harm to the alternator by doing this?
 
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I assume the alt. is unplugged? As long as you aren't grounding through the alternator, I wouldn't worry about it. Especially for just tacking in place.
 
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The alt will be freestanding on the bench pulley down on a piece of MDF. I will ground through the bracket I'm welding to - should be OK
 

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It will be OK as long as you post pics. Without pics, you might end up frying the whole thing.

It's technical, and kind of hard to explain. Just post the pics to be safe.
 
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It will be OK as long as you post pics. Without pics, you might end up frying the whole thing.

It's technical, and kind of hard to explain. Just post the pics to be safe.
Will do

Why not go to an auto elect shop and get a fried alternator to use for your setup ?

Couldn't be that difficult.

Uncle Bob
The alt is a Powermaster smaller body 140 amp so I want to be sure it gets mounted in the correct relationship to the other pulleys

just make sure not to get any welding slag in the alternator.
I'm using TIG so the slag shouldn't be a problem. I just want to get the bracket tacked securely in place then I will take everything off and weld it up.
 

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Short answer : Maybe.

Longer answer : It depends.

If you have the welding current passing -through- the alternator, then yes you will fry things (circuitry, bearings, etc). So don't 'ground' through the alternator itself.

If you for some reason loop the welding cables around or 'across' the alternator, you may induce voltages in the windings of the alternator or the internal circuitry (if the alternator is so equipped). Which may fry things.

If you are running AC or a TIG with high-frequency start, you may induce voltage in the alternator windings or internal circuitry. So as with any use of AC or high-frequency, actually "ground" the alternator to an actual electrical "ground" (not the welding circuit 'ground' aka "work lead").

If you get some slag or weld spatter into the windings (or somehow the bearing, etc), then you can fry or damage things.

Probable damage? Probably not.

Absolutely not damage anything? I couldn't tell.

So the longer answer is maybe and "It depends".

Really cautious approach : Tack the bracket together on the bench or in place without the alternator. Attach alternator and check fit and alignment. Adjust as needed. Then do final welding without alternator and after the bracket cools do final 'inspection' and check fit and alignment.
 
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Jim Stabe

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Really cautious approach : Tack the bracket together on the bench or in place without the alternator. Attach alternator and check fit and alignment. Adjust as needed. Then do final welding without alternator and after the bracket cools do final 'inspection' and check fit and alignment.

That's pretty much what I plan to do except that I need to make the initial tacks with the alternator in place. Your point about the HF start is taken, I'll turn the HF off for the tacks.
 
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