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dynahoe

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i'm going to build a 40x120 steel building...maybe,depends on costs,sprinklers are mandatory town code,no town water. first conversation with engineer suggests 20-30k gallon water storage cistern...i know members here have experience with these systems. question is can a swimming pool be used as water source for the system.the pool would be indoors if needed.the tank the engineer was talking about would be around 50k installed,12 foot diameter by 40 foot long 30k gallons..he said 50k for pump assy. on top of tank,,,roughly 200k for the system...so i was thinking 20x40 indoor pool 4-10 foot deep lots of h2o,blaze master cpvc piping...i think i'm dreaming but 200k really hit me hard thanks for any replies. this project is just starting i'm buying the land in a couple weeks.gonna be my home and auto repair shop.hopefully
 
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KRB52

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Just for discussion, what about an appropriate sized water tower? That will cut out the need for a running pump should the system be needed; just gravity feed. Of course, being up in New Hampshire, you will have to contend with freezing in the winter.
 

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Yes, a swimming pool can be used for water storage in a fire application. There is a blue coded hydrant attached to the pool on the navy base I work at. As long as you have hard suction hose a draft can be achieved to supply a pumper water. A fire suppression system doesn’t care where the water comes from and as long as the pump used can supply enough volume and pressure you should be ok.
 

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Just for discussion, what about an appropriate sized water tower? That will cut out the need for a running pump should the system be needed; just gravity feed. Of course, being up in New Hampshire, you will have to contend with freezing in the winter.

There is no way any reasonable tower will supply the GPM or static pressure needed for a non-residential fire sprinkler system. Residential fire sprinkler systems can and will run off of well water if designed properly.

Tommy
 
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No city water supply but they require sprinklers ? I suppose you'll need a back up generator too for when the power is out to run the fire pump.
 

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"this project is just starting i'm buying the land in a couple weeks"

I'd look elsewhere, a $200k premium to build a water system is a no go in my book...
 
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Not on city water, but required to have sprinklers? That's too much government right there. I'd buy land somewhere else. Especially as you aren't legally committed yet.
Take a good long look at all the other government tentacles at play in the area, before you sign any contracts.
 

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Not on city water, but required to have sprinklers? That's too much government right there. I'd buy land somewhere else. Especially as you aren't legally committed yet.
Take a good long look at all the other government tentacles at play in the area, before you sign any contracts.

+1 Except for septic, I didnt even have to endure an inspection. GD SOB appraisal district has trespassed four times that I know of.
 

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There is water supply in parts of Londonderry (assuming location from your profile), so it might be worth a call to Pennichuck Water to see what's closest. At $200K for what you are talking about, might be an option to pay to hook-up.
 
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dynahoe

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all new construction in the surrounding towns of my current shop require fire suppression,residential or commercial.i'm going to discuss a hydrant off my system to see if that will offset some of the costs,either lower the impact fees or just a contribution from the town.live free or die go nh...insurance costs drop a lot,resale goes up.time will tell. thank you for your input
 

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For those not familiar with your location, $200,000 might be huge money or just pocket change. For instance, if the house sits on 1 acre and is worth less than $500K, then $200K for sprinklers is just insane and I'd move elsewhere. $200K get's you a really nice garage just on it's own. I wouldn't want a garage that's worth $50K with a sprinkler system that costed $200K.
Now if the house sits on a acre that is worth $5,000,000, then that's a whole different story. I guess some perspective is needed.
Brian
 
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