So here is the deal I got a 50% discount for snap-on and well the kit they have for the basic stuff we need is $2000 for when I go out to the field for classes to start doing Auto work. Now your guys opinion should I jump on that or look around and see if I can get a better deal somewhere else? I have a list of all the tools that are needed for the field and when i get time I can type them out. Just wanted to know your opinion. I know snap on is a good tool, just debating if i should look around.
Question for you guys about tools.
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dsmnickk90
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If it had a 50% discount of SnapOn I would be all over it. Your not gonna find better prices on the stuff anywhere else. If you ever switch trade you could sell it all and probably get more back than what you paid upfront.
Farmall450
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Yeah. And, they'll last forever if you take care of them.
I'm not a tradesman of any kind. Just a DIY at home. But, I know a value when I see one. If you can get 50% off of SO, then that's the way to go. As others have mentioned, you can always sell and recoup the cost because of the discount. And the quality of their tools, coupled with the lifetime warranty make them a lifetime investment.
davesnothere
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I would go for it.
d.mcfarland
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It would definately be more convenient to buy them all at once rather than find the deals seperately! Time is money.
sberry
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No. Go to Walmart and get everthing you need for 200$, take the money you may still have in hand and buy anything else you may need when you need it. Buy some brand name deals as you go, vise grip, channelok 430, number 9 hi leverage klein, a few screwdrivers of any kind, replace something if you need to, wait till the next guy cant afford the chrome he rushes off to finance, scoop it any day of the week for 50 cents on the dollar new used, why rush.
dirtydogintex
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Sharpen your pencil, get some paper, run the numbers and don't rush into it!
Why?
I'm hearing of school districts getting 50% off list - 50% off may be the non-retail going rate. I don't know.
I do know much of the SO stuff (new and used) is going for far less than 50% of list on ebay.... then throw fees in....
No doubt all of the 'basic' work can be done w/non-tool truck USA mfg'd tools - tools like CM, Williams, Proto/Blackhawk and other much less expensive tools than even 50% off list SO!
Yes - this is similar to the advise I gave my daughter before she actually drank the koolaide.... which she promptly did, then came to her senses eventually and finally got the weight off of her shoulders!!
Why?
I'm hearing of school districts getting 50% off list - 50% off may be the non-retail going rate. I don't know.
I do know much of the SO stuff (new and used) is going for far less than 50% of list on ebay.... then throw fees in....
No doubt all of the 'basic' work can be done w/non-tool truck USA mfg'd tools - tools like CM, Williams, Proto/Blackhawk and other much less expensive tools than even 50% off list SO!
Yes - this is similar to the advise I gave my daughter before she actually drank the koolaide.... which she promptly did, then came to her senses eventually and finally got the weight off of her shoulders!!
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Buckgnarly
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Certain items are a no brainer at 50% off, but not everything Snap On makes is the best out there.
Some things I feel SO does best are....
FD+ anything
Ratchets
Pitman arm puller
Hard handle (old) screwdrivers
4 way angle head
Punches, chisels, and drill bits for lifetetime warranty, last ones you will ever buy and you WILL wear them out (though Mac has the same lifetime, not sure about Matco)
Some things I feel SO does best are....
FD+ anything
Ratchets
Pitman arm puller
Hard handle (old) screwdrivers
4 way angle head
Punches, chisels, and drill bits for lifetetime warranty, last ones you will ever buy and you WILL wear them out (though Mac has the same lifetime, not sure about Matco)
sberry
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Money is time too, you can work a long time and hours to pump money in to a tool box, the difference here between stuff that works and the top of the line has paid for my shop. Look at all those boxes full of stuff on ebay everyone thinks someone is smoking crack to try to get half what they paid for it. That says it all.
Never see a HF tool box full of Walmart tools on ebay, why I dont know as I have seen people at auction go ape **** over it but the people that buy and use it keep it a long time. I for one am highly unlikely to go round up 50 wrenches that paid for themselves over x 10 and try to get a buck for them. They depreciated and then some at 5%, 10 at 50% of truck retail the original price.
It would be one thing if it didnt work but it does as well proven by some sincere testimoney we see in other threads. If you dont care for Walmart I would march right down to sears and score one of those 299 pc sets, the stuff is ok but the prices are super, absolutely cant be beat, its impossible.
Sears did a lot of thinking when they pieced together that set, there is about 100 pcs over the 10 $ mark in singles, another 75 over 5$ and they didnt fill it with nonsense, got some ratchet wrenches, both flavors of lots of general sockets and wrenches, good hard line stuff and in 20 yrs will still be using 98% of it, the exptensions and one set of sockets would cost the whole purchace price of this.
Its a poster child for who cares about resale, you want her to spend some obscene amount of money in hopes that maybe one day if she decides she doesnt need it maybe try to break even how long down the road or spend 10% today, get what you need right now, throw the rest in the trash, not out only a couple hundred bucks, hell back in the day that was cheaper than a good jag if we starte early in the day, ha
Never see a HF tool box full of Walmart tools on ebay, why I dont know as I have seen people at auction go ape **** over it but the people that buy and use it keep it a long time. I for one am highly unlikely to go round up 50 wrenches that paid for themselves over x 10 and try to get a buck for them. They depreciated and then some at 5%, 10 at 50% of truck retail the original price.
It would be one thing if it didnt work but it does as well proven by some sincere testimoney we see in other threads. If you dont care for Walmart I would march right down to sears and score one of those 299 pc sets, the stuff is ok but the prices are super, absolutely cant be beat, its impossible.
Sears did a lot of thinking when they pieced together that set, there is about 100 pcs over the 10 $ mark in singles, another 75 over 5$ and they didnt fill it with nonsense, got some ratchet wrenches, both flavors of lots of general sockets and wrenches, good hard line stuff and in 20 yrs will still be using 98% of it, the exptensions and one set of sockets would cost the whole purchace price of this.
Its a poster child for who cares about resale, you want her to spend some obscene amount of money in hopes that maybe one day if she decides she doesnt need it maybe try to break even how long down the road or spend 10% today, get what you need right now, throw the rest in the trash, not out only a couple hundred bucks, hell back in the day that was cheaper than a good jag if we starte early in the day, ha
sberry
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She doesnt always need "the best" take a ball joint tool, the HF one I got returned me the 40 in one use and convenience, used it a couple dozen times since and it still works,,, the best may be irrelevent if its too expensive and she isnt into being a front end tech at alinment shop.
As for the best the drill bits I score at the flea mkt from a vendor a dollar to 3/16 and 2 for a 1/4 usa are super, those small ones last so good and are so strained by the time I am done with them just toss them most of the time. Aint no common screw drivers on cars, have used hundreds of screwdrivers we paid a dollar for that worked good.
As for the best the drill bits I score at the flea mkt from a vendor a dollar to 3/16 and 2 for a 1/4 usa are super, those small ones last so good and are so strained by the time I am done with them just toss them most of the time. Aint no common screw drivers on cars, have used hundreds of screwdrivers we paid a dollar for that worked good.
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50% off is a good deal, but $2000 don't get you much tools from Snap On. You can get alot more tools from mid grade brands that allow you to do more work. You can get the same basic set from mid grade brands and save the rest of the money for raining day.
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I'd probably take the truck to harbor freight and load up on tools and a big red box. Whatever breaks replace it with snap on or whatever truck pulls up.
Money does not grow on trees. You will make a certain amount of money in your working life. Think of it like a pie chart. Do you want to look back and see a big section of that pie to be snap on tools?
Money does not grow on trees. You will make a certain amount of money in your working life. Think of it like a pie chart. Do you want to look back and see a big section of that pie to be snap on tools?
Heavy Metal Doctor
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I'm on the fence on this one. I started out cheap - hand carry box full of CM basic hand tools and added some HF stuff to build up a set quickly and get going on a career of wrenching. That worked without running up a big bill. On the other hand, I have ended up replacing all of that stuff except a few items like Channellocks / Vice Grips with SO stuff. Some of the HF **** didn't last 6 months - what good is cheap price if it won't hold up to the task?
I could have bough the SO tools right off and been better off overall.
I could have bough the SO tools right off and been better off overall.
sberry
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I left about 9 last night, a good bud and his bud came to do a clutch main seal job, I asked if they look it up, 6 hrs I guess and it was wet, we st5eamerd it off dried it up took an hour ant they got late start. At 9 they said,,, we had intended on doing this one shot but it didnt look good, I was up at just before 2 and they were pulling out, I figured maybe they gave up but when I came in this morning it was all gone and fairly tidy. I cant think of a single tool that came from the truck, I own a few but they didnt use any. All the hardline stuff they used probably wouldnt have brought 50$ at a flea mkt. Could have been in the thousands of dollars more investment and not made one more cent in fact not only not an asset but a liability over a career.
In fact many of the decent mechanics figured out they didnt need everything they ever invented, every guy in the row got to have a 5K scanner only one in 3 knows how to use anyway. Add to that the general concensus of the workforce that since he is now proud owner of a 900$ wrench pament he is automatically quaified if not gifted.
In fact many of the decent mechanics figured out they didnt need everything they ever invented, every guy in the row got to have a 5K scanner only one in 3 knows how to use anyway. Add to that the general concensus of the workforce that since he is now proud owner of a 900$ wrench pament he is automatically quaified if not gifted.
y20dth
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what is your budget?
dirtydogintex
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Or even better off buying Williams branded SO instead of SO branded SO
after
you figured out what you really use/need??
d.mcfarland
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She is getting it for 50 cents on the dollar, and apparently it has everything she needs. I don't know what all is included, but sounds like a good deal for her, maybe not for others though.
Buckgnarly
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I should have been more clear.... By best I mean no one else makes one like it and it works or saves time and headaches.
And it goes without saying, if you cannot afford it do not buy it. But if you can, and it does make work easier, do it.
NHBandit
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Are you planning to do this for a living ? If so I would go for it. I am retired from 40 years as a mechanic and I still have Snap On stuff that belonged to my dad that he used before I was born. I also have cheap discount store tools that broke the first time I used them. My opinion, and only my opinion, is that Snap On, Mac, Matco, Cornwell, etc. are for professionals. The other stuff is for people who like to tinker with stuff at home in their spare time. Now I know I will get flamed for saying it (Mac is made in China now.. blah blah blah.. etc) but that's my answer to your question and I'm stickin to it. If you're not going to use your tools to make a living I think Craftsman is still the best bang for the buck. Due to their recent move to mostly overseas I can't offer an opinion on the current quality.
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malibu101
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I would like to use your example for my example.
I bought a cheap (not forged) steel tie rod pickle fork at some chineese truck sale many years ago. I used it and didn't know there was anything better until I need a ball joint fork.
For some reason back then I bought a KD forged steel ball joint fork.
I remember buying a forged tie rod fork almost immediatly.
The cheap steel one bent, gouged, got sharp edges, and just wasn't pleasant to use. It still resides with the good ones as a reminder and it was one of the first "specialty" tools I bought when I first got a car.
The forged ones have been beaten on many times since I got them. They are still perfect. I am never sad I paid whatever price for them.
I guess this just goes to show that peoples opinions vary.
Thanks guys! I know the snap-on guy was suppose to show up this week sometime and never did and I only have next week and auto is done and this girl really wanted to buy a set of screwdrivers :-(
No I did think about everything I would be getting and for around $2000 it wasn't a bad deal at all. Than I wouldn't have to worry about anything for a while. I am just kind of iffy about how well the new snap-on tools are made these days than the older ones.
No I did think about everything I would be getting and for around $2000 it wasn't a bad deal at all. Than I wouldn't have to worry about anything for a while. I am just kind of iffy about how well the new snap-on tools are made these days than the older ones.
Buckgnarly
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They are made just fine. Many of those posts are made by guys who will also tell you they walked up hill to school both ways with only newspapers on their feet and their siblings on their backs......
CJCar
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I agree with everyone else. My son is starting the Diesel program at Penn Tech this fall. They have the same deal, all the required tools for the course including a top chest for around $2000. Craftsman at retail price was almost as much.
(edit) Wow! Ten posts from the time I hit reply until I hit submit.
I meant I agree with everyone about going SO.
I've been encouraging my son not to fall in a trap with tool truck debt or brand snobbery. I'm frugal and encourage him to be the same. That said, at least in his case at Penn Tech, the package deal they offer is a no brainer. He will be getting a very nice starter setup of SO for not much more than what Craftsman would cost.
(edit) Wow! Ten posts from the time I hit reply until I hit submit.
I meant I agree with everyone about going SO.
I've been encouraging my son not to fall in a trap with tool truck debt or brand snobbery. I'm frugal and encourage him to be the same. That said, at least in his case at Penn Tech, the package deal they offer is a no brainer. He will be getting a very nice starter setup of SO for not much more than what Craftsman would cost.
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TAMPAGT07
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Many of those posts are made by guys who will also tell you they walked up hill to school both ways with only newspapers on their feet and their siblings on their backs......
And I'll be dammed if if it wasn't snowing every single day...That's what I tell me niece and nephew anyway..
dirtydogintex
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nawwwww - that was my dad and his dad's stories!! *L*They are made just fine. Many of those posts are made by guys who will also tell you they walked up hill to school both ways with only newspapers on their feet and their siblings on their backs......
sberry
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I missed a scoop the other day due to hesitation but that is another story, even stuff that is a "good deal" you might not need. I don't buy ****, don't go to auctions, I pass on that bucket of sockets anymore, know where to score a new piece at 4$ if I need to add something specific,, which tends to be a common trade tool, hammer, vise grip, clamp, channelok,,, which by the way I scored a pair of 12 430 at a flea I was walking thru for 7$, the finish matches the rest of mine but I can "feel" it, I have added a 4 th pair to a general pool that ebbs.
My next big tool investment is a super deal on some cheap 7/16 combo, I should score about a dozen. I could use 6 1/2. Recently grabbed up 4, maybe 6 7/16 USA nut drivers, wish I would have got another half a dozen when I had it in my hand, 6 more at 1$ a piece of a size we use. I would love to find the dollar 5/16 nut driver, about a dozen, I use Menards or Klein's but its 6 or 7$
I can use about any dollar screwdriver if its not worn out, if it is replace it but I stripped a box the other day and found several I don't need as well as some pliers just clogging up the service carts, the stuff migrates to them. Just don't need a bunch of duplicated at hand provided the other carts, trucks have their own etc. I found a bunch of common stuff I am going to "seed" back thru the storage buildings.
Some of that old stuff found in that bargain bucket I like. First its cheap and some of it is good, granted its got a simple molded handle but I never twist if off by hand and they simply use left over stock from a 4$ screwdriver up in many cases ha. I looked the other day out of about 50 screwdrivers several years old I found 2 or 3 that were truly un usable or couldn't do the next job at hand. a couple were ground funny but you could tighten a screw, I think I had so many I tossed a couple but took them out, too much sorting thru **** to get to one I want anyway,,, same for side cutters on some level, a pair of pro USA cutters is trade level, a cheap version may work ok for short time, after a while I find myself migrating to the good tool so I add extra 1 and toss the cheap one.
It also splits the wear rate to some extent between 2 units and allows for sustained operation in the event of breakage or loss.
My next big tool investment is a super deal on some cheap 7/16 combo, I should score about a dozen. I could use 6 1/2. Recently grabbed up 4, maybe 6 7/16 USA nut drivers, wish I would have got another half a dozen when I had it in my hand, 6 more at 1$ a piece of a size we use. I would love to find the dollar 5/16 nut driver, about a dozen, I use Menards or Klein's but its 6 or 7$
I can use about any dollar screwdriver if its not worn out, if it is replace it but I stripped a box the other day and found several I don't need as well as some pliers just clogging up the service carts, the stuff migrates to them. Just don't need a bunch of duplicated at hand provided the other carts, trucks have their own etc. I found a bunch of common stuff I am going to "seed" back thru the storage buildings.
Some of that old stuff found in that bargain bucket I like. First its cheap and some of it is good, granted its got a simple molded handle but I never twist if off by hand and they simply use left over stock from a 4$ screwdriver up in many cases ha. I looked the other day out of about 50 screwdrivers several years old I found 2 or 3 that were truly un usable or couldn't do the next job at hand. a couple were ground funny but you could tighten a screw, I think I had so many I tossed a couple but took them out, too much sorting thru **** to get to one I want anyway,,, same for side cutters on some level, a pair of pro USA cutters is trade level, a cheap version may work ok for short time, after a while I find myself migrating to the good tool so I add extra 1 and toss the cheap one.
It also splits the wear rate to some extent between 2 units and allows for sustained operation in the event of breakage or loss.
MattPersman
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Get the set from snap on go to the office and have then call the guy to make sure you don't miss out on the deal
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I'm going to just say this. Yeah buying cheap tools to start out saves money upfront. But upgrading what breaks along the way is spending more in the long run. If you're going to be doing this for a living cheap tools won't last and you will eventually end up with truck brand or industrial brand tools anyway. Take advantage of the 50% savings while you can and you will never have to upgrade anything.
Just think even if you spend 10k on tools while in school your still not going to be as far in debt as the kid you went away to college for 4 years. You can sell the tools and get some of you money back one day if you change your mind on what you wanna do all your life. If you get a degree in something you don't like later in life and have to go back to school you can't sell you old degree.
Just think even if you spend 10k on tools while in school your still not going to be as far in debt as the kid you went away to college for 4 years. You can sell the tools and get some of you money back one day if you change your mind on what you wanna do all your life. If you get a degree in something you don't like later in life and have to go back to school you can't sell you old degree.
Higgins
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Just a pice of advice from a father who's daughter went thru this same scenario around 5 yrs ago.....
1st. How long will it be, before you are out of school?
As you get closer to graduating, the deals off the trucks get better! They always have deals!!!
2nd. Identify the tools you will need to start work, and compare them against what is in their "Started Package" You may find tools in there that aren't needed.....
3rd. If you've been around cars for a while, you may find that friends or local shops will pass-on some of their original tools. Daughter got a lots of tools that way, most were in good shape, some even new, and were SO, MAC, SK or others of good quality!
4th. At this point in your life, don't spend more on tools than you can afford now! Many a young person did that, and for what ever reason the job offers fell thru or didn't materialize and my daughter bought up some of the tools!
So good luck in your future endeavor!!
1st. How long will it be, before you are out of school?
As you get closer to graduating, the deals off the trucks get better! They always have deals!!!
2nd. Identify the tools you will need to start work, and compare them against what is in their "Started Package" You may find tools in there that aren't needed.....
3rd. If you've been around cars for a while, you may find that friends or local shops will pass-on some of their original tools. Daughter got a lots of tools that way, most were in good shape, some even new, and were SO, MAC, SK or others of good quality!
4th. At this point in your life, don't spend more on tools than you can afford now! Many a young person did that, and for what ever reason the job offers fell thru or didn't materialize and my daughter bought up some of the tools!
So good luck in your future endeavor!!
sberry
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I agree with a couple things, Cman at retail is about as much, it is not a bargain but the start up set is.
I will agree with malibu that not everything works but we can loearn a lot from specific testimony today and the quality of a lot of this has been shooting up. Mix 2 unibits in a box today, a couple greenlee and a couple HF at 2 for 15 dolloars, abouse them and to this day couldnt tell them apart picking one over the other and am dam glad to have an affordable second unit, ask me 20 yrs ago if this was true I would have said no but simple forensics of using hundreds of pieces by dozens of men, maybe ihundreds I cant remember then all, have watched the quality go so hi so fast now you got to look for the absolute cheapest 12 inch crecent for 5$ to find one, no reason to make one anymore when a good one is 10?
I will agree with malibu that not everything works but we can loearn a lot from specific testimony today and the quality of a lot of this has been shooting up. Mix 2 unibits in a box today, a couple greenlee and a couple HF at 2 for 15 dolloars, abouse them and to this day couldnt tell them apart picking one over the other and am dam glad to have an affordable second unit, ask me 20 yrs ago if this was true I would have said no but simple forensics of using hundreds of pieces by dozens of men, maybe ihundreds I cant remember then all, have watched the quality go so hi so fast now you got to look for the absolute cheapest 12 inch crecent for 5$ to find one, no reason to make one anymore when a good one is 10?
sberry
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Today we know,,, the tool doesnt work, you were not out much, you were going to use it imediately in full service the good tool soon made sense for you. If she runs up against a front end need, run down to parts store when you score a part and buy a tool off the rack to go with it,,, I had to do it for a Northstar water pump, the Calvan tool was fine and I havnt used it since.
Personally learn to make about half that stuff, collect a few flea mkt hf level stuff to bend up on the outside occasion I couldnt make something I already had work. Thats the point of being mechanic, if not that then you are a collector.
Personally learn to make about half that stuff, collect a few flea mkt hf level stuff to bend up on the outside occasion I couldnt make something I already had work. Thats the point of being mechanic, if not that then you are a collector.
NHBandit
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Holy **** ! Did you get your keyboard at the flea market too ? It's adding letters all over the place where none belong.. Trying to read this post made my eyes bleed...
NHBandit
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With all due respect alot of what you're saying makes no sense. It's better to buy 20 identical screwdrivers than to buy ONE that will last 20 years ? If you need something you don't have just drop what you're doing and go to the parts store and buy one ? I am assuming from what I've read that you have a shop of some kind that employs a bunch of guys and you supply at least some of their tools ? How does this relate in any way to someone who will be buying their own tools and very possibly using them to make a living for many years to come ? Maybe your time doing all this running around isn't valuable because you're the boss ? I just don't get it at all or see how it relates in any way to her question. Do you keep your tools in 5 gallon buckets you got for free from some guys that do sheetrock too ? I take great pride in my tools. I have owned some of them for 40 years and they still do the job. My toolbox cost me more than my truck and I'm fine with that. No offense to those guys who dissagree. Just how I do my thing.
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sberry
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Higgins,,, people give me stuff all the time, still on occasion someone will drop off a box of stuff, thought you could use it. A couple time guys ent me care packages of stuff they were simply upgraded and they just didnt need all of it anymore. My neighbor gave me a bucket, I sifted thru it for a few USA commons and a while back had an unusual failure, I took a spin and fish out a piece that seemed to be absolutely junk and dam if it didnt work about flawless a 13 x12 pt, I replaced a couple other broke ones we had but left that in the pool, I ran across it the other day, still works, cant even tell the internals been used. If we use it 20 times and it breaks we wouldnt be out a thing but so far so good.
Extensions from old sets seem to survive, mad I have a bunch of that still works great, I bet about half of my 3/8 come in a 5$ set, 30 yrs in a brutal farm shop, must have busted one in my lifetime but cant remember. Anyone think this girl gonna bust an extension she can score for a dollar or 2, even used cman like new at a flea for a buck, why work weeks for a 300 dollar set, anyone she needs could be got for 10$ easy in a brand.
Someday if you need one buy better like the man did with the tie rod tool but a hundred or 2 for an extension set you dont need no matter how much off it is, about like fashion sales etc.
The Sears set is so cheap its disposable, if it works it works if it doesnt fix it, if you dont need it shove the stuff off in the corner or give it away.
Extensions from old sets seem to survive, mad I have a bunch of that still works great, I bet about half of my 3/8 come in a 5$ set, 30 yrs in a brutal farm shop, must have busted one in my lifetime but cant remember. Anyone think this girl gonna bust an extension she can score for a dollar or 2, even used cman like new at a flea for a buck, why work weeks for a 300 dollar set, anyone she needs could be got for 10$ easy in a brand.
Someday if you need one buy better like the man did with the tie rod tool but a hundred or 2 for an extension set you dont need no matter how much off it is, about like fashion sales etc.
The Sears set is so cheap its disposable, if it works it works if it doesnt fix it, if you dont need it shove the stuff off in the corner or give it away.
sberry
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No, what I am saying is in fleet service, trade level experience there are certain tendancies which do not match theory, I can tell you that seeing a pool of cheap screwdrivers beinng forced thru ruff service that there are some survivors, there is some loss, good 40$ screwdriver is subject to theft loss, you have to finance it, insure it etc. It cost 40 times as much and isnt all that much better at most general tasks to warrant this, change an outlet with any scredriver, if I was doing hundreds maybe I find something better etc but you couldnt wear out a cheap screwdriver in general use you were not beating etc.
I buy a new tip number 2 on occasion, hide it for a while, like my flank drives or a tubing wrench, when we need it we need it. But thse guys changing out a clutch needed nothing special, nothing a guy couldnt buy off the shelf in a bit.
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Okay but say you spend $50 on Cman 3/8" extensions you find for cheap and make a complete set. She could use her discount and get a 8pc Snap On set for $125 and never have to worry about it again. If it breaks the truck will come to her. She won't have to go to Sears just to get a junk Chinese replacement
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Buy two sets of craftsman for $100. Save $25.
sberry
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Lets take the drop what you are doing scenerio for the Northstar wrench, How much is the truck version? This one was 40$ and I used it once so far, no one has borrowed it. I didnt stock the water pump either but when I call the store for the pump I have them tack on the 40$ wrench from their shelf,,,, they been storing this for me and deliver with the part, how hard is that? If I took half a day off to drive over there to save 120$ before taxes how much is that worth?
Maybe there is some logic for this assuming she was in the heart of it at the Cadiillac dealership as a powerplant mechanic but general fix it **** I can RxR an engine/****** with that basic Sears set that cost 300$ with 10 times as many tools as it takes, if a guy cant do it with that its really suspect in my mind if buying him a better tool will help.
Maybe there is some logic for this assuming she was in the heart of it at the Cadiillac dealership as a powerplant mechanic but general fix it **** I can RxR an engine/****** with that basic Sears set that cost 300$ with 10 times as many tools as it takes, if a guy cant do it with that its really suspect in my mind if buying him a better tool will help.
AV tinker er
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I think a lot of people go to far into debt when buying tools. I have seen people with up to their eye balls in debt, say owing the 20k to a tool truck while grossing 40k....
Be smart when looking for tools, here is an example of what I mean:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=646407&group_ID=682409&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog is $85 new so you could walk away with it for $40, however, you are not likely going to using them every day and the cheap ones from HF you can get for a dollar. Do you think you will go through 40 sets of them in a working life time?
Other tools you will need quality,, just take a minute to consider the cost.
Keep in mind the financial decisions you make now will have an affect on you when you are 60.
Be smart when looking for tools, here is an example of what I mean:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=646407&group_ID=682409&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog is $85 new so you could walk away with it for $40, however, you are not likely going to using them every day and the cheap ones from HF you can get for a dollar. Do you think you will go through 40 sets of them in a working life time?
Other tools you will need quality,, just take a minute to consider the cost.
Keep in mind the financial decisions you make now will have an affect on you when you are 60.