Question hooking power to disconnect at meter

[Skdrcr23]

I just had a new meter installed at the pole with disconnects. It has a 200amp disconnect for my
house and 4 extra knockouts for extra breakers.
I plan on running Mhf 2 2 2 4 from the meter to
my shop 60ft away. I know the 2 hots will go into
the 90A breaker I'm putting in but my question
concerns the ground and neutral wire. Does anyone
have a pic of what it would look like with the mhf
hooked to the meter?
Here's a pic of it? I can't show inside of it because I
haven't cut tab to access it yet.
Btw I talked to engineer at the power company
and he said it was fine to do when
I'm ready hook wire and breaker up.

 

[pattenp]

I'm surprised you have to cut the security tag to gain access to add a breaker.

 

[Pwrgeek]

Usually there is an access tab for each side separately. That's a new one to me. When you get ready to hook it up the two hots will go to the breaker you add. Both the neutral and the EGC from the MHF will go to the ground bar that may or may not be there. If there is no ground bar then there will be a neutral connection straight through from the service neutral to the neutral going to the house and it will be bonded to the case as well. You need to get a triple tap or a Kearney and connect both the neutral and EGC for the shop feeder to that.


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[Speedy Petey]

I'm surprised you have to cut the security tag to gain access to add a breaker.

I hardly think that is the case. The lower (shown to the right) cover is removable without removing the top/meter cover.

Either way, that is the weirdest meter/main panel I have ever seen.

 

[Skdrcr23]

Ok I was able to get the lower cover off.
here's some pics

 

[pattenp]

The subpanel feeder neutral and ground go to the bar in the first picture that the white and bare wire are connected to. The 2 hots will go to the new double pole breaker.

 

[Skdrcr23]

Thank you for the reply, seems simple enough.
I'm guessing I will have to buy a lug to connect my
ground the same way they did theirs then and then
just connect my neutral at the next slot below the
neutral coming in. Also if I switch the 200amp
disconnect breaker off, will that kill power to
where I install my breaker or will it still be live.
I guess I can always double check it with my
voltmeter

 

[dw1]

Thank you for the reply, seems simple enough.
I'm guessing I will have to buy a lug to connect my
ground the same way they did theirs then and then
just connect my neutral at the next slot below the
neutral coming in. Also if I switch the 200amp
disconnect breaker off, will that kill power to
where I install my breaker or will it still be live.
I guess I can always double check it with my
voltmeter

As PattenP said in above post, pout your neutral and ground on the same bar as the others, you do not need to buy a ground lug, turn the 200 amp CB off and check with your volt meter to be safe and then plug in your new breaker, connect the two hot wires going to your PB to the new breaker.

 

[pattenp]

You have plenty of open holes in the ground bar so you don't need to buy a lug. Also if I read the warning label correctly, turning off the 200A main does not de-energize the additional breaker stabs within that panel. So be careful.

 

[Skdrcr23]

That's how I understood the sticker as well it's kind of funny because the engineer at the power company said that they wouldn't be live if I shut off the breaker.

 

[dave89iroc]

just looking at the wiring, the 200a breaker should kill all the power, but again, use a meter to verify

 

[wyliesdiesels]

just looking at the wiring, the 200a breaker should kill all the power, but again, use a meter to verify

As pattenp pointed out, the main breaker according to the sticker, DOES NOT shut off power to the other breakers.

 

[Stuff]

Side question: Was the existing wiring to the house addressed? A lot of times it needs upsized as it would no longer be carrying the entire load of the service.

 

[Cmreschke]

I agree the breaker does not kill the buss, as what would be the point. It is a main distribution panel with less than 6 handles.

 

[Skdrcr23]

Side question: Was the existing wiring to the house addressed? A lot of times it needs upsized as it would no longer be carrying the entire load of the service.

They ran new wires from the meter to the top of the pole
where it spits off between the neighbors house and mine.
They said I could run 200amp service to the shop if I wanted to so I'm sure everything is good there

 

[FordTruckWench]

Can you remove the inner plate that covers the breakers? It looks like you should be able to loosen two screws, and slide the cover up and then out.

I'm curious where the red wires go - as well as the white wire. I presume that all three come from the meter. But if so, what feeds the four breaker spots? And why do the red wires go to distribution blocks?

 

[Skdrcr23]

Can you remove the inner plate that covers the breakers? It looks like you should be able to loosen two screws, and slide the cover up and then out.

I'm curious where the red wires go - as well as the white wire. I presume that all three come from the meter. But if so, what feeds the four breaker spots? And why do the red wires go to distribution blocks?

yes, I'll remove that plate and post pic later today

 

[Skdrcr23]

here's a look at the diagram as well

 

[pattenp]

Do you only have the 3 wires (red,red,white) going to the house? I assume the bare copper is to ground rod(s). So there doesn't appear to be an EGC to the house main panel.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Thats a very odd main service panel!

 

[Cmreschke]

I'm going out on a limb here, you have a 6 solid going to rods, and no ground going to the sub panel, maybe ground rods to sub panel. Either way something is wrong here in my opinion.

 

[Cmreschke]

Also main does not disconnect the other buss slots for sure.

 

[casetractorfarmer]

Can u post a photo of the inside of the house panel if possible

 

[Skdrcr23]

here ya go

 

[wyliesdiesels]

here ya go

Why does this panel look familiar? Did u have another thread?

The GE breaker need to be changed for bryant(if u can find them) or Eaton BR.

 

[Skdrcr23]

yes I had another thread. I know it definately needs
to be cleaned up