thought I had ask before but can't find it so here goes: 17'wx23'Lx12'H, which would be stronger during storms in west texas which could, but not common reach wind speeds of 60-70 mph most likely in gust. also which is cheaper if inside is left unfinished for me to do..spray foam for metal or insulation like theromtex(?) or insulation without drywall for stick build....another option is wood frame with metal outside...there will be door 9 or 10 foot wide by 7 foot tall and one man door....your opinions please...thanks.
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questions on stick vs metal build
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Ryf
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this is a loaded question, I would say an all metal building would have longer lifespan, assuming not a carport. wood frame would be easier to insulate, traditional wiring setups etc play a huge part in the benefits, IMO there are alot of benefits of both, I went with a carport type building for the benefit of time and price. I will battle the insulation and and wiring problems to get a shell up.
I often "feel" like stick buildings are tighter, as in less wind noise and panel echos etc. I think its mostly due to the close studs the panels are tied to if they are metal, and its hard surface on softer so it will deaden alot of noises. I use my building as a metal fab shop, open insulation scares the **** out of me, so I would recommend some kind of panels depending on usage. some foam panel insulations are flammable and toxic when burning, so know before you buy because depending on usage it would best be covered.. good luck with your choices!
I often "feel" like stick buildings are tighter, as in less wind noise and panel echos etc. I think its mostly due to the close studs the panels are tied to if they are metal, and its hard surface on softer so it will deaden alot of noises. I use my building as a metal fab shop, open insulation scares the **** out of me, so I would recommend some kind of panels depending on usage. some foam panel insulations are flammable and toxic when burning, so know before you buy because depending on usage it would best be covered.. good luck with your choices!
Nowater
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My shop in southwest Florida is made from structural panels and was erected in less than a week once the foundation was done. The people who invented the system said they tested in 210 mph winds, at which point the walls "tilted in about an inch where they met the roof."
It is very airtight, so climate controls are reasonable, and was already insulated. It doubles as my hurricane shelter, as the weak points are the 130 mph windows!
If you are worried about high winds, I suggest you check them out.
It is very airtight, so climate controls are reasonable, and was already insulated. It doubles as my hurricane shelter, as the weak points are the 130 mph windows!
If you are worried about high winds, I suggest you check them out.
Herb67SS
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Either would need to be built properly to stand up to the conditions. Theoretically, that's what local codes are about. So from a structural perspective, either could be poorly or properly built and last as along as the other.
From a cost perspective, pole construction is usually cheaper to build due to the lack of footers and/or a foundation. Other than that, if you were to stud out the interior of a metal pole building and drywall/finish it, the costs are pretty much the same. With the pole built structure, the studs are non-load bearing but help stiffen the entire structure. BTW - the cost of spray foam insulation here in NoVA is more than double the cost of fiberglass batts, for a lower R value. I had fiberglass R13 in the walls and R30 in the ceiling for $1200, installed. Foam would have been closer to $3K.
My new 28x36 detached garage was pole-built. It has an 8x10 and 8x16 overhead door plus a man door and 4 windows. If I didn't tell you it was pole-built, and you didn't know what to look for, you wouldn't know it.
From a cost perspective, pole construction is usually cheaper to build due to the lack of footers and/or a foundation. Other than that, if you were to stud out the interior of a metal pole building and drywall/finish it, the costs are pretty much the same. With the pole built structure, the studs are non-load bearing but help stiffen the entire structure. BTW - the cost of spray foam insulation here in NoVA is more than double the cost of fiberglass batts, for a lower R value. I had fiberglass R13 in the walls and R30 in the ceiling for $1200, installed. Foam would have been closer to $3K.
My new 28x36 detached garage was pole-built. It has an 8x10 and 8x16 overhead door plus a man door and 4 windows. If I didn't tell you it was pole-built, and you didn't know what to look for, you wouldn't know it.
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5lima30
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I've had both. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I now have a stick built w/ a metal roof. Having said that, I prefer a stick built, MUCH easier to insulate, heat, quieter, more comfortable (both summer & winter). I also believe that a properly constructed stick built can be just as resistant to winds, storms, etc. JMHO.
Cyberbear
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In my experience, stick built has definite advantages over a sheet metal structure. Ever wonder why you seldom see a home made of metal? Metal buildings are for utilitarian uses most of the time, and do have a few advantages.
When you consider all the disadvantages of a metal building, and the cost of over coming them, stick built is always the best option.
When you consider all the disadvantages of a metal building, and the cost of over coming them, stick built is always the best option.
DpSyChO
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I take it you either dont like block buildings or have not thought about it?
Busted_Knuckles
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I live in tornado alley, and a very windy area the rest of the year. I have two steel span buildings, and several wood framed/wood trussed. They are all still standing after 3 decades.
One of the steel spans had the whole eastern 1/3rd was ripped off clean, during a strom. Frame was still there and undamaged, but the doors on one end, tin on the end walls, and 25' the lid was GONE !
In hindsight, looking at the way they are built, the steel structure tin, does not seem to get as many fasteners as the wood framed buildings do/did.
This building took a hit, due to is location on the property, placement of other structures (venturi effect), wind direction, and wind speed. Although I belive if it had been a wood framed, it still would have lost the door, and the lid, walls may have fared a little better, but that is pure speculation on my behalf.
Id say its a toss up. The wood is friendlier to work with, if your going to finish it out.
One of the steel spans had the whole eastern 1/3rd was ripped off clean, during a strom. Frame was still there and undamaged, but the doors on one end, tin on the end walls, and 25' the lid was GONE !
In hindsight, looking at the way they are built, the steel structure tin, does not seem to get as many fasteners as the wood framed buildings do/did.
This building took a hit, due to is location on the property, placement of other structures (venturi effect), wind direction, and wind speed. Although I belive if it had been a wood framed, it still would have lost the door, and the lid, walls may have fared a little better, but that is pure speculation on my behalf.
Id say its a toss up. The wood is friendlier to work with, if your going to finish it out.