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freebo86

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Looking to see what you all recommend fit silencing the unit down some? Putting it outside is not an option.

The unit is oiled in fact and currently in the corner of the garage. Due to the limited space available I sort of have it snugged inside my shelving unit.
 
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Rubber mounts in-between all of the components (Motor, Tank, Compressor) also a lot of noise comes from poorly design intake ( Search intake silencers, quiet compressor ) there tons of info... I would start there as those are easy and can make a big difference. if thats enough then stop there, if not build and enclosure for it...
 
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Any benefit to putting insulation against the 2 walls in the corner where it is, would that prevent some sound from bouncing back?

Hesitant to build an enclosure as space is tight where it is as is plus then I'd have to worry about heat as well...
 

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What kind of compressor ? Picture ? I have found that the majority of the noise is from the air intake. I made a muffler for the one at my shop and I bet it cut the noise in half. Mine was easy because it had an air filter and it was easy to adapt a muffler.
 
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freebo86

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I've been looking at the intake myself. Here is some pictures of the unit, appears it takes a 1/2" screw on air filter at the intake I've removed it to investigate.

Also there is some rubber pads on it now at the bottom, the other part is wheels.

Where it site is pretty crammed as I got a generator right next to it so building an enclosure there would be tight.

See the pics of the units assembly and intake that's on it now. Please share some pics or info on this muffler you've created!








 

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Rubber mat on the floor. Hang a few layers of carpet on the corner walls to cut down on the echo. Possible build a curtain of carpet as well to further absorb noise. Hit up a car stereo shop or amazon for Dynamat or other adhesive backed sound deadening material and apply to tank. Build a baffle for the intake as mentioned. Turn up shop radio
 
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Rubber mat on the floor. Hang a few layers of carpet on the corner walls to cut down on the echo. Possible build a curtain of carpet as well to further absorb noise. Hit up a car stereo shop or amazon for Dynamat or other adhesive backed sound deadening material and apply to tank. Build a baffle for the intake as mentioned. Turn up shop radio

Any info on this baffle type of deal? What exactly is one to buil?
 

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You could list that unit on Craigslist and buy yourself a new belt drive that would be much quieter. Just a thought



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Can you plumb your intake outside? Those little guys run hot. I don't know how I would feel about building an enclosure without forced ventilation.


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freebo86

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Well the left wall is the front facing wall of the garage so it would look some ugly with a hole there.

I just don't find the need to spend money money now on a bigger compressor if I can quiet this one down some id be fine with it. If I can see what you guys are referring to as these muffler type of ordeals I'd give that a try
 

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The biggest improvement you could possibly do and leave it indoors is pipe the inlet to outdoors.

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freebo86

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Could you get a more close up pics of your compressor so we can tell more about it? Kidding of course. Looks like you have a direct drive type compressor. Those things, for some reason, are really loud. You could make a semi enclosure just around the motor/pump area that will absorb some of the noise and still let enough air to the unit.

LOL close ups were to show if there is anything that can be done between the mounts for engine etc to help reduce noise.
 

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Direct drive versus belt is not the issue. My compressor is quieter than any belt drive I have heard. That is 27 cfm of compressor. There is a huge difference between oiled and oil less.


 
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The little intake silencers by solberg things looks exactly kind of what I already have on mine? As shown on that link a couple of posts up - the guy basically ha the same thing as me and instead it being screwed straight into the intake side it just has a 90deg elbow and then the solberg silencer or muffler whatever it is.

Not sure what the difference is in these solberg things? Also, my unit is oiled as well
 
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The little intake silencers by solberg things looks exactly kind of what I already have on mine? As shown on that link a couple of posts up - the guy basically ha the same thing as me and instead it being screwed straight into the intake side it just has a 90deg elbow and then the solberg silencer or muffler whatever it is.

Not sure what the difference is in these solberg things? Also, my unit is oiled as well

Solberg units are muffler AND filter in one unit. Yours is just a filter in a plastic enclosure.
I've mentioned this in a few other threads- and others have mentioned the same thing here- your best chance at reducing the dB's within your garage is to plumb the intake to the exterior and use a Solberg silencer/filter. It's better to plumb it up high so it's under the eve/soffit where it will stay dry and not be damaged.
 
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I've been told that a muffler built for central vacum systems works well to reduce intake noise. Has anyone tried this?

Also - something I learnt from my build. A box/enclosure for your compressor isn't worth it. Once you enclose and insulate you'll quickly learn that your compressor generates a lot of heat that needs to be removed. Vents get added, sound escapes through them - it doesn't work as well as you'd think.
 

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I have an attached garage and put the compressor in the basement shop and plumbed it through the rim joist...
It's mounted on rubber so it's not too bad in the house.....
Only when it starts up at 2 in the morning is it an issue
 

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Direct drive versus belt is not the issue. My compressor is quieter than any belt drive I have heard. That is 27 cfm of compressor. There is a huge difference between oiled and oil less.



Your compressor appears to be an atlas copo? We use a similar, but oil less version on our 2000-7000hp gen sets to start them if the customer wants air start. The are just as Quiet as the oil type as a small percentage spec them. There are some belt compressors that are quieter by a good amount. But there are four major reasons your compressor is quieter.

1. I would bet the motor is either 1500 or 1800 rpm? Is it three phase as well?
The non industrial direct drives such as the op has is 3600 rpm. Slower turning makes compressors much quieter. The belt drives that are very quiet use a 1800 rpm motor and the belt reduction is to 650 rpm at the pump.

2. It's industrial and made heavier and with better engineering. This dampens sound that is generated

3. Atlas copo does have one of the best intake filter/silencer I have seen in the industry.

4. I think you compressor is pressure lubed but even if it is not the bearings are of much higher tolerance which helps with noise. Cheap compressors use huge tolerances do to crappy machinery/machinist so the won't lock up. Tight tolerances allow smaller clearances which in turn allows better dampening by the oil film and therefore less pounding.
 
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Is 5db a big difference?

I saw these little lawn mower mufflers at the store, $5 might put it on and see if it makes a difference it has a 1/2" thread on it as well so it would be straight screw on no messing around.
 

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Is 5db a big difference?

I saw these little lawn mower mufflers at the store, $5 might put it on and see if it makes a difference it has a 1/2" thread on it as well so it would be straight screw on no messing around.

5 dB is quite a big difference. Decibels are a logarithmic measuring scale, so each decibel less means much less sound being generated.
 

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Your compressor appears to be an atlas copo? We use a similar, but oil less version on our 2000-7000hp gen sets to start them if the customer wants air start. The are just as Quiet as the oil type as a small percentage spec them. There are some belt compressors that are quieter by a good amount. But there are four major reasons your compressor is quieter.

1. I would bet the motor is either 1500 or 1800 rpm? Is it three phase as well?
The non industrial direct drives such as the op has is 3600 rpm. Slower turning makes compressors much quieter. The belt drives that are very quiet use a 1800 rpm motor and the belt reduction is to 650 rpm at the pump.

2. It's industrial and made heavier and with better engineering. This dampens sound that is generated

3. Atlas copo does have one of the best intake filter/silencer I have seen in the industry.

4. I think you compressor is pressure lubed but even if it is not the bearings are of much higher tolerance which helps with noise. Cheap compressors use huge tolerances do to crappy machinery/machinist so the won't lock up. Tight tolerances allow smaller clearances
which in turn allows better dampening by the oil film and therefore less pounding.

It is an Atlas-Copco. I believe it is 1800 rpm motor and for sure single phase. I am not sure if it is pressure oiled. In comparison to most home belt driven compressors, this one is pretty quiet. I agree it is a quality industrial model versus a less well built home owners model.
 
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freebo86

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Interesting I might have to give those a try. Anyone fab their own to prevent from
spending more money
 

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There's a few videos with folks that have quieted down their smaller compressors with enclosures that are fed intake air and have exhaust space, too.

With mine being an 80 gal 5hp upright, I am considering hanging an acoustic curtain.
 
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freebo86

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Would putting on a muffler from lawn mower help?


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You seem rather resistant to trying the suggestions here, so might as well just do what you wanted to do in the first place. Try the lawnmower muffler thing. Make sure you paint it black.
 
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freebo86

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I tried that, and it didn't work for me. The Solberg did however, and it's worth the money IMO.

Yah I think I'll give it a try. Where you guys order these from? I checked the site and it's like a minimum quantity purchase type of thing..

You seem rather resistant to trying the suggestions here, so might as well just do what you wanted to do in the first place. Try the lawnmower muffler thing. Make sure you paint it black.

I was going to do fire red, hoping it makes it faster too?

But no seriously, I'm going to give this silencer a try.
 
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Any benefit to the height size difference? I see two on amazon one is 4-1/8" outlet while the other is 3-13/16"

Also, how does one determine the size he needs to make an actual difference?
 
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