Quincy QT compressor

[shamrock12]

I've been noticing a trend with Quincy switching over to Weg motors on some of their compressors. For those that have not heard of Weg ... they are an industrial motor manufacturer which is an import from Brazil. I've seen them in person and they do not appear as nice looking or well made as the Baldor, which is a well known domestic (USA) industrial motor manufacturer. I just find it hard to believe that Quincy would slap on an imported major component on their supposedly USA made compressors.

I was ready to purchase one of their QT compressor but refuses to do so until I could get one with the Baldor motor. Their customer service was less than helpful as they said Quincy are using both Baldor and Weg, whichever they have on hand. They would not even tell me which brand they are currently using on their production line, so I couldn't time my order for a Baldor. What kind of service is that from Quincy?? I couldn't believe that they would expect their customers to shell out several thousands of dollars without knowing exactly what they would be getting. In my book, this is a bad business practice to leave their customers out in the dark.

Needless to say, this is a big thumb-down for Quincy! They really ought to at least offer an option for their customer to specify which motor they want on their compressors.

 

[Skin]

WEG has had that motor plant in Brazil for decades. They're quality units.

 

[TwoInch]

i have heard nothing but good things about WEG motors. was also just looking at WEG equipped Quincys about an hour ago. i wouldnt hesitate for a WEG or Baldor model personally. the place i was at had both.

 

[kenfain]

When customer service won't truthfully answer a direct and clear question. In my experience, that's an answer all in itself.

 

[shamrock12]

I'm sure WEG is a quality motor to some extent; however, the concern here is the motor Quincy are using & where they came from. I am pro-USA and would rather keep the money here and support the US workers & their families. It really bother me when an US manufacturer install imported major components on their product and then slap on the "Made in USA" sticker. I think that is just wrong. It is not a matter of which one is a better motor ... the point is I want an USA made compressor with an USA made motor on it, and that would be Quincy and Baldor. I know Quincy pumps are casted in China but they are machined right here in the US which is fine with me. The tolerances are usually tighter here in the US which is what makes a quality unit.

 

[kenfain]

Same here! That's why I bought a vintage Curtis, absolutely love it. Highly recommended. You like Quincy, cool, get one a little older. Wouldn't have to be that old either. Everyone seems to feel the same way,who's tried that route. They are super easy to understand, and rebuild if need be. Usually still saving money. Plus you got old school engineering.

 

[71goldss]

I've had my QT-54 for about a year and a half now. My only complaint, and I've documented here on GJ, is that the Baldor motor on my model is extremely loud! It's louder than the pump itself, with no way to quiet without building a room around it. If that WEG is quieter, I'd say it's an improvement! Not bashing Baldor, and I'm proud to have a quality USA motor on mine, but damn it's loud!!!

This is not my video, but it is my model and it sounds exactly the same. That loud whine is the Baldor motor.

 

[PT Doc]

What size Quincy were you looking at? I believe the 80/2/5hp unit still uses a nice slow rpm Baldor.

 

[HotRodMan]

I bought a 7.5 hp 80 gallon Quincy Compressor with the Weg electric motor about 6 months ago and I can tell you it is a quality product. This compressor makes much less noise than my old 3 horse 60 gallon unit because it operates at a lower rpm. No complaints at all with my Quincy Compressor.

 

[B-Well]

I bought a 7.5 hp 80 gallon Quincy Compressor with the Weg electric motor about 6 months ago and I can tell you it is a quality product. This compressor makes much less noise than my old 3 horse 60 gallon unit because it operates at a lower rpm. No complaints at all with my Quincy Compressor.

are you running 7.5hp on 220v 1p? 40amps is pretty gnarly pull just for a compressor

 

[TwoInch]

I'm sure WEG is a quality motor to some extent; however, the concern here is the motor Quincy are using & where they came from. I am pro-USA and would rather keep the money here and support the US workers & their families. It really bother me when an US manufacturer install imported major components on their product and then slap on the "Made in USA" sticker. I think that is just wrong. It is not a matter of which one is a better motor ... the point is I want an USA made compressor with an USA made motor on it, and that would be Quincy and Baldor. I know Quincy pumps are casted in China but they are machined right here in the US which is fine with me. The tolerances are usually tighter here in the US which is what makes a quality unit.

you are cool with chinese castings on a "US made" pump, but not a high quality brazil motor? you can draw the line wherever you see fit., but you would be extremely hard pressed to find a truly "USA made" compressor unit. they all are partially imported...

im all for US made, and i try my damnedest to buy US when it makes sense. but quality is quality, and if a brazil makes a fine motor, ill buy it just as i buy german pliers over US made sometimes. buying from a civilized country is not all bad in my book.

 

[jake00]

I've got a wood molder with 6 weg motors on it from 5hp to 30hp Haven't had any issues in 10 years.

I understand the American thing, but they're far from HF

 

[TwoInch]

from what i saw, it seems the smaller compressors were running the WEGs, and the bag boss compressors were baldors. might have been a coincidental stock thing at the retailer. not sure.

quincy has been using WEG for a few years, four or so atleast.

 

[TwoInch]

i was also thinking, its possible they are using the WEGs on the lower end splash lube compressors, like the one you are looking at. those compressors are meant to compete with the big box type stuff more so than the big dogs. possibly to reduce cost slightly to compete.

 

[shamrock12]

When I say "fine" it means like "it's all right with me but I am not thrilled about it." I would rather buy a product that has been casted oversea but machined and assembled in the USA than a product that has been made entirely outside the US with exemption of a few countries like Germany, etc.

I've been told that Quincy has been using whatever motor they have in their inventory. This mean one day they could be installing Baldor motors and then next day the WEG motors. There is no consistency in their production line, or at least that was my understanding from their customer service rep. Why should it be ok for some customers to receive their compressors with Baldor motor while some others are expected to accept the WEGs? It doesn't make sense at all to me.

Last winter I was looking at one of their compressor in a store and it had a Baldor motor. I had planned to purchase it sometime this summer and now the time is here, so I went back, only to see that the same model I looked at has a WEG motor on it.

 

[PT Doc]

I've been told that Quincy has been using whatever motor they have in their inventory. This mean one day they could be installing Baldor motors and then next day the WEG motors. There is no consistency in their production line, or at least that was my understanding from their customer service rep. Why should it be ok for some customers to receive their compressors with Baldor motor while some others are expected to accept the WEGs? It doesn't make sense at all to me.

I don't think this is the case. The local farm supply store has consistently had Weg on the 7.5/2/80 and Baldor on the 5/2/80 units.

 

[Grounded Ken]

I just replaced a QT 10, with guess what? An Atlas AR 10. The old style QT 10 with the two pc. head is gone, replaced with the Atlas Copco designed pump. And I can assure you it was not made in this counrty. Atlas Copco is assimilating Quincy. Look at the Atlas pumps, you will find the Quincy QR pumps at the top end of their recip. line, just painted grey. Quincy is a changing.

 

[TwoInch]

Why should it be ok for some customers to receive their compressors with Baldor motor while some others are expected to accept the WEGs? It doesn't make sense at all to me.

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probably because they are both top of the line motors.... interchangeable quality, and obviously very similarly priced or they wouldnt be going back and forth.

you are assuming the baldor id a superior unit, and that people must accept a WEG... like i said, quality is quality, those WEGS may be better in reality, who knows.

 

[shamrock12]

Once again, this thread is not about which one is a better motor. My point is that Baldor is an USA made motor and should belong on all of Quincy's USA made compressors. If Quincy put imported motor on their compressor then the "Made in USA" sticker do not belong anywhere on the compressor nor should it be advertised as made in the USA. It's simple as that. I don't give a damn what the FTC rules are, because I believe it allows the manufacturers to become deceiving to their customers. I consider the motor to be a major component of a compressor unit, so if the manufacturer state their product as made in the USA then the motor might damn as well be made here in the USA too! Not to mention that I'd like to keep the money circling inside this country!

 

[fflintstone]

Once again, this thread is not about which one is a better motor. My point is that Baldor is an USA made motor and should belong on all of Quincy's USA made compressors. If Quincy put imported motor on their compressor then the "Made in USA" sticker do not belong anywhere on the compressor nor should it be advertised as made in the USA. It's simple as that. I don't give a damn what the FTC rules are, because I believe it allows the manufacturers to become deceiving to their customers. I consider the motor to be a major component of a compressor unit, so if the manufacturer state their product as made in the USA then the motor might damn as well be made here in the USA too! Not to mention that I'd like to keep the money circling inside this country!

I am total on board with you wanting a Baldor motor on your Quincy. I would also.

But your argument about where the money goes is faulty. It does not “stay here” regardless of what you buy.

Money goes everywhere in the current global economy and that won’t change.

 

[Joe B.]

Do you guys know that Baldor was acquired by ABB Group about a year ago or so? I hope you boys like holes in your cheese because that will be all you can get when they take over.

 

[CJKaz]

WEG is a quality supplier. Recently went through a vendor qualification audit for a large oil refining company. WEG was approved along with a small group of other suppliers. Baldor is not approved. Their merger with Reliance makes this a bit tricky. Only the Reliance designs are approved for use on our equipment.

I agree 100% with keeping the work here in the USA. Our specs always required USA vendors, but that has unfortunately become very difficult in some cases. A recent purchase of a 30,000 HP electric motor went to General Electric, but it was built in Canada. Coincidentally, it was for an air compressor (Switzerland), albeit a bit bigger than the ones being discussed here.

 

[EOC_Jason]

Have you tried contacting your local / regional Quincy dealer? I live in Houston and when I called them up they were extremely helpful and willing to do whatever it took. I'm sure if I asked them for a Quincy with a Baldor on it they would make it happen...

Also have you checked your local Northern Tool? Usually they stock Quincy models on the floor and you can just pick out which one you want.

I've got a buddy with two compressors that have WEG 15HP TEFC motors on them, both run great.

 

[Krokodil]

I'm not helping your pro-USA case, but WEG makes excellent motors. Used all over the world in industrial applications.

 

[All]

The strongest duty, highest rated, heaviest built single phase electric motor I've ever owned is the all cast iron WEG that came as original equipment on my Ingersoll Rand 7.5HP 80 Gallon T30 spinning a Made in USA two stage V style pump. The compressor was manufactured over a decade ago.

I still agree with the sentiment of the OP though. The point isn't so much where the money goes globally... it's where that job right down the street went.

Because somewhere down the street is a home without an income, occupied by plain folks who grew up without the means, materially and/or mentally, for a graduate degree in software engineering. But they could put in a long hard day's work with their hands. And those hands are now idle. Those hands are now holding cups and cardboard signs. Those hands are now seeking five finger discounts at the five and dime just to keep baby formula in the cupboard. Those hands might be holding a gun one day, to their head for relief from misery, or to our heads to relieve us of our wallets.

Those jobs are important to support because the fabric of our society needs blue collar skilled labor gainfully employed and happily able to support themselves in a modest existence. So regardless of what country boardroom fatcats stash their profits in to evade paying taxes so they can support extravagant expenses like another new foreign built luxury car to keep on hand in their third vacation home where they spend their tourist dollars in yet another country's economy in this so called "global reality", the fact remains is that the neighbor down the street needs a job, so we all can live in peace.

That's part of what buying Made in USA is about.

 

[shamrock12]

Very well said, "All"

 

[jomobco]

When customer service won't truthfully answer a direct and clear question. In my experience, that's an answer all in itself.

They likely don't know the answer. I doubt they're privy to production schedules and timing. And if both products are made to the same specs many companies interpret that both products are equal. Sometimes I don't know means exactly that.

 

[Braden Wulf]

DO NOT BUY A QUINCY COMPRESSOR!!!! They do not honor their warranty. Furthermore, do not buy from Northern Tool, they will give you the run around. My Baldor motor died after the first year, Northern Tool warranty is 24/24 but Quincy says 1 year unless you keep buying oil, every year! ( I bought the 5 year for the pump !) True blue my ***, American way is to screw the little guy, buy china, at least it will last.